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NMU vs. Miami
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Re: NMU vs. Miami
Don't even begin preaching to me!!! You have no idea how pathetic our team has started and are out of touch completely with the level of frustration experienced by 10 years of kissing our sisters!!!
Yes, expectations are high!!! They should be, especially when set as such by the coaching staff and players alike.
NMU should be prepared to come of the gate winning no matter the schedule, especially when it contains games at home regardless of opponent. I also believe that too much credit is given to Bemidji and less that of the poor play of NMU. Bemidji IS NOT as good as their weekend in Marquette might indicate!!!
That being said, I hope for the sake of clowns like you that NMU can knock Miami down off their high horse. They also aren't as good as their record or recent history may indicate. These are games that yes, I expected NMU to sweep at the beginning of the season. They have the talent to do it, do they have the drive to finish it? I think so!!!
Go Wildcats!!!
Here's the deal folks if you are upset with this start than your expectations are WAY TOO HIGH!!Bemidji is the real deal and if you expect a sweep of them your crazy and to split between two WCHA schools is acceptable. To panic and go crazy because you are 1-2-1 is ridiculous. Ok you lost 5-0 deal with it, you lost to a team that is loaded and was in the frozen four last year.
Im embarrassed for those NMU fans that get it and have to deal with this. The schedule for you is tough to start the year, build upon it and grow. It isn't like you had a cupcake schedule.
Miami played 8 of their first 10 against ranked teams I said before the year started I would of been happy with a 6-4 start and I have hopes of a return trip to the frozen four. You have to realize your expectations and the fact that the team gets better throughout the season and when you play tough OOC opponents to start it makes things more difficult and only helps you as the season goes on. Be realistic folks, those bashing this program are not realistic, it really isn't that hard. Those of you that do, and you know who you are, keep your chins up you have a good team and a good program don't let these haters get you down.
Us at Miami who know hockey and know the game respect your program and know good things go on up there.
Don't even begin preaching to me!!! You have no idea how pathetic our team has started and are out of touch completely with the level of frustration experienced by 10 years of kissing our sisters!!!
Yes, expectations are high!!! They should be, especially when set as such by the coaching staff and players alike.NMU should be prepared to come of the gate winning no matter the schedule, especially when it contains games at home regardless of opponent. I also believe that too much credit is given to Bemidji and less that of the poor play of NMU. Bemidji IS NOT as good as their weekend in Marquette might indicate!!!
That being said, I hope for the sake of clowns like you that NMU can knock Miami down off their high horse. They also aren't as good as their record or recent history may indicate. These are games that yes, I expected NMU to sweep at the beginning of the season. They have the talent to do it, do they have the drive to finish it? I think so!!!
Go Wildcats!!!
owslachief
occupe toi de tes oignons
Re: NMU vs. Miami
Conspiracy theory:
The author of this thread also started the Fire Rick Comley movement 4 years ago.
Conspiracy theory:
The author of this thread also started the Fire Rick Comley movement 4 years ago.
boot_walt_kyle
Registered User
Re: NMU vs. Miami
NO! Our expectations are not too high for this team. This team has been sold to its fans as a winner with a strong base that is meant to win now. I'm not so much mad about getting beat by Bemidji St., as I am by the fact that we had less than 10 shots all game when not on the power play. Our defense has left our goalie out to dry in 3 of the 4 games we've played. Our goalie who was supposed to be one of the best in the CCHA looks far from it. I am upset because this team that was supposed to be a winner looks like more of the same old crap. I am upset because for the last 3 years people have been telling me, "just wait until these young players mature." Well, those young players have matured and it looks like we are going to get to see another ok finish possibly concluded by a 3rd or 4th place finish at the Joe. Well, to me that isn't good enough this year.
Here's the deal folks if you are upset with this start than your expectations are WAY TOO HIGH!!
Im embarrassed for those NMU fans that get it and have to deal with this. The schedule for you is tough to start the year, build upon it and grow. It isn't like you had a cupcake schedule.
Miami played 8 of their first 10 against ranked teams I said before the year started I would of been happy with a 6-4 start and I have hopes of a return trip to the frozen four. You have to realize your expectations and the fact that the team gets better throughout the season and when you play tough OOC opponents to start it makes things more difficult and only helps you as the season goes on. Be realistic folks, those bashing this program are not realistic, it really isn't that hard. Those of you that do, and you know who you are, keep your chins up you have a good team and a good program don't let these haters get you down.
Us at Miami who know hockey and know the game respect your program and know good things go on up there.
NO! Our expectations are not too high for this team. This team has been sold to its fans as a winner with a strong base that is meant to win now. I'm not so much mad about getting beat by Bemidji St., as I am by the fact that we had less than 10 shots all game when not on the power play. Our defense has left our goalie out to dry in 3 of the 4 games we've played. Our goalie who was supposed to be one of the best in the CCHA looks far from it. I am upset because this team that was supposed to be a winner looks like more of the same old crap. I am upset because for the last 3 years people have been telling me, "just wait until these young players mature." Well, those young players have matured and it looks like we are going to get to see another ok finish possibly concluded by a 3rd or 4th place finish at the Joe. Well, to me that isn't good enough this year.
boot_walt_kyle
Registered User
Re: NMU vs. Miami
Nope, I couldn't give a crap less about MSU. One of my least favorite teams in the CCHA/Big Ten.
Nope, I couldn't give a crap less about MSU. One of my least favorite teams in the CCHA/Big Ten.
owslachief
occupe toi de tes oignons
boot_walt_kyle
Registered User
RaceBoarder
Waiting for the Snow to fly...
Re: NMU vs. Miami
I just recieved some inside information on this team...
WE HAVE PLAYED 4 GAMES!!!! WE STILL HAVE 32 TO GO!!!!
That is 1/9 of the season folks... There is still tons of hockey to be played...
Ok, so we lost a rivalry game where anything and everything can happen... Why not give credit for getting the Duluth monkey off our backs? And then there was this weekends dissapointment (Yes, I'm dissapointed, but I'm not claiming the sky is falling
)... Again we are 11.1% through our season... Do you walk out of a movie if the opening sequence is not as exciting as you expected?
Look, I believe that this team SHOULD do something this post season... The excuse of being young isn't valid anymore... BUT IT'S NOT EVEN THE END OF OCTOBER PEOPLE!!! Give the season and it's story lines a chance to develop... In the sports world, things can change drastically as a season develops... Just do well in the **** conference, and we won't have to worry about these pesky non-conference games....
Looking ahead to this weekend... Well, we're playing the #1 team in the country... I guess that means that if NMU gets swept, we're terrible and we should disband the program... I mean, that would give us a 0-3-1 record against Top 15 teams
This series holds almost a rivalry feel, at least as a fan, IMO... Ever since the Hetland Chicken deal, both teams have become familiar with one another and they want to show the other side up... Let's not forget that NMU was 3-1-1 in Ohio last season... Overall in the past 3 seasons, it's an even split at 5-5-1... That can't be sitting well with Rico and Co... I mean, Miami being a national powerhouse and all Walt must not know how to coach in big games...
Realistically, I can see a split.. Miami has a 13 hour bus ride, which is never easy... This is assuming that NMU has shaken the flu bug by the weekend (more excuses, I know )... Even with a single point on the weekend, I am happy... Reichard is a wall, allowing well under 2 goals per game... He has a solid D in front of him as well... I'm assuming him and Knapp will split this weekend?
I just recieved some inside information on this team...
WE HAVE PLAYED 4 GAMES!!!! WE STILL HAVE 32 TO GO!!!!
That is 1/9 of the season folks... There is still tons of hockey to be played...
Ok, so we lost a rivalry game where anything and everything can happen... Why not give credit for getting the Duluth monkey off our backs? And then there was this weekends dissapointment (Yes, I'm dissapointed, but I'm not claiming the sky is falling
)... Again we are 11.1% through our season... Do you walk out of a movie if the opening sequence is not as exciting as you expected?Look, I believe that this team SHOULD do something this post season... The excuse of being young isn't valid anymore... BUT IT'S NOT EVEN THE END OF OCTOBER PEOPLE!!! Give the season and it's story lines a chance to develop... In the sports world, things can change drastically as a season develops... Just do well in the **** conference, and we won't have to worry about these pesky non-conference games....
Looking ahead to this weekend... Well, we're playing the #1 team in the country... I guess that means that if NMU gets swept, we're terrible and we should disband the program... I mean, that would give us a 0-3-1 record against Top 15 teams
This series holds almost a rivalry feel, at least as a fan, IMO... Ever since the Hetland Chicken deal, both teams have become familiar with one another and they want to show the other side up... Let's not forget that NMU was 3-1-1 in Ohio last season... Overall in the past 3 seasons, it's an even split at 5-5-1... That can't be sitting well with Rico and Co... I mean, Miami being a national powerhouse and all
Walt must not know how to coach in big games...Realistically, I can see a split.. Miami has a 13 hour bus ride, which is never easy... This is assuming that NMU has shaken the flu bug by the weekend (more excuses, I know
)... Even with a single point on the weekend, I am happy... Reichard is a wall, allowing well under 2 goals per game... He has a solid D in front of him as well... I'm assuming him and Knapp will split this weekend?Re: NMU vs. Miami
I won't think of speaking for rhm, but it seems he has a lot of respect for NMU (as do all serious Miami fans) and merely thinks it is too early to make the call this year. We had a great time with the NMUers in Washington--they were our biggest allies. If NMU sweeps Miami (a definite possibility) then I guess everything will be different on here, but it still may be too early to tell. I sure am glad Miami did not give up after NMU took them out last year.
And I don't see anyone on here saying Miami is some "national powerhouse" as Raceboarder said. But there is one statement I do not understand Mojo, "They also aren't as good as their record or recent history may indicate." Huh? Teams are exactly what their records are. I won't go into Miami's accomplishments in "recent history", say, the last four years, but you are what your record is, nothing more, nothing less. If you meant Miami is not that good this year, you may be right, but most of us are going to wait and see how it plays out.
Again, we like NMU and if we have to lose, personally I'd rather it be NMU than some others, that's for sure. Peace.
Don't even begin preaching to me!!! You have no idea how pathetic our team has started and are out of touch completely with the level of frustration experienced by 10 years of kissing our sisters!!!
NMU should be prepared to come of the gate winning no matter the schedule, especially when it contains games at home regardless of opponent. I also believe that too much credit is given to Bemidji and less that of the poor play of NMU. Bemidji IS NOT as good as their weekend in Marquette might indicate!!!
That being said, I hope for the sake of clowns like you that NMU can knock Miami down off their high horse. They also aren't as good as their record or recent history may indicate. These are games that yes, I expected NMU to sweep at the beginning of the season. They have the talent to do it, do they have the drive to finish it? I think so!!!
Go Wildcats!!!
I won't think of speaking for rhm, but it seems he has a lot of respect for NMU (as do all serious Miami fans) and merely thinks it is too early to make the call this year. We had a great time with the NMUers in Washington--they were our biggest allies. If NMU sweeps Miami (a definite possibility) then I guess everything will be different on here, but it still may be too early to tell. I sure am glad Miami did not give up after NMU took them out last year.
And I don't see anyone on here saying Miami is some "national powerhouse" as Raceboarder said. But there is one statement I do not understand Mojo, "They also aren't as good as their record or recent history may indicate." Huh? Teams are exactly what their records are. I won't go into Miami's accomplishments in "recent history", say, the last four years, but you are what your record is, nothing more, nothing less. If you meant Miami is not that good this year, you may be right, but most of us are going to wait and see how it plays out.
Again, we like NMU and if we have to lose, personally I'd rather it be NMU than some others, that's for sure. Peace.
Re: NMU vs. Miami
Nicely stated Redeagle. My opinion is formed not from the fact that NMU is 1-2-1 but the manner in which they have played to get there...like #2...you know poop, dung, fecal matter, etc...
I expect a more focused effort because although the season is only 1/9 complete (per Raceboarder) NMU cannot allow itself to dig a hole to start the season with roadtrips to Notre Dame and tOSU looming.
If NMU doesn't respond in the W/L column soon we could be looking at 1-8-1 once again and a monumental effort to climb back into contention. This is the syndicated show we are tired of watching. There aren't very many people around Marquette in the mood for watching reruns.
I'm not saying NMU can't rebound and perform as expected, they just NEED TO and SOON!!! It starts this weekend!!! They can do and I believe will perform as expected!!!
NMU 4-3 Friday
NMU 5-2 Saturday
Finally, I conversed with former NMU netminder and Marquette product Dan Ragusett last evening. For those who don't know he is our last goaltender to help guide NMU to an NCAA tourney berth. His is a tremendous story which possibly our current team could draw inspiration from.
Raggy went from a walk on local boy with little chance of playing time to starting goaltender who broke records prior to Craig Kowalski and Toumas Tarkki's arrival. Many overlooked Dan as he didn't appear to have the talent of many others in his position. Most didn't realize the heart he had beating inside his chest and the competitive fire and will to win. He shared this will with his teammates and they played to win and wouldn't accept losing as an option.
The 1998-1999 team was filled with role players and one very dominant line which consisted of Buddy Smith, J.P. Vigier and Roger Trudeau. They earned the mantra of hardest working team in College Hockey and took the CCHA by storm. Everybody knew their roles and played to them as a team.
While they were one and done in the NCAA tourney after giving Boston College fits in Madison, it should not be lost on us the accomplishment of the 1998-1999 team. 2-3 years removed from the worst period in NMU history they had served notice that NMU was back on the scene. Who would have guessed that even with an expansion from 12 to 16 teams NMU would never return to those greener pastures again...
Until this year of course!!!
Nicely stated Redeagle. My opinion is formed not from the fact that NMU is 1-2-1 but the manner in which they have played to get there...like #2...you know poop, dung, fecal matter, etc...
I expect a more focused effort because although the season is only 1/9 complete (per Raceboarder) NMU cannot allow itself to dig a hole to start the season with roadtrips to Notre Dame and tOSU looming.
If NMU doesn't respond in the W/L column soon we could be looking at 1-8-1 once again and a monumental effort to climb back into contention. This is the syndicated show we are tired of watching. There aren't very many people around Marquette in the mood for watching reruns.
I'm not saying NMU can't rebound and perform as expected, they just NEED TO and SOON!!! It starts this weekend!!! They can do and I believe will perform as expected!!!
NMU 4-3 Friday
NMU 5-2 Saturday
Finally, I conversed with former NMU netminder and Marquette product Dan Ragusett last evening. For those who don't know he is our last goaltender to help guide NMU to an NCAA tourney berth. His is a tremendous story which possibly our current team could draw inspiration from.
Raggy went from a walk on local boy with little chance of playing time to starting goaltender who broke records prior to Craig Kowalski and Toumas Tarkki's arrival. Many overlooked Dan as he didn't appear to have the talent of many others in his position. Most didn't realize the heart he had beating inside his chest and the competitive fire and will to win. He shared this will with his teammates and they played to win and wouldn't accept losing as an option.
The 1998-1999 team was filled with role players and one very dominant line which consisted of Buddy Smith, J.P. Vigier and Roger Trudeau. They earned the mantra of hardest working team in College Hockey and took the CCHA by storm. Everybody knew their roles and played to them as a team.
While they were one and done in the NCAA tourney after giving Boston College fits in Madison, it should not be lost on us the accomplishment of the 1998-1999 team. 2-3 years removed from the worst period in NMU history they had served notice that NMU was back on the scene. Who would have guessed that even with an expansion from 12 to 16 teams NMU would never return to those greener pastures again...
Until this year of course!!!
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redhawkman10
Behind the bench
Re: NMU vs. Miami
Very well said, you are right and sometimes put my own words into better context. But I was merely sticking up for the program, and feel sorry for the loyal fans who get it but to go off the deep end after 4 games seems ludicris to me.
Thanks- again good luck to NMU, always enjoy their people. Well most of them...
Very well said, you are right and sometimes put my own words into better context.
But I was merely sticking up for the program, and feel sorry for the loyal fans who get it but to go off the deep end after 4 games seems ludicris to me.Thanks- again good luck to NMU, always enjoy their people. Well most of them...
Re: NMU vs. Miami
Very clever...I'm sure you laughed yourself silly writing such drivel!!! You may have even pee'd yourself. You wouldn't be worth my time if I didn't like dealing with pompous idiots like you!!! Bring it on, I'm sure you are filled with plenty of other compliments...
Very clever...I'm sure you laughed yourself silly writing such drivel!!! You may have even pee'd yourself. You wouldn't be worth my time if I didn't like dealing with pompous idiots like you!!! Bring it on, I'm sure you are filled with plenty of other compliments...
boot_walt_kyle
Registered User
Re: NMU vs. Miami
You'd be happy taking one point?!? YOU'D BE HAPPY TAKING ONE POINT?!? If we take one point, that means NMU is starting the season off 1-4-1. 1-4-1 is not acceptable for this team in any way shape or form. NMU has to travel to Ohio State and Notre Dame after this weekend. Only a few games into the season, and NMU has already set itself into a must-win position for this weekend. Anything less than two points will not cut it.
Realistically, I can see a split.. Miami has a 13 hour bus ride, which is never easy... This is assuming that NMU has shaken the flu bug by the weekend (more excuses, I know
You'd be happy taking one point?!? YOU'D BE HAPPY TAKING ONE POINT?!? If we take one point, that means NMU is starting the season off 1-4-1. 1-4-1 is not acceptable for this team in any way shape or form. NMU has to travel to Ohio State and Notre Dame after this weekend. Only a few games into the season, and NMU has already set itself into a must-win position for this weekend. Anything less than two points will not cut it.
Re: NMU vs. Miami
If NMU takes a point they will be 1-3-2. Suggest hiring a coach with 3 weeks experience. Suggest going D-I in all sports without realizing how many sports would have to be added to meet conference requirements and how much having to fly to nearly every road game would cost, not just for basketball but for golf, soccer and all the limited revenue sports as well, then think we can make it back and more with the 3 or 4 basketball games you might get at major schools and somehow hoping that fans will flock to the Berry to see NMU do battle with Butler or Creighton. Yeah, that'll put NMU Athletics in great shape. Brilliant! Skip the Kool Aid. I'll take a Guinness.
If NMU takes a point they will be 1-3-2. Suggest hiring a coach with 3 weeks experience. Suggest going D-I in all sports without realizing how many sports would have to be added to meet conference requirements and how much having to fly to nearly every road game would cost, not just for basketball but for golf, soccer and all the limited revenue sports as well, then think we can make it back and more with the 3 or 4 basketball games you might get at major schools and somehow hoping that fans will flock to the Berry to see NMU do battle with Butler or Creighton. Yeah, that'll put NMU Athletics in great shape. Brilliant! Skip the Kool Aid. I'll take a Guinness.
boot_walt_kyle
Registered User
Re: NMU vs. Miami
1-3-2 with a shootout LOSS. LOSS LOSS LOSS LOSS LOSS! I am sick of the losing. NMU needs to WIN a game this weekend. Do you honestly believe that NMU can get swept or come away with only one point and still be ok? Do you honestly believe that with the next 4 games on the schedule?
1-3-2 with a shootout LOSS. LOSS LOSS LOSS LOSS LOSS! I am sick of the losing. NMU needs to WIN a game this weekend. Do you honestly believe that NMU can get swept or come away with only one point and still be ok? Do you honestly believe that with the next 4 games on the schedule?
Re: NMU vs. Miami
Hey genius, with a shootout win, NMU would still be 1-3-2 in the NCAA. And just like I wouldn't get overly excited if the team was 2-1-1 or 3-1 or even 4-0, I'm not going to bury them, fire the coach and overhaul the lineup four games into the season. Ask me how I feel around Christmas.
Hey genius, with a shootout win, NMU would still be 1-3-2 in the NCAA. And just like I wouldn't get overly excited if the team was 2-1-1 or 3-1 or even 4-0, I'm not going to bury them, fire the coach and overhaul the lineup four games into the season. Ask me how I feel around Christmas.
RaceBoarder
Waiting for the Snow to fly...
Re: NMU vs. Miami
So you demand wins against the #1 team in the country because you feel that games against unranked Ohio State aren't winnable?
So you demand wins against the #1 team in the country because you feel that games against unranked Ohio State aren't winnable?
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: NMU vs. Miami
1/6 of the season....
Look at this way,
Game 1: Biggest Rival
Game 2: Defending WCHA Champion
Game 3: Defending Frozen 4 Participant
Game 4: Defending Frozen 4 Participant
Game 5: NCAA Runner-up, current #1 team in the country
Game 6: NCAA Runner-up, current #1 team in the country
and you expected NMU to have a great record during the first 6 games...why?
Do you honestly believe that the first 6 games determine the course of the entire season?
1/6 of the season....
Look at this way,
Game 1: Biggest Rival
Game 2: Defending WCHA Champion
Game 3: Defending Frozen 4 Participant
Game 4: Defending Frozen 4 Participant
Game 5: NCAA Runner-up, current #1 team in the country
Game 6: NCAA Runner-up, current #1 team in the country
and you expected NMU to have a great record during the first 6 games...why?
RaceBoarder
Waiting for the Snow to fly...
Re: NMU vs. Miami
Because if you don't win all those games, you are mathematically eliminated from the NCAA Tournament, the CCHA Tournament, the Coppo Cup, the Super Bowl, the BCS, and the Lake Superior Pro Rally.....
Re: NMU vs. Miami
Because you have to beat the best in order to meet the expectations everybody around here has. Take into account that 4 of the 6 games are at home, regardless of opponent, and it is reasonable to expect better results thus far. People need to quit settling for anything less than what is expected from this years squad.
Heck, we may as well expect NMU to lose all those games in your estimation...that would be a great way to cast support to the team??? There is nothing wrong with those who question results this season. NMU is expected to win many of these games instead of writing them off as many posters on these boards tend to do in justifying the less than stellar play on the ice!!!
While those who read my statements may disagree I support this team even though I'm unhappy with the results shown thus far. I know they have the talent and I'm hoping they have something deep inside them that wants more than what that talent can provide...that is the only way teams like NMU can compete...by wanting to win more than any opposition they face!!!
Hardest working team in college hockey, right!!! Go Cats Go!!!
Because you have to beat the best in order to meet the expectations everybody around here has. Take into account that 4 of the 6 games are at home, regardless of opponent, and it is reasonable to expect better results thus far. People need to quit settling for anything less than what is expected from this years squad.
Heck, we may as well expect NMU to lose all those games in your estimation...that would be a great way to cast support to the team??? There is nothing wrong with those who question results this season. NMU is expected to win many of these games instead of writing them off as many posters on these boards tend to do in justifying the less than stellar play on the ice!!!
While those who read my statements may disagree I support this team even though I'm unhappy with the results shown thus far. I know they have the talent and I'm hoping they have something deep inside them that wants more than what that talent can provide...that is the only way teams like NMU can compete...by wanting to win more than any opposition they face!!!
Hardest working team in college hockey, right!!! Go Cats Go!!!