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Northeastern Huskies 2014 Offseason: Resurrection's Over....Now What?

Re: Northeastern Huskies 2014 Offseason: Resurrection's Over....Now What?

Anybody have the numbers of players drafted by league? I am to lazy to look it up myself.

Hockey East had 21 players selected. Big Ten and ECAC had 13. Not sure how the rest of the NCAA breaks down. Of the 210 total, 62 players are going the college route.

I went ahead and did the math on number by Junior/Major Junior/Current team. My counts are as follows:

International (Russia, Sweden, Czech, etc)- 52 players picked
OHL- 41 players picked
WHL- 37
USHL- 30
QMJHL- 17
US Prep HS- 13
NCAA- 5
BCHL- 5
OJHL- 4
AJHL/USPHL- 2
CCHL/NAHL- 1
 
Re: Northeastern Huskies 2014 Offseason: Resurrection's Over....Now What?

Hockey East had 21 players selected. Big Ten and ECAC had 13. Not sure how the rest of the NCAA breaks down. Of the 210 total, 62 players are going the college route.

I went ahead and did the math on number by Junior/Major Junior/Current team. My counts are as follows:

International (Russia, Sweden, Czech, etc)- 52 players picked
OHL- 41 players picked
WHL- 37
USHL- 30
QMJHL- 17
US Prep HS- 13
NCAA- 5
BCHL- 5
OJHL- 4
AJHL/USPHL- 2
CCHL/NAHL- 1

It is interesting. Obviously the OHL and WHL will lead the way along with Intl players. Followed by the USHL. I was really wondering about that third tier. NCAA/Prep/other Canadian leagues. Wanted to make the argument how we are wasting our time with the league that Sikura comes from, but hard to do it when the BCHL has just 1 more kid! That being said, does not really change my opinion yet. Neither the BCHL or the OJHL/AJHL/USPHL/NAHL are feeder leagues to the pros anyway. They are really for kids who need more time develop and want that college education.
 
Re: Northeastern Huskies 2014 Offseason: Resurrection's Over....Now What?

It is interesting. Obviously the OHL and WHL will lead the way along with Intl players. Followed by the USHL. I was really wondering about that third tier. NCAA/Prep/other Canadian leagues. Wanted to make the argument how we are wasting our time with the league that Sikura comes from, but hard to do it when the BCHL has just 1 more kid! That being said, does not really change my opinion yet. Neither the BCHL or the OJHL/AJHL/USPHL/NAHL are feeder leagues to the pros anyway. They are really for kids who need more time develop and want that college education.

The NAHL has developed quite a rep as a goalie hotspot, at least for college prospects. Even with Ruck playing in the USHL and arriving next season, I would not be opposed to JM dipping into that talent pool as we await the arrival of Cayden Primeau. As for the other leagues, I am of the opinion that talent is there to be had, it just has to be found. I firmly believe Sikura will be an impact top 6 forward for us and will help immensely right from the get go. Needs to get bigger and stronger, but the kid has talent. From the CCHL we got our best faceoff man last year in Dalen Hedges. I know you and many posters disagree on how his season was last year, but I think it was a good first step. Year Two I anticipate growth from him. Jury is still out on the USPHL, we'll see how Owens acclimates to the speed of the NCAA game this season.

Of course the players coming from these leagues may not be top 75 ranked for the draft, but I think that as they develop in these leagues, maybe staying their full Junior eligibility rather than just one year or so, there is a good chance they will be solid NCAA players. And in reality, that is what JM is looking for. Sure, draftees are nice, but a team of Cody Ferrieros (draftees who do not pan out) will not be as good as a team of Mike Szmatulas and Clay Witts (Look at Union this past season too as an example).
 
Re: Northeastern Huskies 2014 Offseason: Resurrection's Over....Now What?

Found an interesting perspective from before the draft regarding whether or not the Kings should draft (should have drafted) Nolan Stevens. Stevens is accelerating to join NU this fall, and this is what this particular author had to say:

"While Nolan Stevens is eligible for this June’s NHL Entry Draft, he is projected to go undrafted as he is nowhere to be found on any of Central Scouting’s draft lists, which is a major mistake. Stevens is a gritty center with size (6’2”) and great hockey acumen (the “bloodlines” argument is valid here) that while not adept offensively can contribute in other facets of the game. Investing a late round pick based on Stevens’ connection to the organization and Southern California would not be a bad idea. This would be far from a “sympathy” pick as Stevens will be playing college hockey next season in one of the nation’s toughest conferences and has the size and grit Dean Lombardi loves in his forwards"..."Taking a flyer on Stevens with a sixth or seventh round pick is a no risk, medium reward investment. If he plays well in the next few years at Northeastern the Kings could have a very solid bottom six forward at the next level. "

Sounds like a really good 3rd line type of player. Huskies01 has previously proposed a big/grinder-esque line of Reid/Stevens/Stevens (All-American line), and it sounds like Nolan fits that bill to a T. Sounds like someone NU can eventually use on the PK as well.
 
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As always a very glass is ½ full kind of dribble from a lot of people <40 who have been conditioned to just see the world as a big blue happy marble. QUOTE]

Rossi

I loved this analogy. Your post was longer than many of my term papers, (written before word processors were invented) but it was interesting and thought provoking.

I'd be curious to know when you were graduated, and what was your major that prepared you for a career as a Money manager?

BTW Thanks for taken care of so many Co-Ops. Hopefully you'll get some permanent employees from the group. For those of us interested in things other than Hockey, what has been your experience in this area? Are they Business majors or do they come from other areas. Personally, I'm still getting used to being described as a "DMSB" (D'Amore McKim School of Business) after so many years of being abbreviated as BA or CBA.:)


Thanks,

I was first and foremost a hockey player but in 3 years as a DIV 3 transfer, I never played in game or even suited up, but gave 100% in every practice and did my in job supporting the team and Fern and did whatever was asked of me.

I was a dual major Political Science and Economics with a minor in History graduating a proud Husky in the very late 1980's, I did all of my initial co-ops at John Hancock Life initially working indirectly for a new VP who was hired to change the brand and marketing of that company in 1984. He later went on to become the CFO, I became a co-op at a time when many NU co-ops were afforded the opportunity to work in finance regardless of major if they had aptitude, recommendations and the grades. It was also a time when better placements were divided out based on your performance, period. Example: top Engineers were at places like Thermo Electron, Boise, Wang and Apollo Computer and the more marginal ones might be working for the MBTA or Radio Shack.

When not on co-op I worked nights on the now defunct Boston Exchange at night as s a pink sheet trader working for many of the firms that later went belly up in the 1990’s, including those sensationalized in the media and press and I had 1st hand dealings with many of the most unsavory characters that were created by the lax regulation of the 1980’s. Upon graduation, I moved form Mission Hill to Kenmore Square and attended BU Graduate School of Management (day school) and received both an MPA (MET) and MBA with a concentration in government finance.

I continued at JH but in their funds group at 101 Huntington. After my graduate education, I worked as an Analyst with responsibility for trading JH Regional Bank Fund, later I went to work at a few hedge funds in Fairfield County but returned to Boston after few years, I worked in various roles with several trustees and Boston based money mangers over the next decade and now work as a Consultant and RIA to the retirement community and TPA’s with an emphasis on health/welfare, pension funds and endowments primarily for educational and not for profit organizations (hospitals and health service organizations) and most recently have worked as a expert witness for the FCU (Financial Crimes Unit) for the US Dept. of Justice. I obtained several industry designations that are in my opinion far more valuable in my direct day to day work than any of my knowledge gained in my graduate education including several NASD lic’s a C.F.P., CLU, CEBS and most importantly a CFA. However, I will always value those NU undergraduate degrees and experiences substantially, as the school and my program of study taught me how to think, organize my thoughts and delegate work. I was asked to read and write extensively in these undergraduate programs and I believe it to be the basis of the development of my ability to do analysis. any one can plug the numbers into the formula it's interpreting the results and being able to convey those results to a layman with deep pockets that make the difference, statistically the NU I attended was a fairly easy place to get into, and conversely it was an equally as difficult a place to get out of, with unreal attrition rates in some programs that neared 70% in 1985 it had nearly 60k students and you were a number and you had better find a way on your own because nobody was going to help you, just registering for your classes took initiative and innate ability. LOL!

So, "Yes", statistically today most of the students we have are limited by strict corp. regulations that seem to allow only the most obvious majors, which I think is quite short sided but a companies today seem to have less time for development and risk, that said however, some of todays students are quite stellar, and as a whole perfoam as well or better collectively than the odd lot of kids that I came up with, but I really long for the days when my co-ops test standardized test scores were perhaps more moderate but their desire and tenacity to make a profit was not marginalized by learned passive behaviors spawned in an educational system that makes them fearful of making mistakes and giving incorrect answers in a world in which they believe the results of the efforts of your labor should all be divvied out equally. Your life and work results are not guaranteed and its not the job of your government or your employer to level the playing field that's your job as a human being in Darwin's world!
 
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Re: Northeastern Huskies 2014 Offseason: Resurrection's Over....Now What?

How do you think he'll do when he can play? Stud at MC and in the EJHL, though undersized. Didn't do much under Quinn at bu though.

From my viewing at BU: he is a good, small defensive forward. Has limited offensive upside but should be a solid 3rd liner for his entire career. He won't win many individual awards but not all 12 forwards are brought in to do that.
 
I think if he's given right line mates he could do well - 10-12 goal scorer in HE by jr/sr year.

I don't think it'd be in a team's best interest to put the type of linemates who would create that many opportunities with a guy who had 1 goal in 28 games as a freshman.

Don't get me wrong, I wish him well, he just isn't the type of player you can expect double digit goals out of in Hockey East.
 
Re: Northeastern Huskies 2014 Offseason: Resurrection's Over....Now What?

I don't think it'd be in a team's best interest to put the type of linemates who would create that many opportunities with a guy who had 1 goal in 28 games as a freshman.

Don't get me wrong, I wish him well, he just isn't the type of player you can expect double digit goals out of in Hockey East.

I disagree. I think he could blossom given the right opportunity and as an older junior-senior which he will be. He will be a 22 year-old sophomore when he next laces 'em up in Hockey East.

http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/201...ard-brendan-collier-transfers-to-northeastern
 
Re: Northeastern Huskies 2014 Offseason: Resurrection's Over....Now What?

Collier definitely looked better over the last few games of the season for BU last year. I was surprised that he was cut versus some other forwards. So I do agree that he could develop into a solid 3rd liner with potential for 10 goals or so.
 
Re: Northeastern Huskies 2014 Offseason: Resurrection's Over....Now What?

agreed. hope he burns BU everytime he plays them. ot beanpot winner.

I'd be very ok with this! :D It sounds like Collier at least has some potential to still develop and contribute, which is good to hear. I don't fully expect him to play out his eligibility, but we will be looking for some new 3rd line blood once Reid and Torin graduate.
 
Re: Northeastern Huskies 2014 Offseason: Resurrection's Over....Now What?

Add Zach Aston-Reese to the list of NHL development camp attendees (Chicago).

Edit: Also add JStevens and NStevens (and ditto Chicago)
 
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