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walrus said:
Yeah, before 9/11 Bush got a free ride:rolleyes:
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The point exactly. Just as with 9/11, the country has gone through a near economic catastrophy not seen since the great depression. But rather than seeking solidarity in times of need as happened after 9/11...conservatives were hypercritical (and not constructively so) throughout the period. Indeed, you didn't hear the liberal community as a whole calling Bush a Nazi in the days after 9/11.
 
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5mn_Major said:
The point exactly. Just as with 9/11, the country has gone through a near economic catastrophy not seen since the great depression. But rather than seeking solidarity in times of need as happened after 9/11...conservatives were hypercritical (and not constructively so) throughout the period. Indeed, you didn't hear the liberal community as a whole calling Bush a Nazi in the days after 9/11.
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Didn't Obamas bailout bills pass easily? I know Maines Repubs voted for them so what exactly are you talking about?
 
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walrus said:
Didn't Obamas bailout bills pass easily? I know Maines Repubs voted for them so what exactly are you talking about?
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So what...Zell Miller supported frequently supported W.

If you would have read my post...you'd know what I was talking about.

"Rather than seeking solidarity in times of need as happened after 9/11...conservatives have been hypercritical (and not constructively so) throughout the period. Indeed, you didn't hear the liberal community as a whole calling Bush a Nazi in the days after 9/11."
 
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walrus said:
Didn't Obamas bailout bills pass easily? I know Maines Repubs voted for them so what exactly are you talking about?
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Not really. They had to cut the total amount several times, so it would come in under a trillion dollars, even though many economists were saying the package was already too small to have the desired effect, and then also replace some $300 million of targeted stimulus spending with $300 million in tax cuts instead, cause that's what the Repubs demanded.

And stupidly, Obama and the Dems complied, so they could have a 'bipartisan' bill.
 
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5mn_Major said:
So what...Zell Miller supported frequently supported W.

If you would have read my post...you'd know what I was talking about.

"Rather than seeking solidarity in times of need as happened after 9/11...conservatives have been hypercritical (and not constructively so) throughout the period. Indeed, you didn't hear the liberal community as a whole calling Bush a Nazi in the days after 9/11."
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What conservatives? I don't see or hear many, do you mean talk radio? They aren't conservatives, they're money makers.
As far Repubs(who I don't see as conservatives) in the house and senate are concerned, they voted for Obamas Economic polices, how much support do you want?
 
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rufus said:
Not really. They had to cut the total amount several times, so it would come in under a trillion dollars, even though many economists were saying the package was already too small to have the desired effect, and then also replace some $300 million of targeted stimulus spending with $300 million in tax cuts instead, cause that's what the Repubs demanded.

And stupidly, Obama and the Dems complied, so they could have a 'bipartisan' bill.
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Many economists=Paul Krugman.... and that's about it.
 
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5mn_Major said:
"Rather than seeking solidarity in times of need as happened after 9/11...conservatives have been hypercritical (and not constructively so) throughout the period. Indeed, you didn't hear the liberal community as a whole calling Bush a Nazi in the days after 9/11."
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Are you seriously comparing what happened on 9/11 to the current recession?

Wow, someone seriously needs a reality check.

:rolleyes:
 
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5mn_Major said:
The point exactly. Just as with 9/11, the country has gone through a near economic catastrophy not seen since the great depression. But rather than seeking solidarity in times of need as happened after 9/11...conservatives were hypercritical (and not constructively so) throughout the period. Indeed, you didn't hear the liberal community as a whole calling Bush a Nazi in the days after 9/11.
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I'm not getting the connection...are you saying conservatives called Obama a nazi or or you saying conservatives calling Obama a socialist would be the equivalent of liberals calling Bush a nazi after 9/11?
 
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pirate said:
I'm not getting the connection...are you saying conservatives called Obama a nazi or or you saying conservatives calling Obama a socialist would be the equivalent of liberals calling Bush a nazi after 9/11?
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He's saying that the financial crisis is as traumatic for the country as 9/11 was, and liberals cut Bush a ton of slack after 9/11 so conservatives should do the same for Obama now.

I think.
 
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LynahFan said:
He's saying that the financial crisis is as traumatic for the country as 9/11 was, and liberals cut Bush a ton of slack after 9/11 so conservatives should do the same for Obama now.

I think.
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Difference?

Financial crisis is our own mess - we created it, it's our mess.

9/11 - they started it - we finish it.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
FYP
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and they are doing a fine job of stringing us out across the region so we can spend even more money, fight internally, be distracted from solving the economic crisis, lose more lives and create more badwill...somebody read the art of war and it wasn't us

Going into Iraq was a monumentally stupid idea and we are reminded of that every single day.
 
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joecct said:
Difference?
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I was thinking that the difference was that in 2002, the Democrats either:

A) thought that Bush was doing the right thing, so it really wasn't a matter of cutting him slack, or
B) thought that he was doing the wrong thing but were too chicken to stand up for what they believed and compromised their principles to get one more hit of re-election crack,

whereas in 2009, in the cases where the Republicans thought Obama was on the wrong track, they had the guts to say so, even though it meant going against the supermajority in Congress, the broad public sentiment, and a very popular President.
 
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LynahFan said:
He's saying that the financial crisis is as traumatic for the country as 9/11 was, and liberals cut Bush a ton of slack after 9/11 so conservatives should do the same for Obama now.

I think.
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How' d giving Bush a ton of slack workout in Iraq?
 
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LynahFan said:
It pretty much sucked. So I don't know why anybody (looking at you, 5mn_major) would tout that as a reason why the Republicans should do the same thing now...
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They shouldn't, everything needs to be questioned. They have the majority, have some balls and do what they think is right. We see in 10 and 12 if voters feel it was right
 
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