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Nice Planet XI: Stop the World, I Want to Get Off!

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Jimjamesak said:
A couple of tanks and a couple of drones. Go ahead and give these guys the fight they want and see who has the better firepower.
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Wait a bit. They are calling on all their like-minded terrorist scum to gather there.

Let's get them all in one place. Then they can learn about how their delusional god-inspired rifle humping stands up against air superiority.

Oh, and after that clean up in OR, too. I was talking about ISIS.

(I'd actual love to collect all these f-cksticks and air drop them into Syria. Give them the Clash of Civilizations they're panting after. It's Thunderdome: set our Christoban against their Taliban. Whoever walks out in the end, quick missile strike and you've improved humanity's IQ appreciably.)
 
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Don't you people understand? THIS IS JADE HELM!!!!!11!11!!!11 They were right!




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omahasioux1 said:
Stupid comparison. Expect nothing less.
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I see his point, but it goes both ways:

1. Stop the "protest" by rolling in the heavy machinery.
2. Let the protest happen, because they have the right and it's for a good cause.

Depends on what side of the coin you favor.

Personally, you impede things enough to cause unnecessary disruption? Pay the piper, and accept any charges levied against you. BLM, these rednecks, whatever. I don't mind the protests, I mind the lack of acceptance of punishment by the protesters, whoever they may be.

However, the media, with all their spinning and narratives, will not let that happen.
 
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Brenthoven said:
I see his point, but it goes both ways:

1. Stop the "protest" by rolling in the heavy machinery.
2. Let the protest happen, because they have the right and it's for a good cause.

Depends on what side of the coin you favor.

Personally, you impede things enough to cause unnecessary disruption? Pay the piper, and accept any charges levied against you. BLM, these rednecks, whatever. I don't mind the protests, I mind the lack of acceptance of punishment by the protesters, whoever they may be.

However, the media, with all their spinning and narratives, will not let that happen.
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No comparison. Blocking streets, beating people, burning cars, burning peoples business, shooting at people. The lousy government set a precedent with Bundy a year ago by allowing him to trespass.
 
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omahasioux1 said:
No comparison. Blocking streets, beating people, burning cars, burning peoples business, shooting at people. The lousy government set a precedent with Bundy a year ago by allowing him to trespass.
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As much as I hate BLM's tactics, there are only a few people truly raising hell in that group. The rest are causing simple non-violent, very annoying acts, like blocking streets. Right now, the OR group is simply "blocking a street." If they keep their word about non-violence? Ok, bust 'em for trespassing/related. If they escalate? Bring the thunder.

Same stance as I have/had for BLM.
 
omahasioux1 said:
No comparison. Blocking streets, beating people, burning cars, burning peoples business, shooting at people. The lousy government set a precedent with Bundy a year ago by allowing him to trespass.
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Plenty of comparison. The people in Ferguson started with an unarmed protest march that was met with a heavy police presence before anything started. These guys are armed to the teeth holding a government building, threatening to shoot any law enforcement officers that approach and not a single *ing thing. No officers, no cars, no armored vehicles, no assault rifles, no SWAT teams, no National Guard. Nothing.

Let's go ahead and say it: If it was a bunch of black guys they'd be surrounded by officers with the media blaring "BLACK TERRORISTS SEIZE FEDERAL BUILDING!!!!" A bunch of white guys? Well let's just take this easy while the media describes them as "patriot militiamen".
 
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Jimjamesak said:
The people in Ferguson started with an unarmed protest march that was met with a heavy police presence before anything started.
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You sure about that, or are you just parroting talking points from Democratic Underground?

I'll grant you, there is a double standard at work here. These nuts in Oregon need to be called on their bluff and/or taken out, and frankly I don't care if that makes them martyrs for the cause. They want suicide by cop? They've asked for it.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
You sure about that, or are you just parroting talking points from Democratic Underground?

I'll grant you, there is a double standard at work here. These nuts in Oregon need to be called on their bluff and/or taken out, and frankly I don't care if that makes them martyrs for the cause. They want suicide by cop? They've asked for it.
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And that is what I am saying. The double standard is right there for everyone to see.
 
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Brenthoven said:
As much as I hate BLM's tactics, there are only a few people truly raising hell in that group. The rest are causing simple non-violent, very annoying acts, like blocking streets. Right now, the OR group is simply "blocking a street." If they keep their word about non-violence? Ok, bust 'em for trespassing/related. If they escalate? Bring the thunder.

Same stance as I have/had for BLM.
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I think it's kind of funny that the bad guys in the Bundy/Oregon event is BLM, too. Bureau of Land Management.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
Plenty of comparison. The people in Ferguson started with an unarmed protest march that was met with a heavy police presence before anything started. These guys are armed to the teeth holding a government building, threatening to shoot any law enforcement officers that approach and not a single *ing thing. No officers, no cars, no armored vehicles, no assault rifles, no SWAT teams, no National Guard. Nothing.

Let's go ahead and say it: If it was a bunch of black guys they'd be surrounded by officers with the media blaring "BLACK TERRORISTS SEIZE FEDERAL BUILDING!!!!" A bunch of white guys? Well let's just take this easy while the media describes them as "patriot militiamen".
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BS. BLM in Minneapolis occupied a public street, blocked access to a police precinct and were allowed to stay for over 2 weeks. And NO media blared about "BLACK TERRORISTS."
 
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goldy_331 said:
BS. BLM in Minneapolis occupied a public street, blocked access to a police precinct and were allowed to stay for over 2 weeks. And NO media blared about "BLACK TERRORISTS."
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Weren't they also blocking a portion of 35W?
 
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Yep. And vandalized the precinct building. And chased down and tried to destroy civilian vehicles trying to avoid their blockade. And called for violence against police. And absolutely no media made any comparisons to terrorism whatsoever.

What mainstream media exactly is calling these Bundy nutjobs "Patriots"? I'm curious.
 
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Pretty sure Faux did last year when they pulled this crap. My guess is CNN did as well in their attempt to show they arent biased.

But either way, many of these people have guns and threatened violence...should they not be dealt with?
 
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Handyman said:
Pretty sure Faux did last year when they pulled this crap.
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Fox' response to OR is hilarious. They're spending their time concentrating on "outrage concerning the protesters' portrayal in the media." Too f-cking funny. If these guys were Muslims the conservative haterati would be calling for tactical nuclear strikes. (I've been to Burns. Wouldn't change the place a bit.)
 
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Handyman said:
Pretty sure Faux did last year when they pulled this crap. My guess is CNN did as well in their attempt to show they arent biased.

But either way, many of these people have guns and threatened violence...should they not be dealt with?
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"Pretty sure..." and "My guess..." don't exactly qualify as proof of your assertions. At least not to me (or anyone else with any sort of critical eye, really).

So I'll ask differently: Sources, please? Unfortunately, my folks watch quite a bit of Fox News and I was unwillingly exposed to it during the standoff last year, and I don't recall them hailing these ranchers as heroes. Could have missed it, I guess. Wasn't exactly glued to the TV.

To answer your question, yes. These nutjobs should be dealt with accordingly. I have no issue with wiping them from the populace if that's the route they want to take.
 
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So this thing in Oregon- am I reading/seeing it right that they are protesting access to public lands?

Land that all of us as tax paying citizens all own?

They want to be able to have their cattle graze on this public land that they do not own.

They want free food for their cattle.

How is that not giving them some kind of welfare?

They are willing to kill people so that they can feed their cattle for free and sell it for a profit. That's what they are saying. I don't think I want to share my portion of the land so that they can make money. But that's just me. Pay for the cattle feed, and don't start fires.
 
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