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Norwich 2022-23 Back to Normal (ish)

***JCB*** said:
Well the slow team that can't score is back. Can anyone make sense of this? Zero goals! Middlebury is last in the Nescac. LAST! How do you beat Elmira and tie Hobart and then put up the stinker I just watched I mean come on. Again Middlebury is a LAST place team! I know it doesn't make sense to some of you and I was fine eating crow last weekend but something is off with this program. You don't have these peaks and valleys if you're a top team. You have to be able to score a goal against a LAST place team!

On another note it's really sad to see the Middlebury rink empty. I guess i'm getting nostalgic.

Disgusted. Good night
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As an oz fan, completely understand how ur feeling right now here's hoping both our teams figure it out and make the national tourney.
 
Not trying to make excuses but Tuesday’s game was a classic trap game.

Play two really strong opponents at home and exert a lot of energy, physicality and emotions while going 1-0-1.

Have one day of practice on Monday and then go play a last place non-league game on the road. No one is “getting up” for the Middlebury game these days for a lot of reasons.

It’s definitely tough to ride the inconsistencies but it’s really tough to win in today’s D3 hockey landscape. Look at St. Norbert and Oswego, those were two teams that were “at or near the top” for a long time too with Norwich and they are both having “pedestrian” seasons again by their standards.

These are the types of games that Norwich will look back on though if they don’t win the NEHC or make the finals and miss out on a ncaa playoff bid.

Even with the success of this past weekend, scoring still remains the issue. 4 goals over a 3 game span isn’t a long term recipe for success.
 
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***JCB*** said:
Well the slow team that can't score is back. Can anyone make sense of this? Zero goals! Middlebury is last in the Nescac. LAST! How do you beat Elmira and tie Hobart and then put up the stinker I just watched I mean come on. Again Middlebury is a LAST place team! I know it doesn't make sense to some of you and I was fine eating crow last weekend but something is off with this program. You don't have these peaks and valleys if you're a top team. You have to be able to score a goal against a LAST place team!

On another note it's really sad to see the Middlebury rink empty. I guess i'm getting nostalgic.

Disgusted. Good night
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Turnovers (being generous, a lot looked like giveaways) in the neutral zone leading to rushes. Not picking up people around the net. I can get being fatigued after the weekend, but they could have played 6-8 fresh players. Could have clogged up the middle. Could have, should have, just didn’t.
24 shots.

when your only realistic shot is an at-large bid, you’d better win your out of conference games….
 
PrezdeJohnson09 said:
Not trying to make excuses but Tuesday’s game was a classic trap game.

Play two really strong opponents at home and exert a lot of energy, physicality and emotions while going 1-0-1.

Have one day of practice on Monday and then go play a last place non-league game on the road. No one is “getting up” for the Middlebury game these days for a lot of reasons.

It’s definitely tough to ride the inconsistencies but it’s really tough to win in today’s D3 hockey landscape. Look at St. Norbert and Oswego, those were two teams that were “at or near the top” for a long time too with Norwich and they are both having “pedestrian” seasons again by their standards.

These are the types of games that Norwich will look back on though if they don’t win the NEHC or make the finals and miss out on a ncaa playoff bid.

Even with the success of this past weekend, scoring still remains the issue. 4 goals over a 3 game span isn’t a long term recipe for success.
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I agree but the season isn't that long (game wise) and you have to be UP for all game or the season gets shorter with each loss.
 
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Didn't realize the large disparity between the home and away record until this morning. 1-4-1 on the road this season with six of their final eight games away from Kreitzberg is a tough road to hoe.

It's likely looking like win the auto-bid or go home right now and unless they can figure out their road struggles, they could be staring down a road quarterfinal game.

One of Hobart (not likely), Elmira, Skidmore, Norwich or Babson is going to be staring down a road quarterfinal game and an awfully tough matchup at the #4 seed just to try and make it to the semifinals.
 
Start of some road trips this weekend. Looking at the schedule I can see them going 5-3 at best, more likely 4-4. Currently in 2nd and I think we will still see one home playoff game, no more. Just too inconsistent.
If they played every game with the intensity of the Elmira-Hobart weekend, they would be fine but there is still something that keeps that from happening.
 
I think we must keep in mind that this a very young team with only two seniors and for those freshmen it is still a big jump to go from juniors(playing against players that are relatively the same age)to playing against 23-24 aged players-I"m not making excuses but I expect to see them play better moving forward
 
First off I was off this thread for a few days ... Not trying in anyway to dodge the Middlebury game... Although I wish I could.
I posted on Facebook what Derek said here ... Trap Game ... But Derek also said that is no excuse and on FB Dave Maxwell added that Championship teams don't get trapped.
Tonight was a positive step ... J&W is a must win and three of the four goals came on the PP ... UMB tomorrow will be a a bigger test and another Must win.
Expecting the positive.
 
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PuckVoice said:
Tonight was a positive step ... J&W is a must win and three of the four goals came on the PP ... UMB tomorrow will be a a bigger test and another Must win.
Expecting the positive.
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Every game from here on out is a must win. Miss you George

Steve Day NU 71
 
Wouldn’t have to be a Kurtis, but that would be nice. Maybe a Rick Cleaver type.
Or maybe a Toza to get some life…..
 
I think it’s time to pull back the curtain. I happen to hear a lot, so it’s time to put some stuff out there. Here are some facts contributing to the current struggles. Norwich is in a Covid-influenced financial deficit. The “solution” the administration came up with was to increase enrollment while lowering the discount rate. Ellsworth recruits are paying 10-20k more per year than McShane’s were. I know directly how many recruits have gone to Hobart, Endicott, etc because it was far cheaper. Even better, the current plan is to not aid international students at all for incoming 2024 enrollees. Brilliant.

Additionally, Norwich hockey is woefully underfunded compared to the other national powers in men’s hockey. Sticks, equipment, etc. Again, this is factual not speculative.

The university does not currently allow freshmen to live off campus. So, 21 year old freshman hockey players are forced to live in dorms. Another turn off.

Add these factors up, combined with a town where you can’t even get anything to eat after 9:00 or 10:00 pm and recruiting has become HARD.

I know it’s easy to say Cam doesn’t “like” offense or doesn’t recruit offensive skill well, but everything I just said is 100% true.

If you don’t believe it, ask any person in athletics at Norwich.
 
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***JCB*** said:
Great atmosphere at the women's game today and that's all I have to say.
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Is the simultaneous “collapse” of the women’s program Ellsworth’s fault too, or maybe everything in my previous post about institutional challenges is accurate. I mean, they’re coached by an ELITE offensive talent in Sophie Leclerc-Doherty and they’re having the same kind of struggles…
 
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