Re: Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter
I associate myself with the remarks of the Gentleman from Ithaca.
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Re: Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter
Two years since Barry's inauguration. Are we better off?
Hope and change, huh?
Two years since Barry's inauguration. Are we better off?
Hope and change, huh?
Foxton
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Re: Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter
Also is that how people are taught to cite their sources?
And every last one of those things are a direct result of Obama's presidency..... sigh.
Also is that how people are taught to cite their sources?
P
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Re: Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter
"Numbers lie all the time. They lie when 72% of Americans say they're tired of a sex scandal, while all the while, newspaper circulation goes through the roof for anyone featuring the story."
"Numbers lie all the time. They lie when 72% of Americans say they're tired of a sex scandal, while all the while, newspaper circulation goes through the roof for anyone featuring the story."
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Re: Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter
So *gasp* Presidents aren't the only ones who effect the economy?
So *gasp* Presidents aren't the only ones who effect the economy?
St. Clown
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Re: Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter
The same characterization got President Clinton elected back in 92.
The same characterization got President Clinton elected back in 92.
Foxton
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Re: Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter
What an incredible thought!
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
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Affect. Sorry, pet peeve.
We are far better off two years down the road than if the election had gone the other way. That was a lot of damage to heal overnight -- the previous pilot got drunk and had to be relieved and we just managed to pull out of a nose drive, and people want to complain we used some extra fuel and we're not soaring yet?
Affect. Sorry, pet peeve.
We are far better off two years down the road than if the election had gone the other way. That was a lot of damage to heal overnight -- the previous pilot got drunk and had to be relieved and we just managed to pull out of a nose drive, and people want to complain we used some extra fuel and we're not soaring yet?
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walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Re: Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter
Does that come from your crystal ball?
Does that come from your crystal ball?
Re: Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter
You can't question matters of faith.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter
Because everyone prefaces all their comments here with "IMHO."
Because everyone prefaces all their comments here with "IMHO."
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Re: Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter
Thanks, always wrangling with that one.
I'm not convinced the country is any different than it would have been under McCain. I'm sure he would still have felt a need to pass a stimulus, and in a fit of moderation would have sought out some terrible compromise on healthcare as well.
Thanks, always wrangling with that one.
I'm not convinced the country is any different than it would have been under McCain. I'm sure he would still have felt a need to pass a stimulus, and in a fit of moderation would have sought out some terrible compromise on healthcare as well.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter
SCOTUS is different, and that alone is a reason to give thanks every day. I'm hopeful Obama gets another draft pick with a third April retirement (Ginsburg, anyone?), particularly since his choices so far have been right down the middle of the con law mainstream. We're actually staffing the hospital with doctors again, rather than faith healers.
I am very disappointed, as stated elsewhere, that Obama backed down on a lot of his promises regarding the Surveillance State and the Forever War. Dems always worry about being called yellow or traitors or some such BS. Firstly, they aren't and should have the courage of their convictions. Secondly, the other side's just going to attack anyway, so why not do the right thing? (I'm sure a righty has the same pangs about his party always folding when cuts of social programs come up).
On the economy, I dunno -- the wise heads said we needed TARP and the bailouts and the stimulus to avoid the Eschaton, but at the same time they were the same ****tards who got us into this mess. And McCain would have been compromised by the same banksters, because both parties, on economic issues, are the tools of the crooks (though the Dems don't seem to take such a visceral joy from it. They are Unhappy Plutocrats, which is maybe worse since it's like getting just as drunk at the party and puking on the expensive rug and yet still not being any fun.)
SCOTUS is different, and that alone is a reason to give thanks every day. I'm hopeful Obama gets another draft pick with a third April retirement (Ginsburg, anyone?), particularly since his choices so far have been right down the middle of the con law mainstream. We're actually staffing the hospital with doctors again, rather than faith healers.
I am very disappointed, as stated elsewhere, that Obama backed down on a lot of his promises regarding the Surveillance State and the Forever War. Dems always worry about being called yellow or traitors or some such BS. Firstly, they aren't and should have the courage of their convictions. Secondly, the other side's just going to attack anyway, so why not do the right thing? (I'm sure a righty has the same pangs about his party always folding when cuts of social programs come up).
On the economy, I dunno -- the wise heads said we needed TARP and the bailouts and the stimulus to avoid the Eschaton, but at the same time they were the same ****tards who got us into this mess. And McCain would have been compromised by the same banksters, because both parties, on economic issues, are the tools of the crooks (though the Dems don't seem to take such a visceral joy from it. They are Unhappy Plutocrats, which is maybe worse since it's like getting just as drunk at the party and puking on the expensive rug and yet still not being any fun.)
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walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Re: Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter
Congress would still be the same either way, so I find it hard to believe it would any different
Congress would still be the same either way, so I find it hard to believe it would any different
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Re: Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter
Exactly. In fact, from a conservative perspective, the country would be far worse off. I doubt the Tea Party gets created if McCain is president, and I bet Pelosi is still Speaker of the House as well.
Exactly. In fact, from a conservative perspective, the country would be far worse off. I doubt the Tea Party gets created if McCain is president, and I bet Pelosi is still Speaker of the House as well.
ScoobyDoo
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Re: Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter
No, but the theory was we were on the edge of a precipice. And if you were not on the edge of that precipice personally I can see where you wouldn't think you were better off. That's pretty much my feeling that I'm not better off.
No, but the theory was we were on the edge of a precipice. And if you were not on the edge of that precipice personally I can see where you wouldn't think you were better off. That's pretty much my feeling that I'm not better off.
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Re: Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter
Paul Ryan will give the GOP response to the State of the Union.
Paul Ryan will give the GOP response to the State of the Union.
Kepler
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Re: Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter
It would be funny if he gave last year's by mistake. I'm sure it's been written since July.
It would be funny if he gave last year's by mistake. I'm sure it's been written since July.
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Re: Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter
I'd enjoy it if he was just like "Hey, no one wants to acknowledge my plan for Social Security, and now I've got a captive audience, so here goes." And commences a 2 hour Powerpoint presentation.
I'd enjoy it if he was just like "Hey, no one wants to acknowledge my plan for Social Security, and now I've got a captive audience, so here goes." And commences a 2 hour Powerpoint presentation.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter
Over/under on use of the word "troubling"?
I'd be up for a substantive SOTU, but the last SOTU where anybody said anything of value was FDR, and the last "official response" that said anything of any value was never.
Over/under on use of the word "troubling"?
I'd be up for a substantive SOTU, but the last SOTU where anybody said anything of value was FDR, and the last "official response" that said anything of any value was never.
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