Notre Dame to Hockey East

[mookie1995]

So are you suggesting that ND does a "home and home" every weekend? (Personally I'd be all for that, but I can't imagine it's gonig to happen).

we won't see home and homes. we will see each team play once there, and once here.

some weeks we will have uhn at home friday, then go to nu saturday. others we will host bentley on friday and bc on saturday. then we will make a single trip to nd for a saturday. following that we will play at umass on friday and at uml on saturday.

i don't want a h/h set up where we play maine the 2nd week of december and then are done with them for the year. friggin stupid.

it's not rocket science.

 

[Craig P.]

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what's the big deal? one flipping plane ride. whooptie doo! bu is going to fly out for a single game on dec 31.

if they segment out some special schedule for nd, joe bags is getting strung up by his clit.

It's not a "special" schedule for ND alone. It's a "special" schedule for ND, Maine, and possibly two other schools, and in each case it remains balanced in terms of total home/away games and total games played against each opponent. Not to mention how unfair it would be for ND to be playing two games in a home weekend when the second team they would play would be rested, or in the alternative, how ridiculous it would be for every ND home weekend to be Thursday-Saturday or Friday-Sunday. I truly don't understand why you're so exercised about it, the mixed schedule makes a lot more sense.

 

[J.D.]

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some weeks we will have uhn at home friday, then go to nu saturday. others we will host bentley on friday and bc on saturday. then we will make a single trip to nd for a saturday. following that we will play at umass on friday and at uml on saturday.

this is what i've been saying. two HE teams could even travel out to south bend. one plays ND friday, the other sunday. only problem with this would be if ND puts up a stink about the saturday opponent not playing the night before. when ND comes east, they play one team friday, another team saturday. if it's maine we're talking about, ND can come out to play maine (their only single game trip). maine could even play another team that weekend.

the schedule i'm not in favor of is two at ND one year, two home against ND the next. but that's what we'll probably get.

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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this is what i've been saying. two HE teams could even travel out to south bend. one plays ND friday, the other sunday. only problem with this would be if ND puts up a stink about the saturday opponent not playing the night before.

That's their problem. If they don't like it they can GF themselves and find another league. No one wants them here anyway.

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

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Except for those Hockey East folks that invited them, of course.

 

[ericredaxe]

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It's not a "special" schedule for ND alone. It's a "special" schedule for ND, Maine, and possibly two other schools, and in each case it remains balanced in terms of total home/away games and total games played against each opponent. Not to mention how unfair it would be for ND to be playing two games in a home weekend when the second team they would play would be rested, or in the alternative, how ridiculous it would be for every ND home weekend to be Thursday-Saturday or Friday-Sunday. I truly don't understand why you're so exercised about it, the mixed schedule makes a lot more sense.

Well it kind of stops making sense is if the rest of the schedule filters down to home and homes because of that... from a fan's perspectice (as Mookie mentioned earlier) it would be pretty lame to see a team only one weekend per year. Better to have them spread out.

 

[WildShawn]

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that's their problem. If they don't like it they can gf themselves and find another league. No one from bc wants them here because now they're not the biggest name school in the conference.

fyp

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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fyp

Nice try, but no. It's pretty obvious from my prior posts why I don't like this. BC fans have the least to be upset when you look at their position here.

I don't know why you're so happy about this. UNH's chances of a national title will go from .00000000001% to .000000000000000000000001%.

 

[WildShawn]

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Nice try, but no. It's pretty obvious from my prior posts why I don't like this. BC fans have the least to be upset when you look at their position here.

I don't know why you're so happy about this. UNH's chances of a national title will go from .00000000001% to .000000000000000000000001%.

so, there's statistically no change when you round down

 

[J.D.]

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fyp

Not sure if you were just kidding or not, but there will be plenty of BC fans happy to see ND in Hockey East for that actual reason. Anyway, I couldn't care less about Notre Dame being a bigger name school than BC. I'm only concerned with the potential recruiting advantage ND will get from their TV deal--that's it. Other than that, I welcome the competition.

 

[Craig P.]

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Well it kind of stops making sense is if the rest of the schedule filters down to home and homes because of that... from a fan's perspectice (as Mookie mentioned earlier) it would be pretty lame to see a team only one weekend per year. Better to have them spread out.

Well, setting aside the trips to anybody that winds up on a "long trip" program, there's nothing stopping some sort of ECAC-esque travel partner arrangement.

Personally, I like having a two-game series against an opponent, but YMMV.

I'm sure some of my opinions on scheduling are colored by my time at ND, which featured mostly two-game series at one site, and only guaranteed us home games against Bowling Green every year—other schools would alternate, and the "cluster" system would rotate pairs of schools through.

 

[Bossk]

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They should hold a contest for spot #12.

 

[Rover]

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A team that is undefeated at Agganis (and is 3-2-1 since the 2004-05 season) can't compete with BU? And losing 1-0 in arguably RPI's worst season and winning 3-1 afterwards means they can't compete with UNH? Not to mention the fairly close games in recent memory with Notre Dame?

If RPI has trouble winning in their own conference, how exactly are they going to cut it in a better conference like Hockey East? While I don't follow the program closely, I don't recall too many ECAC championships, Frozen Fours, or even NCAA appearances after the 80's. Getting up for a big HE game a few times a year is a little different than playing ND, BU, BC, UNH, and Maine 15 times every year. In contrast, ECAC generally has one good team from a national perspective each year (Yale last year for example).

Look, I have nothing against RPI's program, fans, or facilities. Well, back in the day some old guy bawled us out because BU kicked their @ sses in their own arena, but I digress. What I do foresee is an arms race in Hockey East as the schools with new facilities and highly paid coaches keep bagging the recruits while everyone else gets left further behind (Maine for example really needs a new arena). Not sure how well RPI keeps up with all that.

 

[Red Cloud]

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What I do foresee is an arms race in Hockey East as the schools with new facilities and highly paid coaches keep bagging the recruits while everyone else gets left further behind (Maine for example really needs a new arena). Not sure how well RPI keeps up with all that.

If I may... probably with our just renovated facility and highly paid coach.

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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If RPI has trouble winning in their own conference, how exactly are they going to cut it in a better conference like Hockey East? While I don't follow the program closely, I don't recall too many ECAC championships, Frozen Fours, or even NCAA appearances after the 80's. Getting up for a big HE game a few times a year is a little different than playing ND, BU, BC, UNH, and Maine 15 times every year. In contrast, ECAC generally has one good team from a national perspective each year (Yale last year for example).

It's a solid point but I'd probably take Maine out of that category for the time being. And point out that the typical "good" ECAC teams from a national perspective are only ok and not great compared to the best that HE or WCHA or CCHA has to offer (with rare exceptions like Cornell in 2003 and to a much lesser extent SLU in 2000). HE is deeper and has some serious guns at the top. A very different animal. I suppose it's possible that if BU and BC bungle their next coaching hires (who could possibly imagine Gene Defilippo screwing up a coaching hire at BC?!!!!!), that Maine keeps Timmay around, Merrimack falls off after last season and stops recruiting 25 year old Canadians, and NU's most recent hire doesn't turn out to be very good... that RPI could have a window of opportunity for a while but that will eventually close and that scenario isn't all that likely anyway.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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If RPI has trouble winning in their own conference, how exactly are they going to cut it in a better conference like Hockey East? While I don't follow the program closely, I don't recall too many ECAC championships, Frozen Fours, or even NCAA appearances after the 80's. Getting up for a big HE game a few times a year is a little different than playing ND, BU, BC, UNH, and Maine 15 times every year. In contrast, ECAC generally has one good team from a national perspective each year (Yale last year for example).

How does UVM cut it?

One thing to remember is that the play style in the ECAC is quite different from what we see in our non-conference play. You may notice that we will dominate against certain skate-circles teams, like Yale and Dartmouth, while have difficulty against clutch-and-grab teams, like Colgate and Cornell. I am not familiar with the play styles of Hockey East so I can't comment on how I think we would do against specific teams in that league, but it's a big reason why we're looking towards other leagues with the tougher competition.

 

[UML]

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That's their problem. If they don't like it they can GF themselves and find another league. No one wants them here anyway.

What you said.

 

[J.D.]

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RPI is 3-3 against Yale the last three years (pretty good considering how good Yale has been)

5-3 against Dartmouth in that same span. I don't know if "dominate" is the right word for that.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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RPI is 3-3 against Yale the last three years (pretty good considering how good Yale has been)

5-3 against Dartmouth in that same span. I don't know if "dominate" is the right word for that.

Considering that 2008-09 (one of the years in your reference) was quite possibly our worst year since our last NC, I'd say it's pretty decent.

 

[J.D.]

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No question, just not dominant IMO. When I think dominance, I think Patriots over Bills (whoops).