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Nice Planet XI: Stop the World, I Want to Get Off!

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Ok, thanks. Added dumb question: Deadspin is pretty solid, though, as far as comparisons to these other sites? Yeah, they have SOME clickbait, but other stories.....

I think the best sites of the Gawker group are Deadspin, Kotaku, and Gizmodo (more the i09 side of Gizmodo since i09 merged with them). Not a car guy but Jalopnik always gets good reviews too.
Gawker is pretty blah. They went to an all politics format a few months ago but it's basically just a giant anti-Trump site now.
Jezebel is awful. Just so dam awful.
 
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Never visited Gawker before and I had not heard of Jalopnik nor Gizmodo until the past few posts. I just tried all 3 and am not seeing one ounce of difference on their front pages at least. Jalopnik has one about Danica Patrick being mad and all three link to this: http://io9.gizmodo.com/19-times-someone-gets-thrown-into-space-from-worst-to-1753938085#_ga=1.100705349.552041954.1458538143

Gizmodo gets a slight nod for being slightly more serious? Maybe?
 
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From most to least interesting (in uniqueness, mission, quality):

1. io9 -- quirky and curious
2. Jezebel -- fascinating and really funny in its provocations
3. Jalopnik -- makes me care about cars (I do not care about cars at all)
4. Deadspin -- the antidote to ESPN
5. Kotaku -- niche, uneven, crawls up its own anus too much
6. Gawker -- nothing you can't get from a hundred other sites
7. Lifehacker -- cross-marketing and face-stabblingly Millenial self-absorption
 
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Never visited Gawker before and I had not heard of Jalopnik nor Gizmodo until the past few posts. I just tried all 3 and am not seeing one ounce of difference on their front pages at least. Jalopnik has one about Danica Patrick being mad and all three link to this:

They are a family of sites which cross-link stories that fall in the overlap between site scope. For example, a story about Seth Blatter getting nailed on racketeering charges would be hosted on Deadspin (sports) but crosslinked on Gawker (sleeze gossip).
 
They are a family of sites which cross-link stories that fall in the overlap between site scope. For example, a story about Seth Blatter getting nailed on racketeering charges would be hosted on Deadspin (sports) but crosslinked on Gawker (sleeze gossip).

Plus on the weekend there is an uptick in sharing because there aren't as many stories written.

As an Ivy Leaguer, I'm surprised you like Jezebel, Kep. You're a Greek lettered polo away from being all that is wrong with the world according to them.
 
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As an Ivy Leaguer, I'm surprised you like Jezebel, Kep. You're a Greek lettered polo away from being all that is wrong with the world according to them.

I like them because they are saying, sometimes, interesting things; or at any rate are trying to do so. I don't agree with all of it, maybe not even most of it, but I do believe it needs to be said, and by actual humans rather than academics or pundits. They are a voice I don't get elsewhere, and even though they are basically in Spring Training there are flashes of brilliance in with all the rookie mistakes.

Fourth wave feminism is in its infancy and hasn't yet figured out what it wants to be when it grows up. Each wave corrects the excesses of the prior while broadening the scope of the movement, pulling in more related groups.

1st wave: procedural justice
2nd wave: substantive justice
3rd wave: intersectionality
4th wave: ???

The gen pop is always 20 years behind on social movements (because there is next to no intelligent coverage in the mainstream media), and 95% of the criticisms of Jezebel that I have seen are either generalized expressions of male insecurity (basically, criticism of all feminism) or outdated criticisms of 2nd wave feminism that are completely irrelevant to what the Jezebel contributors are trying to do.

The most legitimate criticism of Jezebel has nothing to do with its subject matter: it's often crappily written by young people who really don't know anything about the real world yet, not because they're feminists but because they're typically just off the academic turnip truck and are either regurgitating or reacting against theoretical concepts of no use to anyone except academics. You have to read it through that lens, and it can be irritating, but it's no different that reading most political or social commentary. 20-somethings, even the smart ones, are experientially impoverished, and won't actually have anything worth saying for a decade or more.

On the other hand, Jezebel is also attacked by Haters in a way that Misses The Point just as seriously as when people attacked John Stewart or the Colbert Show. The crazy, misdirected overreaction by a lot of critics kinda proves their central thesis: a lot of brains flip the off switch the moment they hear a feminist voice.

Anyway, I do like it. I am well aware that many Jezebel writers wouldn't like me, but frankly why would I care what they think when I used to carpool them with my daughter to their gymnastics practices? I believe the children are the future, but that means they are exactly as full of sh-t as everybody else. :-)
 
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All I see from Jezebel is "RAPE CULTURE!" screaming, Pitch Perfect gifs, and Lena Dunham stalking. Their problem lies in the problem with any academic discussion, there is no basis in the real world.

Deadspin is good outside of their soccer section Screamer, which is so blatantly anti-MLS I won't read anything from it.

Kotaku is ok. Like Twitch said they got involved in the Gamergate stuff and that's taken them down a notch.

Jalopnik is pretty cool, a lot of information that one wouldn't know about the auto industry, racing, and cars in general can be found. I really liked the series a guy wrote about importing an early 90's Skyline from Japan. Foxtrot Alpha is a Jalopnik subsite about the military that is really good.

io9 I guess is popular, but it's not my cup of tea.

I'll read Gawker for the comments.
 
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I like Deadspin... They're the anti-ESPN, so it gets my vote... Their comments FTW too....
 
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I like Deadspin... They're the anti-ESPN, so it gets my vote... Their comments FTW too....

I am "associated" with enough people on here, GPL, etc for social media that I see a ton of links to these, and Deadspin seems to be the most "legit."

And you read internet comments? I'm sorry. ;)
 
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I am "associated" with enough people on here, GPL, etc for social media that I see a ton of links to these, and Deadspin seems to be the most "legit."

And you read internet comments? I'm sorry. ;)

The Comments are the best part of the Gawker family. There are a lot of very clever people out there. It's a self-selected audience with up-voting, so it's not suicide-inducing like YouTube.
 
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The Comments are the best part of the Gawker family. There are a lot of very clever people out there. It's a self-selected audience with up-voting, so it's not suicide-inducing like YouTube.

This.

If I know the story will lead to some brilliant comments, I can't scroll to them fast enough. There are some absolute home runs in the comments.
 
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Wait. What was racist about that?

The funny thing is, by calling that teacher racist, they are saying that he is implying only minorities are getting in trouble. He didn't do that. So in fact, BLM is actually making the racist statements by assuming that "troubled students" (or however you want to phrase it) are always minorities.
 
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