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Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet
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Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet
In case a buddy tried to mess with the guns. If he's driving solo, he KNOWS that wasn't a chance. But he checked anyway.
In case a buddy tried to mess with the guns. If he's driving solo, he KNOWS that wasn't a chance. But he checked anyway.
Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet
Will the MSM cover this story?
Cue the crickets in 3...2...1...
Will the MSM cover this story?
Cue the crickets in 3...2...1...
aparch
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Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet
The robbery is pure chickensh*t wanna-be thugs and is both sad and maddening.
The fact that this pastor is facing this harrasment for "stepping out" of the status quo is typical for where his congregation is located. By typical, I mean that it happens, but it definetly should NOT be acceptable.
The Illinois 1st Congressional District, where this church is located (6600 Block South King Drive, Chicago), is blindly Democratic. So much so that the same representative has held office since 1993. And in the last six elections, only once did he win less than 80% of the vote (and that was 2012 when he won with 73%).
It also is mere blocks away from another Democratic stronghold, Congressional District 2; better known as the region that voted for Jesse Jackson Jr KNOWING FULL WELL that he was facing prison time.
I'm glad this pastor is standing up for who he feels best will represent him, and absolutely hate the thugs who refuse to change.
It's a culture thing: this region blindly votes for Democrats, just like the autoworkers in Michigan vote Dem, Southerners vote Republican, etc.
The robbery is pure chickensh*t wanna-be thugs and is both sad and maddening.
The fact that this pastor is facing this harrasment for "stepping out" of the status quo is typical for where his congregation is located. By typical, I mean that it happens, but it definetly should NOT be acceptable.
The Illinois 1st Congressional District, where this church is located (6600 Block South King Drive, Chicago), is blindly Democratic. So much so that the same representative has held office since 1993. And in the last six elections, only once did he win less than 80% of the vote (and that was 2012 when he won with 73%).
It also is mere blocks away from another Democratic stronghold, Congressional District 2; better known as the region that voted for Jesse Jackson Jr KNOWING FULL WELL that he was facing prison time.
I'm glad this pastor is standing up for who he feels best will represent him, and absolutely hate the thugs who refuse to change.
It's a culture thing: this region blindly votes for Democrats, just like the autoworkers in Michigan vote Dem, Southerners vote Republican, etc.
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Gurtholfin
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Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet
Is this a story worthy of national coverage?
I think if Chicago media covers it, that will be sufficient.
Is this a story worthy of national coverage?
I think if Chicago media covers it, that will be sufficient.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet
This. Voting is tribal. Tell me who your parents voted for and 9 times out of 10 I can tell you who you vote for.
This. Voting is tribal. Tell me who your parents voted for and 9 times out of 10 I can tell you who you vote for.
Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet
I'll respectfully disagree. It's a national story that should be addressed by the MSM.
As Aparch says, facing harassment for "stepping out" is typical -- but not only in Chicago. It happens in just about every urban center run by Dems. Black business leaders, politicians and even athletes who lean to the right are ostracized and attacked (sometimes physically), called Uncle Toms, Oreos and other more derogatory terms.
Hey, I don't have a dog in this fight, but only a fool can fail to see that the Democrat party has done little or nothing to help those they say they are doing the most to help. It is truly sad to see.
I'll respectfully disagree. It's a national story that should be addressed by the MSM.
As Aparch says, facing harassment for "stepping out" is typical -- but not only in Chicago. It happens in just about every urban center run by Dems. Black business leaders, politicians and even athletes who lean to the right are ostracized and attacked (sometimes physically), called Uncle Toms, Oreos and other more derogatory terms.
Hey, I don't have a dog in this fight, but only a fool can fail to see that the Democrat party has done little or nothing to help those they say they are doing the most to help. It is truly sad to see.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet
Yes, that's dumb. Just as dumb as when knucks deny Catholic Democrats the sacrament of communion. So what's your point?
People who try to pressure other people on their political beliefs are irritating, and people who do it behind an institutional scaffolding are at best creeps and more likely enemies of democratic process. Find somebody who disagrees with this.
Yes, that's dumb. Just as dumb as when knucks deny Catholic Democrats the sacrament of communion. So what's your point?
People who try to pressure other people on their political beliefs are irritating, and people who do it behind an institutional scaffolding are at best creeps and more likely enemies of democratic process. Find somebody who disagrees with this.
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Most of the people my parents voted for are dead by now....and there aren't any moderate Democrats left anywhere in the country, as far as I can tell. They all fail the ideological purity test nowadays. My parents' moderate Democrats are today's moderate Republicans. Same positions, different electorate.
Besides that, I thought that when we were young, we'd vote the opposite of our parents, and then later on in life, as our voting patterns evolved, we'd marvel at how much our parents learned in the intervening years.
(apologies to Mark Twain for the awkward paraphrase....)
I am reminded of a story that Charles Barkley told. His mother asked him who he voted for in a particular election, and he replied "[GHW]Bush."
"Charles, how could you vote Republican! Republicans are the party of rich people."
"Ma....I'm rich."
Most of the people my parents voted for are dead by now....and there aren't any moderate Democrats left anywhere in the country, as far as I can tell. They all fail the ideological purity test nowadays. My parents' moderate Democrats are today's moderate Republicans. Same positions, different electorate.
Besides that, I thought that when we were young, we'd vote the opposite of our parents, and then later on in life, as our voting patterns evolved, we'd marvel at how much our parents learned in the intervening years.
(apologies to Mark Twain for the awkward paraphrase....)
I am reminded of a story that Charles Barkley told. His mother asked him who he voted for in a particular election, and he replied "[GHW]Bush."
"Charles, how could you vote Republican! Republicans are the party of rich people."
"Ma....I'm rich."
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unofan
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Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet
Wow, if that isn't straight out of the Karl Rove "accuse the other party of what your party is actively doing" playbook, I don't know what is.
Wow, if that isn't straight out of the Karl Rove "accuse the other party of what your party is actively doing" playbook, I don't know what is.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet
That's the game. FF will now regale us of tales of moderate Republicans.
That's the game. FF will now regale us of tales of moderate Republicans.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
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As I age, I become more and more convinced that conservatives -- the real ones, not the fakes in politics -- actually have different brain structures, or brain chemistry, or something. Typically I'd assume FF is just running a deflection play and knows it full well , but it happens so often with true righties that I'm starting to take them at their word. They really believe that stuff.
Take the general difference in mood: conservatives appeal to fear, liberals appeal to a desire for change. This happens again and again throughout history. It could reflect something much deeper than simple politics. Conversations between the sides do not regress to a mean of what reality is, they just push each other farther apart. Maybe it was evolutionarily useful to produce two basic models of human psychology rather than just one, each with its own domain of strength.
tl; dr: maybe this is true.
As I age, I become more and more convinced that conservatives -- the real ones, not the fakes in politics -- actually have different brain structures, or brain chemistry, or something. Typically I'd assume FF is just running a deflection play and knows it full well , but it happens so often with true righties that I'm starting to take them at their word. They really believe that stuff.
Take the general difference in mood: conservatives appeal to fear, liberals appeal to a desire for change. This happens again and again throughout history. It could reflect something much deeper than simple politics. Conversations between the sides do not regress to a mean of what reality is, they just push each other farther apart. Maybe it was evolutionarily useful to produce two basic models of human psychology rather than just one, each with its own domain of strength.
tl; dr: maybe this is true.
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Canon Law denies communion for any politician who actively promotes abortion. It's a shame that a number of bishops ignore Canon Law because they're afraid that the money from the State will dry out.
unofan
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Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet
Which is asinine, because voting in non-religious matters that affect the rights of non-Catholics should not be punishable by the Church.
It's also funny how that only applies to abortion, and not the death penalty, military aggression, or anything else that is likely to harm anything or anyone else.
Which is asinine, because voting in non-religious matters that affect the rights of non-Catholics should not be punishable by the Church.
It's also funny how that only applies to abortion, and not the death penalty, military aggression, or anything else that is likely to harm anything or anyone else.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet
The Church learned a long time ago that it can't bully states anymore, just individuals.
The Church learned a long time ago that it can't bully states anymore, just individuals.
Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet
And there are the Sins that Cry to Heaven for Vengeance (listed in order of precedence)
(Willful) Murder (Gn 4:10)
Sodomy (Gn 17:20-21)
Oppression of the poor (Ex 2:23)
Defrauding workers of their just wages (Jas 5:4).
Bully? No. Just concern over a person's immortal soul.
And there are the Sins that Cry to Heaven for Vengeance (listed in order of precedence)
(Willful) Murder (Gn 4:10)
Sodomy (Gn 17:20-21)
Oppression of the poor (Ex 2:23)
Defrauding workers of their just wages (Jas 5:4).
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet
Sodomy looks so dumb on that list that I had to look it up. This makes a lot more sense:
The "sin of the Sodomites": pride, gluttony, negligence of the poor, abuse of children, and homosexual acts
Sodomy looks so dumb on that list that I had to look it up. This makes a lot more sense:
The "sin of the Sodomites": pride, gluttony, negligence of the poor, abuse of children, and homosexual acts
unofan
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Yeah, but you never hear about politicians losing communion due to their votes on the death penalty. Only abortion.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet
Hence my point. The death penalty and warfare are state actions. The Church doesn't screw with the state -- in Uncle Joe's words, "how many divisions does the Pope have?" Abortion and TEHBUTTSEX are individual choices so it's a lot easier to lower the boom.
Hence my point. The death penalty and warfare are state actions. The Church doesn't screw with the state -- in Uncle Joe's words, "how many divisions does the Pope have?" Abortion and TEHBUTTSEX are individual choices so it's a lot easier to lower the boom.
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