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Nice Planet XII: It's Cruel to be Kind!

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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Probably a bad idea to use the typically white, male, well-educated demographic of a college hockey message board on which to base Gary Johnson's chances at being relevant in this election. ;)
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I certainly don't expect him to truly relevant. I would love to see him set a record for libertarian candidates though.
 
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goldy_331 said:
I certainly don't expect him to truly relevant. I would love to see him set a record for libertarian candidates though.
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The records are:

EV: 1, John Hospers, 1972 (from wiki: A Virginia faithless elector, Roger MacBride, though pledged to vote for Richard Nixon)

Popular Vote: 1,275,971, Gary Johnson, 2012

Popular Vote %: 1.07%, Ed Clark, 1980
 
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Kepler said:
The records are:

EV: 1, John Hospers, 1972 (from wiki: A Virginia faithless elector, Roger MacBride, though pledged to vote for Richard Nixon)

Popular Vote: 1,275,971, Gary Johnson, 2012

Popular Vote %: 1.07%, Ed Clark, 1980
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I would guess, in the current situation, with the other options out there...Gary Johnson will blow away 1.2 million and 1.07%. He won't get any electoral votes, but I would be very surprised if he isn't easily the most successful libertarian candidate when its all said and done.
 
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Handyman said:
So you dont see a massive difference between something you choose like political affiliation and something you are born into like sexual orientation? Really?
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I see discrimination. And not all the federally-protected classes are you born into.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
I would guess, in the current situation, with the other options out there...Gary Johnson will blow away 1.2 million and 1.07%. He won't get any electoral votes, but I would be very surprised if he isn't easily the most successful libertarian candidate when its all said and done.
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I suspect he will break 3% and 3M votes.

I think we are seeing a similar point in history to 100 years ago. Debs got 3% in 1904 and 1908, 6% in 1912, and 3% in 1920 (from prison for violating the Sedition Act of 1918). Both parties were corrupt, the Socialists gained enough traction that the Democrats were forced to co-opt them despite extreme resistance from the mouthbreathers in the South. Fast forward to today and the Libertarians and Republicans might re-enact the same story.
 
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UncleRay said:
I see discrimination. And not all the federally-protected classes are you born into.
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Are you referring to religion (of which there is a strong correlation with how you are raised, even if it's technically a choice), disability (because not all disabilities happen at birth), or sexual orientation (because you don't believe it's an innate characteristic)? Or something else?
 
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Here in the Phils they openly and unapologetically (not a word?) discriminate against the elderly and by that I mean over 30. Oddly there is some merit to it in that the life expectancy is 68 and I've had 22 year-olds tell me they're quitting their (relatively) well-paying job because they need to rest, even though they're the only one in the family with a job and have never had to lift a finger ever. That said I've gone to the mall and not seen anyone that looks remotely over 40 - children will shop for you and apparently mall food doesn't entice them to venture out. I honestly should keep a journal of the daily double-you-tee-effs I encounter as I think it would make for a great read back home. Funny thing is I've met many an expat in their 60's that hasn't stayed for the cheap entertainment, but because they think America is scary.
 
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unofan said:
Are you referring to religion (of which there is a strong correlation with how you are raised, even if it's technically a choice), disability (because not all disabilities happen at birth), or sexual orientation (because you don't believe it's an innate characteristic)? Or something else?
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St. Clown said:
From wiki:

In United States federal anti-discrimination law, a protected class is a characteristic of a person which cannot be targeted for discrimination.[1] The following characteristics are considered "Protected Classes" by Federal law:
  • Race – Civil Rights Act of 1964
  • Color – Civil Rights Act of 1964
  • Religion – Civil Rights Act of 1964
  • National origin – Civil Rights Act of 1964
  • Age (40 and over) – Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967
  • Sex – Equal Pay Act of 1963 and Civil Rights Act of 1964 The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission includes discrimination based on gender presentation and sexual orientation as protected beneath the class of 'sex'[2]
  • Pregnancy – Pregnancy Discrimination Act
  • Citizenship – Immigration Reform and Control Act
  • Familial status – Civil Rights Act of 1968 Title VIII: Housing cannot discriminate for having children, with an exception for senior housing
  • Disability status – Rehabilitation Act of 1973 and Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990
  • Veteran status– Vietnam Era Veterans' Readjustment Assistance Act of 1974 and Uniformed Services Employment and Reemployment Rights Act
  • Genetic information – Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act



Individual states can and do create other protected classes, which are protected under that state's law.
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For veteran status, I'm obviously referring to those who enlist, not those who were drafted (who would probably fall into the age category at this point anyway).
 
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A Tale of Two Christians.

After a Pennsylvania church wished its Muslim neighbors a “blessed Ramadan,” a local school board member who is also a Donald Trump delegate encouraged his followers to berate the church's pastor for speaking positively about a “godless” and “pagan” religion.
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Spring Grove is in the F-ckwitistan which comprises all of PA between Pittsburgh and Philly. This surprises me not at all.
 
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