Official 2009-2010 Miami season thread part II: Unfinished Business

[mcfarljd]

Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami season thread part II: Unfinished Business

Eh could go on about the game, let's just put it this way. Sucks to be #2 now, but that can still easily be flipped back. Denver/Tech should be 5-4 right now but the refs blew it.

No more pink laces.

I agree that this is a good loss. Get the boys to focus again and play smart fundamental puck instead of trying to do anything too fancy or cute. We do need a sweep next weekend though of OSU if we want to get that #1 spot back.

UNO converted their chances, we had some bad turnovers (Mantha on the 1st goal...), we couldn't convert and kept hittin the post. Oh well. 5 losses in 34 games isn't too shabby.

 

[redhawkman10]

Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami season thread part II: Unfinished Business

Eh could go on about the game, let's just put it this way. Sucks to be #2 now, but that can still easily be flipped back. Denver/Tech should be 5-4 right now but the refs blew it.

No more pink laces.

I agree that this is a good loss. Get the boys to focus again and play smart fundamental puck instead of trying to do anything too fancy or cute. We do need a sweep next weekend though of OSU if we want to get that #1 spot back.

UNO converted their chances, we had some bad turnovers (Mantha on the 1st goal...), we couldn't convert and kept hittin the post. Oh well. 5 losses in 34 games isn't too shabby.

And I picked up 2 points on you in CCCP

 

[redhawkman10]

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Boys take a look at the pairwise rankings. For being such a poor league like some have said we currently have 4 teams in the tourny after tonights play. Alaska has played there way into the tourny and moved up to #11, MSU is at #10, and Ferris is at #13. UNO for not being very good has moved up to #19 and knocking on the door of an at large bid. UNO has a chance against Bemidji to make a big move next weekend and wouldn't surprise me with as well as they are playing right now. Things will definantly get interesting as the 4 seed in conference is a cluster * right now.

 

[redhawk95]

Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami season thread part II: Unfinished Business

I believe this evening's result can be attributed to 2 things:

1) The bright pink laces.

2) The wrath of the woofing gods.

That is all I have to say...

Amen! And, pray to the hockey and woofing gods that their wrath has been satisfied! And, that those who transgress against them have repented for their over-exuberant sins!

Say Hallelujah and beat Ohio State!

 

[redeagle]

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Miami lost all phases last night, pp, pk, even strength, goaltending, and were outworked. The last two games I have seen, BG Friday and last night, MU sure has had a lot of breakdowns. A bit worrisome. Friday should be interesting. I have not looked, but if UNO plays BSU next week, that might also be big for MU's COP with BSU. Don't want to lose that comparison. (I am trying to set the acronym record. )

 

[porch-n-suds]

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The only reason the CCHA has not been considered one of the top leagues this year is because the all glorious teams from Michigan and Notre Dame didn't live up to their pre-seaon potential. (lol) Therfore, how could it possibly be a good league. JMO. The CCHA has had no less than 3 teams in the tourney the last 6 or 7 years running. All of a sudden they are looked upon as weak? I don't get it.

 

[MUhawks628]

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Miami lost all phases last night, pp, pk, even strength, goaltending, and were outworked. The last two games I have seen, BG Friday and last night, MU sure has had a lot of breakdowns. A bit worrisome. Friday should be interesting. I have not looked, but if UNO plays BSU next week, that might also be big for MU's COP with BSU. Don't want to lose that comparison. (I am trying to set the acronym record. )

Just had to a throw a TUC or two in there and you would have had it for sure

 

[mcfarljd]

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Miami lost all phases last night, pp, pk, even strength, goaltending, and were outworked. The last two games I have seen, BG Friday and last night, MU sure has had a lot of breakdowns. A bit worrisome. Friday should be interesting. I have not looked, but if UNO plays BSU next week, that might also be big for MU's COP with BSU. Don't want to lose that comparison. (I am trying to set the acronym record. )

We need Bemidji to beat UNO so that UNO isn't a TUC anymore. If we get the Mavs under 25, then we will tie that part of the comparison with Denver again. If we go 2-0 this weekend against OSU then we'll keep the CoP comparison also. If we get a win and a tie then we will be tied in the CoP and not sure what they do then.

Bemidji's CoP win % can only get to .69 after this weekend (pending if they face RMU in their conference playoffs), which if they faced them and beat them it would be... .71. That is the max their number can be at the end of the season.
Our number is currently .75, so long as get a win and a tie this weekend against OSU then we'll seal that one (pending no future losses in the tourney to NMU/UNO/OSU).

In short. Go Miami sweep. Go Bemidji sweep. Go whomever Denver is playing... @ Mankato. Ehhh, at least they are decent at home.

Oh, and this is the week I think we go only Reich personally, this is a playoff atmosphere against OSU and these wins are important.

 

[redhawkman10]

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The only reason the CCHA has not been considered one of the top leagues this year is because the all glorious teams from Michigan and Notre Dame didn't live up to their pre-seaon potential. (lol) Therfore, how could it possibly be a good league. JMO. The CCHA has had no less than 3 teams in the tourney the last 6 or 7 years running. All of a sudden they are looked upon as weak? I don't get it.

When you look deep into it the conference isn't weak. The traditional names aren't there and the teams that are haven't had long term success so people are having a hard time trying to figure them out. Alaska is for real and its good to see them getting paid off for what they have done. UNO is solid as we saw and NMU is one of the hottest teams in the country right now. It will all work itself out, I think the CCHA will get a min of 3 if not 4 teams in the tourny with the number of teams knocking on the door right now.

 

[redhawkman10]

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We need Bemidji to beat UNO so that UNO isn't a TUC anymore. If we get the Mavs under 25, then we will tie that part of the comparison with Denver again. If we go 2-0 this weekend against OSU then we'll keep the CoP comparison also. If we get a win and a tie then we will be tied in the CoP and not sure what they do then.

Bemidji's CoP win % can only get to .69 after this weekend (pending if they face RMU in their conference playoffs), which if they faced them and beat them it would be... .71. That is the max their number can be at the end of the season.
Our number is currently .75, so long as get a win and a tie this weekend against OSU then we'll seal that one (pending no future losses in the tourney to NMU/UNO/OSU).

In short. Go Miami sweep. Go Bemidji sweep. Go whomever Denver is playing... @ Mankato. Ehhh, at least they are decent at home.

Oh, and this is the week I think we go only Reich personally, this is a playoff atmosphere against OSU and these wins are important.

I think if Michigan drops out that poses more of a problem than if UNO does. If the split does it really affect us that much? I don't see Denver losing next weekend at all and I believe if we win out we would eventually get the #1 seed back. Especially if we sweep OSU we can COP points over DU. PWR is always tricky and tough to figure out, I haven't looked at the comparisons in depth enough but just like the fact that the CCHA is getting the respect and some of these non traditional teams are moving up because they deserve it. 4 in right now with 2 knocking on the door is always nice to see for the confrence.

JD- reading your post kind of gave me a headache with all of these scenarios lol

 

[mcfarljd]

Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami season thread part II: Unfinished Business

Yea wouldn't want Mich to drop out at all, that'd be 2 TUC wins thrown out. We are so close with some teams that the 1 loss to UNO may help things stay our way. It won't matter if we don't pick up some Ws this weekend though.

 

[MiamiRedhawks2008]

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I will be upfront in that I did not watch a single second of hockey this weekend (except Olympics). So I can't comment on the play in the UNO series. That said:

I'm sure that I am in the minority, but I am not a huge believer in the "good loss" concept. I hate losing (obviously), but this is an acceptable loss. I don't think any of us thought that Miami would run the conference table after January (at least I hope not). There are just too many good teams that know each other extremely well - in any conference, not just the CCHA. So for Miami to have had only 1 loss from October to February is more than any of us could have asked for.

Also, if a team can't gain focus after a loss - any loss - they shouldn't be playing. I don't think they should place any more emphasis on this loss, or on the upcoming OSU series, than they have on any other series leading up to this. Do they have areas in which to improve? Absolutely. But I just can't buy into the idea that this team is better off because of the loss.

I'm not respnding to anyone in particular; just the general "good loss" comments above.

 

[MiamiRedhawks2008]

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I haven't seen a thread on this, so I thought I'd just put it on here:

I hope most everyone got to see the USA-Canada hockey game, because it was the absolute epitome of what hockey is at its best. It was hard-hitting, highly skilled hockey at an frenetic for the entire 60 minutes. There were men giving up the body at every turn. I don't think a man on either team could get in more than 3 strides without getting bruised off of the puck. I watched part of the Russia-Check Rep game in the afternoon, and am watching the Finland-Sweden game now. Neither of these games comes anywhere close to the physicality of the USA-Canada game. It was truly a joy to watch.

GO USA!!!

 

[mcfarljd]

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Even though this is a pretty big rivalry I don't think anyone could expect the physical play of the US/Canada game in this Fin/Swede matchup. This has finesse written all over it.

Swedes up 3-0. If they get a 6 goal win then they bump the States and get the #1 seed.

 

[MUhawks628]

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As a Wings fan I feel obligated to root for Sweden in this game, but at the same time I am then rooting for Peter Forsberg...talk about contradictory .

 

[MUhawks628]

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So how many people will be making the trip over to Columbus this weekend, over/under on the crowd being over 50% Miami fans again?

Last game we were sitting behind a group of about 50 little kids who were quite enamored with our goal chant although one of the dads was less then pleased with our clean, albeight constant, heckling.

 

[RedhawkBandMan]

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So how many people will be making the trip over to Columbus this weekend, over/under on the crowd being over 50% Miami fans again?

Last game we were sitting behind a group of about 50 little kids who were quite enamored with our goal chant although one of the dads was less then pleased with our clean, albeight constant, heckling.

Of course I'll be there! Looking forward to driving some OSU fans out of the arena with incessant goal chants and loud renditions of the Fight Song!

In case you don't already have your tickets, $7 gets you in the Miami block and pregame reception at BW3's w/ appetizers and wings: Register Here!

If you'll be in Columbus on Friday: Come watch the game with us!

Finally, we'll be headed to The Little Bar after the game to celebrate the end of a great regular season.

Facebook Event with all the details for the day.

 

[redhawkman10]

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I will be upfront in that I did not watch a single second of hockey this weekend (except Olympics). So I can't comment on the play in the UNO series. That said:

I'm sure that I am in the minority, but I am not a huge believer in the "good loss" concept. I hate losing (obviously), but this is an acceptable loss. I don't think any of us thought that Miami would run the conference table after January (at least I hope not). There are just too many good teams that know each other extremely well - in any conference, not just the CCHA. So for Miami to have had only 1 loss from October to February is more than any of us could have asked for.

Also, if a team can't gain focus after a loss - any loss - they shouldn't be playing. I don't think they should place any more emphasis on this loss, or on the upcoming OSU series, than they have on any other series leading up to this. Do they have areas in which to improve? Absolutely. But I just can't buy into the idea that this team is better off because of the loss.

I'm not respnding to anyone in particular; just the general "good loss" comments above.

well some on here had said they should win out, but won't name names.

Now in response I will say this, you are correct to a certain extent. Good loses are cliche, but this loss will be good for the team IMO. And yes there is a difference. I believe this loss will bring them back down to earth similar to what the Robert Morris losses did and will force them to re focus for the stretch run. You look at what happened to them in the conference tournament at home last year and, IMO, I believe those losses were the key ingredient in re-dedicating this team to prove themselves and is what got them to the title game. Who knows if they would of gotten there had they beaten NMU, but they did without beating them. Guess my point is at this level if you get on a roll and start steamrolling teams like they have you can get lost in things, but a loss like the one on saturday can bring you back down to earth a little bit and actually be beneficial. It also gives the coaching staff a lot to use as a teaching tool. Gives them a lot to work on during the week and you can get their attention a little easier because all you have to do is remind them they got their butt whipped this weekend. And lets be honest UNO whipped them in all fazes even though the score was 4-2.

Just my take on things, no one wants to lose like you said and the term "good loss" is cliche but there can be a lot of positive things that come out of a loss.

 

[redhawkman10]

Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami season thread part II: Unfinished Business

I haven't seen a thread on this, so I thought I'd just put it on here:

I hope most everyone got to see the USA-Canada hockey game, because it was the absolute epitome of what hockey is at its best. It was hard-hitting, highly skilled hockey at an frenetic for the entire 60 minutes. There were men giving up the body at every turn. I don't think a man on either team could get in more than 3 strides without getting bruised off of the puck. I watched part of the Russia-Check Rep game in the afternoon, and am watching the Finland-Sweden game now. Neither of these games comes anywhere close to the physicality of the USA-Canada game. It was truly a joy to watch.

GO USA!!!

More to it with all the hype all over majority of tv networks and radio all day on sunday, and not just sports networks, I think there were a lot of people tuning in that don't normally watch hockey. And you have to believe that some will tune in again because that was one of the most intense fantastic hockey games I have ever seen. And for the casual viewer that had to be a joy to watch!

What can you say about the effort the US team put forth last night, but it was phenominal!

 

[MiamiRedhawks2008]

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Guess my point is at this level if you get on a roll and start steamrolling teams like they have you can get lost in things, but a loss like the one on saturday can bring you back down to earth a little bit and actually be beneficial. It also gives the coaching staff a lot to use as a teaching tool. Gives them a lot to work on during the week and you can get their attention a little easier because all you have to do is remind them they got their butt whipped this weekend. And lets be honest UNO whipped them in all fazes even though the score was 4-2.

Just my take on things, no one wants to lose like you said and the term "good loss" is cliche but there can be a lot of positive things that come out of a loss.

I will give you that point. I don't think we're disagreeing at all here, so "tom-ay-to" "tom-ah-to."