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Norwich Cadets Hockey 2011-2012: In Search of a Title
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AldenPartridge1819
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Just trying to steer the conversation into more interesting waters.
Just trying to steer the conversation into more interesting waters.
PSUChamps2001
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I mean come on guys will it really matter who plays? They're playing the offensive struggling Cardinals Friday night....McShane could probably shut them out in net...I mean its just Plattsburgh...or Plattsburg for you non geography majors.....all kidding aside can't wait for another great game. Thank god for NSN...now just have to make sure the wife isn't in labor from 7-930 Friday night. Not sure the docs would like hearing ducky inbetween contractions.....thanks again to Norwich for giving us video.....*sarcastic tone towards bruce almighty*
I mean come on guys will it really matter who plays? They're playing the offensive struggling Cardinals Friday night....McShane could probably shut them out in net...I mean its just Plattsburgh...or Plattsburg for you non geography majors.....all kidding aside can't wait for another great game. Thank god for NSN...now just have to make sure the wife isn't in labor from 7-930 Friday night. Not sure the docs would like hearing ducky inbetween contractions.....thanks again to Norwich for giving us video.....*sarcastic tone towards bruce almighty*
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After watching the team this year I got to agree Parker is still number 1, however, it will be interesting to see if he can improve his save% of .887 over the course of the year. Getting Forkey and Bell back at some point would give the coach more matchup options and increase depth. In the big games like Norwich vs Plattsburgh and Norwich vs Castleton having your No 2 center back could make a big differance in the games.
After watching the team this year I got to agree Parker is still number 1, however, it will be interesting to see if he can improve his save% of .887 over the course of the year. Getting Forkey and Bell back at some point would give the coach more matchup options and increase depth. In the big games like Norwich vs Plattsburgh and Norwich vs Castleton having your No 2 center back could make a big differance in the games.
gr8day4hockey
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after Fridays game and watching Parker, I can't imagine a controversy! He was lights out and played awesome.
after Fridays game and watching Parker, I can't imagine a controversy! He was lights out and played awesome.
CARDS_rule_the_Burgh
Nate LePage, Siena '13
Re: Norwich Cadets Hockey 2011-2012: In Search of a Title
Do I believe that Norwich players are incapable of committing violations like this? No. As infrequent as it may be, they are just as capable as any human being to drop to that level of idiocy. For the record: same goes for Plattsburgh Players.
But Benching a player is only one way to discipline a player. And it need not be for an entire game. I've seen players commit a penalty early in the 2nd period, and sit on the bench the rest of that period (defensive pairings getting shuffled during that time to account for only having 5 D), but be allowed to play again in the 3rd. It all depends on how the coach interprets the severity of the act, and where is falls on his disciplinary scale. But looking at a box score, you'd think that player never got disciplined at all. Other ways to discipline include: extra sprints at practice, a monetary fine that goes into a fund that will benefit the team, make the player clean the locker room, basically anything the coach thinks appropriate. Some coaches are more public about how they discipline their guys than others. Again I say: we will know that the player has been adequately disciplined when they stop acting like goons on the ice.
All I was trying to say is that it's on Coach Todd to discipline this player. He can do that in whatever way he wants. And so long as I have no proof to the contrary, I will assume he did just that. By all accounts, he is a respectable guy and a great hockey coach. I mean no disrespect to him, but he's been dealt a very tough hand and now the spotlight's on him. If he doesn't react in an appropriate manner, it's his reputation that's on the line right now.
No, I did not.
Where did I say that it had to have been the lesser version of facemasking simply because it was a Norwich player? I didn't. Stop putting words into my mouth. If it happened how you describe it, then the refs got it wrong. That absolutely should have been a DQ. There are grey areas in the rule book, which is why I advised you not to look at a score sheet and immediately make assumptions as to what happened. This is not a grey area, and so I pointed out what the referee's interpretation clearly was at that time. Again, if it happened as you described it, then the referee got it wrong. But, having not seen the incident myself, I can only take your version (as well as the official's) as personal interpretations of events.
Do I believe that Norwich players are incapable of committing violations like this? No. As infrequent as it may be, they are just as capable as any human being to drop to that level of idiocy. For the record: same goes for Plattsburgh Players.
I can't speak for anybody but myself. Do I agree that the incident should taken as an aberration? No. Regardless of how serious it is, if you are guilty of a dumb penalty that isn't a part of the natural flow of the game (that is to say, isn't a mistake play like a hooking or an accidental tripping, etc. I'm basically referring to fighting and any nonsense after the whistle), you need to be disciplined in some way by the coaching staff. That let's the player know that the behavior in question will not be tolerated, thus bettering the team as a whole: the less time they spend with this nonsense, the more time they can focus on improving their individual skill and their team chemistry. That's really what these individual players need to get through their skulls, and it's the coaches responsibility to do just that.
But Benching a player is only one way to discipline a player. And it need not be for an entire game. I've seen players commit a penalty early in the 2nd period, and sit on the bench the rest of that period (defensive pairings getting shuffled during that time to account for only having 5 D), but be allowed to play again in the 3rd. It all depends on how the coach interprets the severity of the act, and where is falls on his disciplinary scale. But looking at a box score, you'd think that player never got disciplined at all. Other ways to discipline include: extra sprints at practice, a monetary fine that goes into a fund that will benefit the team, make the player clean the locker room, basically anything the coach thinks appropriate. Some coaches are more public about how they discipline their guys than others. Again I say: we will know that the player has been adequately disciplined when they stop acting like goons on the ice.
All I was trying to say is that it's on Coach Todd to discipline this player. He can do that in whatever way he wants. And so long as I have no proof to the contrary, I will assume he did just that. By all accounts, he is a respectable guy and a great hockey coach. I mean no disrespect to him, but he's been dealt a very tough hand and now the spotlight's on him. If he doesn't react in an appropriate manner, it's his reputation that's on the line right now.
AldenPartridge1819
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Re: Norwich Cadets Hockey 2011-2012: In Search of a Title
C'mon, we just got this thing back on track. Go tally the East pick 'em standings or something
C'mon, we just got this thing back on track. Go tally the East pick 'em standings or something
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I think everybody needs to realize that one reason that Carroll's save percentage is where it is lies in the fact that some of the teams that NU plays often don't get their routine shots through to the goalie, so his stats are not padded by the easy chances. He faces a higher proportion of grade A chances than many goalies do, but when he is tested he does rise to the occasion. Carroll was very good against Castleton, especially in the third period. The only really questionable goal that i've seen him give up was the second goal in that game. It looked like he never saw the shot.
I think everybody needs to realize that one reason that Carroll's save percentage is where it is lies in the fact that some of the teams that NU plays often don't get their routine shots through to the goalie, so his stats are not padded by the easy chances. He faces a higher proportion of grade A chances than many goalies do, but when he is tested he does rise to the occasion. Carroll was very good against Castleton, especially in the third period. The only really questionable goal that i've seen him give up was the second goal in that game. It looked like he never saw the shot.
Old Rook NU'66
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I spoke with Fokey a about a month ago with his arm in a sling at the Southern Maine game and at that time I had heard it would be after Xmas before he returned. Owen Carpino cut his arm on a glass door at the Middlebury Inn after the Primelink. Freak accident that cost him 40 stitches--which I guess would make him another post holiday player. Bell had a concussion and with all the worry these days about head injuries, my guess is they are watching him closely but I do not know what his status is right now. Others hurting no doubt but they seem to be able to hold it together.
Does anyone know if Scott Schroeder will be returning in the 2nd Semester?
I spoke with Fokey a about a month ago with his arm in a sling at the Southern Maine game and at that time I had heard it would be after Xmas before he returned. Owen Carpino cut his arm on a glass door at the Middlebury Inn after the Primelink. Freak accident that cost him 40 stitches--which I guess would make him another post holiday player. Bell had a concussion and with all the worry these days about head injuries, my guess is they are watching him closely but I do not know what his status is right now. Others hurting no doubt but they seem to be able to hold it together.
Does anyone know if Scott Schroeder will be returning in the 2nd Semester?
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Re: Norwich Cadets Hockey 2011-2012: In Search of a Title
Coach McShane shed some light on the injuries on his weekly appearance on The Really Big Sports Show this morning on NSN Radio. Coach is on Thursday mornings at 9:30 throughout the season ... just go to nsnradio.net and click on the Really Big Show icon ...
If you want to hear today's interview go to the sight ... click on The Really Big Show ... then click on the Archive ... scroll through the archived shows to find today 12-8-11 ... the interview is about 25 minutes into the show!
This might help: http://www.nsnradio.net/?page_id=2177
Coach McShane shed some light on the injuries on his weekly appearance on The Really Big Sports Show this morning on NSN Radio. Coach is on Thursday mornings at 9:30 throughout the season ... just go to nsnradio.net and click on the Really Big Show icon ...
If you want to hear today's interview go to the sight ... click on The Really Big Show ... then click on the Archive ... scroll through the archived shows to find today 12-8-11 ... the interview is about 25 minutes into the show!
This might help: http://www.nsnradio.net/?page_id=2177
CROSBYNU63
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Re: Norwich Cadets Hockey 2011-2012: In Search of a Title
Forkey will be back after the break, Carpino is back in the lineup, Bell still out, My guess is no Schroeder for the second semester.
Forkey will be back after the break, Carpino is back in the lineup, Bell still out, My guess is no Schroeder for the second semester.
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Is Zac Fulton also out with a concussion? I seem to remember that both him and Emmond Bell were out for similar reasons. Too bad about Schroeder
, I loved watching him play! Any chance Scott and/or Steven will come back next year?
Despite the numerous early injuries, I am impressed with how deep our bench is and the quality hockey the freshman are playing. Great recruiting year for Wick.
Is Zac Fulton also out with a concussion? I seem to remember that both him and Emmond Bell were out for similar reasons. Too bad about Schroeder
, I loved watching him play! Any chance Scott and/or Steven will come back next year?Despite the numerous early injuries, I am impressed with how deep our bench is and the quality hockey the freshman are playing. Great recruiting year for Wick.
bakdraft21
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seems like its always a great recruiting class for THE WICK
Is Zac Fulton also out with a concussion? I seem to remember that both him and Emmond Bell were out for similar reasons. Too bad about Schroeder
Despite the numerous early injuries, I am impressed with how deep our bench is and the quality hockey the freshman are playing. Great recruiting year for Wick.
PrezdeJohnson09
Proud supporter of Osmirwich hockey
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If you don't see one back at the break....I'd highly doubt it happens next season.
If you don't see one back at the break....I'd highly doubt it happens next season.
PrezdeJohnson09
Proud supporter of Osmirwich hockey
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On paper this was considered a "down year" for recruiting.
But i whole heartedly agree...Thieda and Hale have performed admirably for first years as have Lindensmith and Lawler.
In limited action so far, Poulin and McEleney did well too.
Great recruiting year for Wick.
On paper this was considered a "down year" for recruiting.
But i whole heartedly agree...Thieda and Hale have performed admirably for first years as have Lindensmith and Lawler.
In limited action so far, Poulin and McEleney did well too.
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PuckVoice, Thanks for the link, and thanks to the rest of you for the updates.
PuckVoice, Thanks for the link, and thanks to the rest of you for the updates.
Derek Dunning
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Re: Norwich Cadets Hockey 2011-2012: In Search of a Title
Norwich Athletics recap on Plattsburgh/Norwich game tonight complete with three game action photos
Cadets salvage 4-4 tie with Plattsburgh
Norwich Athletics recap on Plattsburgh/Norwich game tonight complete with three game action photos
Cadets salvage 4-4 tie with Plattsburgh
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Kind of like the 1968 football game when Harvard beat Yale 29-29
Kind of like the 1968 football game when Harvard beat Yale 29-29
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