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Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!

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Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!

So, has WSJ formally declared itself to be part of the media wing of the RNC, or are we just supposed to infer it? :rolleyes:
 
Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!

So, has WSJ formally declared itself to be part of the media wing of the RNC, or are we just supposed to infer it? :rolleyes:

Like any Murdoch-owned enterprise, you have to infer it.
 
Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!

It's an opinion piece! :confused: I realize you guys don't like it when every media outlet doesn't spout the liberal angle on things, but to complain that the WSJ is part of the Republican Party because of what is said in an opinion piece is puzzling. They lean conservative, but certainly aren't like Fox or something. If I posted such complaints about your liberal opinion pieces, I wouldn't have enough hours in the day to make all the postings.
 
Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!

So, has WSJ formally declared itself to be part of the media wing of the RNC, or are we just supposed to infer it? :rolleyes:

actually, you should double check the byline on this column. Should Stanford University "formally declare itself to be part of the RNC"? come on now. Every good opinion needs a page to land on, even if it makes you angry.
 
Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!

actually, you should double check the byline on this column. Should Stanford University "formally declare itself to be part of the RNC"?

You mean the Hoover Institution?
 
Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!

So, has WSJ formally declared itself to be part of the media wing of the RNC, or are we just supposed to infer it? :rolleyes:

I missed it. When did the NYT and Washington Post declare themselves as part of the media wing of the DNC?
 
Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!

actually, you should double check the byline on this column. Should Stanford University "formally declare itself to be part of the RNC"? come on now. Every good opinion needs a page to land on, even if it makes you angry.
Sorry, I am exactly the wrong person to try that one on -- guess where I went to grad school? :) As the other guy said, Hoover is as hard-wired into the conservative chattering classes as Brookings is into the liberals.

The piece is facile -- it completely ignores 400 years of international political science in favor of scoring a few obvious, partisan points. It's not a "good" opinion piece, it's either knowingly obtuse or unknowingly childish.
 
Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!

Anyone believe in symbolism?

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Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!

It's an opinion piece! :confused: I realize you guys don't like it when every media outlet doesn't spout the liberal angle on things
Please. It's just so inevitable that POV puff pieces like this get churned out of mills that are devoted water-carriers for that side. It's perfectly fine for them to machine gun their talking points out there to try to obfuscate / influence the debate in the hopes of catching people without any real reading in a subject unawares, but let's not pretend they are anything more than sloganeering for the same tired old gang.

At least liberal propaganda has to pass peer review. ;)
 
Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!

exactly. look into it.

Why should I take advice on economics from people who work at an institution named after, and follow the philosophies of, the president who caused the Great Depression?
 
Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!

Please. It's just so inevitable that POV puff pieces like this get churned out of mills that are devoted water-carriers for that side. It's perfectly fine for them to machine gun their talking points out there to try to obfuscate / influence the debate in the hopes of catching people without any real reading in a subject unawares, but let's not pretend they are anything more than sloganeering for the same tired old gang.

At least liberal propaganda has to pass peer review. ;)
At least they keep something like that to their opinion pages, unlike many liberal outlets that have news stories that read with that much of a slant. I guess I assumed that when people see it's an opinion piece, they understand it's just someone's opinion, and not an effort to provide an unbiased report of the news.
 
Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!

At least they keep something like that to their opinion pages, unlike many liberal outlets that have news stories that read with that much of a slant. I guess I assumed that when people see it's an opinion piece, they understand it's just someone's opinion, and not an effort to provide an unbiased report of the news.

Right. Conservative publications never slant the news stories. That's reserved for the libtards.
 
Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!

At least they keep something like that to their opinion pages, unlike many liberal outlets that have news stories that read with that much of a slant.
"Many liberal outlets"? Right. You mean like the Washington Times, which constantly cross-dresses opinion as news, or the WSJ itself, which has done it more and more over the last few years, or of course the grand-daddy of them all, FNC, which is caught about five times a day specifically tailoring its news coverage to its all-but-officially chartered purpose as a Republican party bullhorn.

Cultural relativism suggests we accept primitive peoples' practices as of indeterminate ultimate moral worth; it doesn't blind us to their shortcomings. Those guys' games are cute; they just shouldn't expect to be taken seriously.
 
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"Many liberal outlets"? Right. You mean like the Washington Times, which constantly cross-dresses opinion as news, or the WSJ itself, which has done it more and more over the last few years, or of course the grand-daddy of them all, FNC, which is caught about five times a day specifically tailoring its news coverage to its all-but-officially chartered purpose as a Republican party bullhorn.
You all were moaning about an opinion piece in the WSJ. Opinion pieces are what the name says. If you want to make a broader argument about the WSJ, that's a different story. But to use an opinion piece to say the WSJ is a mouthpiece of the Republican Party is just nonsense.
 
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You all were moaning about an opinion piece in the WSJ. Opinion pieces are what the name says. If you want to make a broader argument about the WSJ, that's a different story. But to use an opinion piece to say the WSJ is a mouthpiece of the Republican Party is just nonsense.
First off, I was whining. Moaning has a very different connotation.

But how about this, then: (1) the WSJ has an overt agenda, (2) that opinion piece is fairly sophomoric propaganda, and (3) it is statistically likely that opinion pieces that fit their agenda will be printed by them, but (4) statement (1) is not strictly deduced from either (2) or (3), but is an independent observation.
 
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First off, I was whining. Moaning has a very different connotation.

But how about this, then: (1) the WSJ has an overt agenda, (2) that opinion piece is fairly sophomoric propaganda, and (3) it is statistically likely that opinion pieces that fit their agenda will be printed by them, but (4) statement (1) is not strictly deduced from either (2) or (3), but is an independent observation.

If WSJ was Fox, would you feel the same?

WSJ is Fox.
 
Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!

Once again, whoosh. Or is this another halting effort at humor?

Woosh nothing.

At least they keep something like that to their opinion pages, unlike many liberal outlets that have news stories that read with that much of a slant.

Part 1: You say the WSJ has no bias in their news pieces.
Part 2: You say that liberal outlets do.

You never mention that any conservative outlets do. Why? Are you biased?
 
Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!

First off, I was whining. Moaning has a very different connotation.

But how about this, then: (1) the WSJ has an overt agenda, (2) that opinion piece is fairly sophomoric propaganda, and (3) it is statistically likely that opinion pieces that fit their agenda will be printed by them, but (4) statement (1) is not strictly deduced from either (2) or (3), but is an independent observation.
Lots of newspapers publish opinion pieces from all sorts of perspectives. Probably they lean a bit one way or the other if they have an overall leaning. But most if not all papers I've read have a variety of views shown on their opinion pages over time. You are still grasping at straws on this one.
 
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