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Nice Planet © 2009

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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/79863-patrick-kennedy-scott-browns-candidacy-a-joke

So Patrick Kennedy thinks Scott Brown's election is a joke. Seriously, how can this punk utter a single word in public? He's only in Congress because of his name. During the campaign he didn't even know Martha Coakley's first name. And he has distinguished himself with repeated episodes of drunk driving on Capitol hill and one memorable dust up with a TSA worker, "don't you know who I am?" Yeah, we know, trust me, we know.
 
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Meh, if I was the kid I'd have told them to blow it out their arse too.
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At issue is probably that he asked to wear the Colts jersey, was told no, but did it anyway.

That said, if an institution is going to relax its dress code to express a certain point of view (i.e. in support of the Saints), they better well relax it to express the alternative (i.e. in support of the Colts). I'm not one of those overly PC types, but this seems to me, at worst, a clear cut violation of free speech. At the least, it is just plain dumb to assume that everyone at the school is a support of only one team in the Superbowl.

On the other hand, the school [I assume] is private and they can **** well do what they please.

Meh, indeed.
 
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Let me respectfully offer a different take. This Superbowl is literally a once in a lifetime event for people in Louisiana, who've been suffering with the Saints for decades. Remember how terrible Tampa Bay was when they came in to the NFL, how long they went before winning a game? Guess who they beat for that first win? Yup. Remember Saints fans came up with "Aints" and the paper bag over their heads. How clever is that?

So when the Saints finally get to the promised land it's pretty close to a state holiday. So the school authorizes "black and gold" day. Anyone who wants to wear Saints colors can, but nobody is required to do so. How difficult is that to understand? This boy belongs to the "dot with the circle around it club," he's the dot and the circle is the rest of the world. He's determined to stick his love of the Colts in faces of everyone at the school. "Look at me, I'm a Colts fan in the land of the Fleur de Lis." Get a little attention, show off for the girls. He's entitled to root for anyone he wants, he's not entitled to rewrite the dress code to suit himself. Imagine his school was getting ready for homecoming and they suspended the dress code to allow students to wear school colors, and this dude shows up wearing the jersey of the homecoming opponant. Titanic First Amendment issue or just a show off kid?

Naturally, this trifling matter is of great concern to our friends in the ACLU, why the First Amendment is under attack here, and we've got to coming riding in like the 7th Cavalry to protect this boy's rights. Never mind the rights of the community and the other students.

Nothing should happen to this kid as a result of his bad jiudgement, but it was bad judgement. Done deliberately, to raise a fuss. In that sense, he got what he wanted. Based on my first hand knowledge of Louisiana football fans (everyone really should see a game in Tiger Stadium) I'm a little surprised nothing ELSE happened to him, know what I mean?
 
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Old Pio said:
Let me respectfully offer a different take. This Superbowl is literally a once in a lifetime event for people in Louisiana, who've been suffering with the Saints for decades. Remember how terrible Tampa Bay was when they came in to the NFL, how long they went before winning a game? Guess who they beat for that first win? Yup. Remember Saints fans came up with "Aints" and the paper bag over their heads. How clever is that?

So when the Saints finally get to the promised land it's pretty close to a state holiday. So the school authorizes "black and gold" day. Anyone who wants to wear Saints colors can, but nobody is required to do so. How difficult is that to understand? This boy belongs to the "dot with the circle around it club," he's the dot and the circle is the rest of the world. He's determined to stick his love of the Colts in faces of everyone at the school. "Look at me, I'm a Colts fan in the land of the Fleur de Lis." Get a little attention, show off for the girls. He's entitled to root for anyone he wants, he's not entitled to rewrite the dress code to suit himself. Imagine his school was getting ready for homecoming and they suspended the dress code to allow students to wear school colors, and this dude shows up wearing the jersey of the homecoming opponant. Titanic First Amendment issue or just a show off kid?

Naturally, this trifling matter is of great concern to our friends in the ACLU, why the First Amendment is under attack here, and we've got to coming riding in like the 7th Cavalry to protect this boy's rights. Never mind the rights of the community and the other students.

Nothing should happen to this kid as a result of his bad jiudgement, but it was bad judgement. Done deliberately, to raise a fuss. In that sense, he got what he wanted. Based on my first hand knowledge of Louisiana football fans (everyone really should see a game in Tiger Stadium) I'm a little surprised nothing ELSE happened to him, know what I mean?
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Sorry, but who gives a **** about louisiana. I'm growing tired of the "woe is me" attitude. How do the "rights of the community" supersede his?
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Sorry, but who gives a **** about louisiana. I'm growing tired of the "woe is me" attitude. How do the "rights of the community" supersede his?
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He has no "right" to customize the dress code to suit himself. And if your childish outburst about Louisiana has to do with the pimping of Katrina, I agree with you. I'm just curious how you got there based on my post. I only referred to long suffering Saints fans. Perhaps you should respond to arguments I make, rather than ones you think you hear. And if you're unable to come up with any instances where an individual's rights must give way to the rights of the community, I suggest you read up on mandatory attendance laws. He's an individual, yet the state overrides his "right" to be a dumb ****** by requiring him to go to school or be home schooled. Or mandatory car insurance. Or seat belt/helmet laws.
 
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It's ridiculous to let students wear saints gear but object to a kid wearing Colts gear. I don't really care if they told him no beforehand, I'd still do it. This was obviously based solely on showing support for the Saints, so this kid should be allowed to show his support for the Colts.
 
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Dirty said:
It's ridiculous to let students wear saints gear but object to a kid wearing Colts gear. I don't really care if they told him no beforehand, I'd still do it. This was obviously based solely on showing support for the Saints, so this kid should be allowed to show his support for the Colts.
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Why? Is everything an epic clash of rights? Or is this an example of a kid figuring he'd raise a little h***, impress his friends and get some ink? Maybe those are appropriate motivations and maybe not. But the school can and should act to eliminate disruptive behavior. And wearing a Colts jersey on "Black and Gold" day certainly qualifies as disruptive. Just as it would be disruptive for him to wear a shirt lauding the Holocaust or calling people the N-word, etc.
 
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The only reason Black and Gold Day occurred was because the Saints are in the Super Bowl. This kid wearing a Colts jersey for the same reason is hardly disruptive. To call this Black and Gold Day is a bit of a misnomer, it was really support the Saints Day. The kid probably figured if my friends can support their team, why can't I support mine? The kids rights weren't violated, but the school is stupid for making such a big deal out of it.
 
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Dirty said:
The only reason Black and Gold Day occurred was because the Saints are in the Super Bowl. This kid wearing a Colts jersey for the same reason is hardly disruptive. To call this Black and Gold Day is a bit of a misnomer, it was really support the Saints Day. The kid probably figured if my friends can support their team, why can't I support mine? The kids rights weren't violated, but the school is stupid for making such a big deal out of it.
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Finally, something we can agree on. :) I think if I were principal at his school I would have just waited for nature to take its course. Somebody would have mussed his hair do.
 
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He has no "right" to customize the dress code to suit himself. And if your childish outburst about Louisiana has to do with the pimping of Katrina, I agree with you. I'm just curious how you got there based on my post. I only referred to long suffering Saints fans. Perhaps you should respond to arguments I make, rather than ones you think you hear. And if you're unable to come up with any instances where an individual's rights must give way to the rights of the community, I suggest you read up on mandatory attendance laws. He's an individual, yet the state overrides his "right" to be a dumb ****** by requiring him to go to school or be home schooled. Or mandatory car insurance. Or seat belt/helmet laws.
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I don't know how it was an outburst, but ok. First of all, seat belt laws are ridiculous. Second, I misinterpreted your "long-suffering" comment. If you're going to allow a child to wear saints stuff, you cannot ban another student from wearing his colts gear. The aclu nailed this one.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I don't know how it was an outburst, but ok. First of all, seat belt laws are ridiculous. Second, I misinterpreted your "long-suffering" comment. If you're going to allow a child to wear saints stuff, you cannot ban another student from wearing his colts gear. The aclu nailed this one.
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I respectfully disagree. The school has a dress code. They authorized a one time specific exception. That exception did not involve wearing Colts gear. Frankly, the ACLU's game of using lefty pro bono local lawyers to intimidate people into doing things their way is getting a little old. These days, most school boards don't have the funds to fight that kind of intimidation, so they just cave in. Not very sporting, you ask me. And certainly not reflective of the legal merits of their position.
 
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The problem is I doubt the school would've done anything if the kid was wearing a Broncos or Giants jersey. They threw a hissy fit because he wore a Colts jersey though.
 
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Old Pio said:
I respectfully disagree. The school has a dress code. They authorized a one time specific exception. That exception did not involve wearing Colts gear. Frankly, the ACLU's game of using lefty pro bono local lawyers to intimidate people into doing things their way is getting a little old. These days, most school boards don't have the funds to fight that kind of intimidation, so they just cave in. Not very sporting, you ask me.
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Don't get me wrong, I hate the ACLU as much as the next guy, but this is one case where I agree with them (tactics aside).
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Don't get me wrong, I hate the ACLU as much as the next guy, but this is one case where I agree with them (tactics aside).
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Again, something we can agree on. As my grandmother used to say, even a blind hog finds an accorn now and again. I wouln't end the ACLU, I'm just weary of their bullying.
 
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