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Norwich Cadets Hockey 2011-2012: In Search of a Title

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Ive watched a few USM games and I think they are a player or two away from being a strong team. But if Torris is on.....could be a spoiler for sure!

Every time I see USM play Norwich--which at this point has been for about 8 or 9 years-- and I always come away saying the same thing, e.g. "they are only a player......" And yup... Torris is one tough kid.

That said... and on an entirely different subject--I have been wondering after watching NESCAC--now from afar-- what the consensus of fans more savvy than me is about the following:

Like most folks, I was sad to see the break up of the interlock between NESCAC and the ECAC-E. :mad: I guess the question I have is how much it has hurt (or helped) the respective conferences. :confused: I really have no opinion--other than I miss those games over here in Maine with Bowdoin and Colby and a sentimental Middlebury game that had conference points at stake.

As this point, Norwich has, by maintaing its winning pace, remained a well establish "DIII brand" throughout the national hockey community--which has not only helped NU but the ECAC-E brand among fans in other parts of the nation. What's more by now matching NU--game for game-- Castleton continues to create national attention to its program.

On the other hand over at the NESAC the Middlebury brand has faded quickly and is now being replaced with an always strong Bowdoin plus Amherst, and Williams. But Bowdoin always seem to be the bridesmaid and never the bride. And I sure as hell hated the loss of those two NU game trips over here to Maine to visit the Polar Bears and Mules.

All of these NESCAC teams represent wonderful schools for sure but do DIII hockey fans have any opinion this late in the season about whose reputation suffered the most by the NESCAC/ECAC-E divorce. Maybe no one suffered.

By the way, looking at the DIII Krach ranking all three NESCAC are rated behind NU and CS but still very high but their strength of schedule is not nearly as high as either ECAC-E school. One might conclude that continuing the interlock would have meant any of these five teams performance so far might be very different since they would have had to all play each other for conference points within their respective conferences. In that respect the split would seem to be a good idea--but what are there other implications on the larger DIII stage as it relates to the NCAA playoffs. Maybe long term it will have no impact.

What I am driving at is does anyone think that the NESCAC has any regrets or second thoughts for allowing the relationship to split. :confused:
 
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Snowballs chance in he%% they wont.....;-)

Ive watched a few USM games and I think they are a player or two away from being a strong team. But if Torris is on.....could be a spoiler for sure!




I think the reason it seems like USM is one or two players away is team depth....A team like Norwich can have injuries(like this year) but this is something USM can't have to be competitive with the top teams: USM's 2nd best D man(Gallo) was a forward to begin the year....Also to this point, the goal that really broke USM's back yesterday was a direct result of the 4th line of USM icing the puck.... A tired 4th line, against a fresh Norwich first line isn't a good match-up....
 
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Pregame talk with Coach McShane and George Commo just now before the UNE game, seems Emmond Bell broke his leg last night just before his short handed goal. I didn't see it, but apparantly he blocked a shot before picking up the puck for the goal. It is a stress fracture and maybe??? he will be back before play off time. Man, that guy just can't get a break (no pun intended). I thought he was kind of quiet after scoring his first goal of the season, Commo thought he was winded, turns out he was hurting.
Get better soon Emmond, we are thinking of you.
 
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Castleton-Norwich Game Saturday Feb 11th

Just noticed the game between Castleton & Norwich on Saturday Feb 11th starts at 7:00 PM. Both teams web site has 7:00 PM. That is a not a normal starting time on Saturdays. I will be out of town and checked the Norwich web site to see if NSN was doing the game. I believe NSN will be but the time they have is Friday 2-10 @ 7:30 PM:confused:
 
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We show the game starting at 4pm. I will check the contract tomorrow to verify. NSN is doing the game for Castleton.
 
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Cadet Crosby my mistake. I checked both teams schedules on USCHO team pages and it showed 7:00 PM. You are right that the game is at 4:00PM when you verify the start time on the schools home web sites. Seemed odd for a 7:00 PM game time.
 
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Cadet Crosby my mistake. I checked both teams schedules on USCHO team pages and it showed 7:00 PM. You are right that the game is at 4:00PM when you verify the start time on the schools home web sites. Seemed odd for a 7:00 PM game time.

This has happened before. USCHO had the wrong start time for the UMass game saying it was an hour later and this past weekend had the NU Wome's game staring just an hour before the Men hit the ice. Appreciate the sports information folks for checking into this.
 
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This has happened before. USCHO had the wrong start time for the UMass game saying it was an hour later and this past weekend had the NU Wome's game staring just an hour before the Men hit the ice. Appreciate the sports information folks for checking into this.

That would have been an interesting game to see. :D
 
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600 wins WOW its hard to anything 600 times......nice job for sure:D
 
Re: Norwich Cadets Hockey 2011-2012: In Search of a Title

For those that saw the UNE game, they know Goalie Chris Czarnota was pulled in the last five minuted of a shut out to allow the 3rd NU goalie some playing time. No problem as I was delighted that McShane is willing to spread the playing time around and giving everyone a shot on the ice.

However, now I am confused by Chris Czarnata's statistics as posted on USCHOL. :confused:

His combine statistic among ALL Div. III goalies posted on USCHOL show him having played in 6 games and posting three shutout. I figured when I saw that--if he left the game with five minutes to go--he got no credit for a shutout.

However, among just Div III goalies shown just within the ECAC-E statistics on USCHOL, they only credit him with having played in four games with three shut outs. Now here is where it really gets screwy, Chris' Norwich team statistics as posted on USHOL credits him with all six games--and with four shutouts--which I assume was reached by crediting Czarnota's 55 minutes between the pipes in what became a 60 minute shutout against UNE. In other words none of the statistics are consistent with one another. :confused: :confused:

I can understand him not getting a shut out for only playing 55 minutes in a 60 minute game. Has USCHOL just failed to punch all the right buttons. But I am curious about which is correct and is there anywhere one can find which of these three different statistics is correct?:confused:
 
Re: Norwich Cadets Hockey 2011-2012: In Search of a Title

For those that saw the UNE game, they know Goalie Chris Czarnota was pulled in the last five minuted of a shut out to allow the 3rd NU goalie some playing time. No problem as I was delighted that McShane is willing to spread the playing time around and giving everyone a shot on the ice.

However, now I am confused by Chris Czarnata's statistics as posted on USCHOL. :confused:

His combine statistic among ALL Div. III goalies posted on USCHOL show him having played in 6 games and posting three shutout. I figured when I saw that--if he left the game with five minutes to go--he got no credit for a shutout.

However, among just Div III goalies shown just within the ECAC-E statistics on USCHOL, they only credit him with having played in four games with three shut outs. Now here is where it really gets screwy, Chris' Norwich team statistics as posted on USHOL credits him with all six games--and with four shutouts--which I assume was reached by crediting Czarnota's 55 minutes between the pipes in what became a 60 minute shutout against UNE. In other words none of the statistics are consistent with one another. :confused: :confused:

I can understand him not getting a shut out for only playing 55 minutes in a 60 minute game. Has USCHOL just failed to punch all the right buttons. But I am curious about which is correct and is there anywhere one can find which of these three different statistics is correct?:confused:


Prez and Cadet Crosby know all.............
 
Re: Norwich Cadets Hockey 2011-2012: In Search of a Title

For those that saw the UNE game, they know Goalie Chris Czarnota was pulled in the last five minuted of a shut out to allow the 3rd NU goalie some playing time. No problem as I was delighted that McShane is willing to spread the playing time around and giving everyone a shot on the ice.

However, now I am confused by Chris Czarnata's statistics as posted on USCHOL. :confused:

His combine statistic among ALL Div. III goalies posted on USCHOL show him having played in 6 games and posting three shutout. I figured when I saw that--if he left the game with five minutes to go--he got no credit for a shutout.

However, among just Div III goalies shown just within the ECAC-E statistics on USCHOL, they only credit him with having played in four games with three shut outs. Now here is where it really gets screwy, Chris' Norwich team statistics as posted on USHOL credits him with all six games--and with four shutouts--which I assume was reached by crediting Czarnota's 55 minutes between the pipes in what became a 60 minute shutout against UNE. In other words none of the statistics are consistent with one another. :confused: :confused:

I can understand him not getting a shut out for only playing 55 minutes in a 60 minute game. Has USCHOL just failed to punch all the right buttons. But I am curious about which is correct and is there anywhere one can find which of these three different statistics is correct?:confused:



It's a team shutout.....Neither player gets credit for the shutout: just the team....
 
Re: Norwich Cadets Hockey 2011-2012: In Search of a Title

Derek, are you coming down with the men's team this weekend?

Unfortunately no....Taking a much needed weekend off and heading down to the Garden on Sunday to watch the Rangers kick the &^*% out of the Flyers then heading out to LI to watch the Super Bowl at some of my Oswego roommates' place.

I wanted to come to Friday's game but I just don't have a way of getting down there. I don't want to drive my new car down there and back and then leave Saturday morning and drive it all the way down to NYC and out to LI and back Monday...too many miles on the new car.
 
Re: Norwich Cadets Hockey 2011-2012: In Search of a Title

Unfortunately no....Taking a much needed weekend off and heading down to the Garden on Sunday to watch the Rangers kick the &^*% out of the Flyers then heading out to LI to watch the Super Bowl at some of my Oswego roommates' place.

I wanted to come to Friday's game but I just don't have a way of getting down there. I don't want to drive my new car down there and back and then leave Saturday morning and drive it all the way down to NYC and out to LI and back Monday...too many miles on the new car.

"He doesn't drive it, he just wipes it with a diaper."
 
Re: Norwich Cadets Hockey 2011-2012: In Search of a Title

Unfortunately no....Taking a much needed weekend off and heading down to the Garden on Sunday to watch the Rangers kick the &^*% out of the Flyers then heading out to LI to watch the Super Bowl at some of my Oswego roommates' place.

I wanted to come to Friday's game but I just don't have a way of getting down there. I don't want to drive my new car down there and back and then leave Saturday morning and drive it all the way down to NYC and out to LI and back Monday...too many miles on the new car.

Derek - living in Northfield, you soon learn that if you want to go anywhere you will put miles on the car. Heck, there are people who work in the Upper Valley and in Burlington who put 100 miles per day on their cars.
 
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