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Nice Planet X: I knew it, I'm surrounded by a-holes!

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Especially now with the WHO's recent press release of claiming ham might be a carcinogen, or simply contain them, the article I read was somewhat muddled on that point.

Shocking news, haven't nitrates been on the cancer causing list for 30 years
 
Re: Nice Planet X: I knew it, I'm surrounded by a-holes!

Ugh.

<a href="http://www.jsonline.com/newswatch/341346711.html">Nine year old Chicago boy lured into alley and murdered</a>.

He's NINE YEARS OLD. I don't care what his dad did. NINE!!!
 
Re: Nice Planet X: I knew it, I'm surrounded by a-holes!

Ugh.

<a href="http://www.jsonline.com/newswatch/341346711.html">Nine year old Chicago boy lured into alley and murdered</a>.

He's NINE YEARS OLD. I don't care what his dad did. NINE!!!
That's the old mafia MO. We're not just going to kill you for ratting us out, we're going after your family too. That's your warning, so you know what's at stake.
 
Re: Nice Planet X: I knew it, I'm surrounded by a-holes!

I believe non combatants were off limits in the Mafia.

Though what was the age limit for boys? It's the old "kill him now or wait for him to grow up and kill you."
 
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I believe non combatants were off limits in the Mafia.

A lot of criminals view harming a child as the absolute worst of the worst on the hierarchy of crimes. Wouldn't be surprised to see even his own gang members dropping dimes on him. Especially higher ranking ones that know this is how you rally the community against you and get a police crackdown on gangs.
 
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Though what was the age limit for boys? It's the old "kill him now or wait for him to grow up and kill you."

Family not in the "family business" are off limits. And a kid? No.

So I don't see "mafia" here, I see gang.
 
Re: Nice Planet X: I knew it, I'm surrounded by a-holes!

Is there much actual mafia left? Serious question.

Yes, I believe that there definitely are. They are not as overt in their violence, and/or hide it well, especially compared to the gangs thugs.
 
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Yes, I believe that there definitely are. They are not as overt in their violence, and/or hide it well, especially compared to the gangs thugs.

Agreed. I think their business models have changed significantly in the last 15-20 years.
 
Re: Nice Planet X: I knew it, I'm surrounded by a-holes!

Yes, I believe that there definitely are. They are not as overt in their violence, and/or hide it well, especially compared to the gangs thugs.

This. You still have:

The Five Families (and they are waning) in the US
La Cosa Nostra (although it's a shell of what it once was) in Italy
Vor v Zakone in Russia
Triads in China
Yakuza (which is now in flux) in Japan

Then if you want to include them, all the cartels in Mexico/South America, although they are more like underground illegal armies.

Most mafias are more into the financial white collar things nowadays, with all the technology around. It's not running numbers on the streets, etc. It's more buying casinos, legit businesses (the union stuff is still around, or at least a form of it), etc. Anything that can be mis-reported in earnings. Sort of like a one-stop money-laundering.

For the Yakuza and Triads, golf courses were HUGE moneymakers. You could fudge the financing hardcore.
 
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Agreed. I think their business models have changed significantly in the last 15-20 years.

"If you want to steal money, rob a bank. If you want to steal a lot of money, own a bank."
 
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