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[St. Clown]

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Let's see. Three porn "actors" are HIV positive. And the porn "industry" has instituted a "nationwide" moratorium on production. And we're supposed to care about this why? There has been extensive coverage of this situation, with no explanation why anyone, outside of porn "actors" and "actresses" and their partners should care. It's a matter of significant concern for those folks, of course. But my question remains, why should ordinary Americans care any more about three HIV cases in a tiny, discreet group than they do about HIV cases in the population at large?

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/07/string-of-hiv-infections-brings-porn-industry-to-a-standstill/

The porn industry does close to the same amount of business as Hollywood these days. My guess is that a lot of people who'd never admit to it will care to one degree or another.

 

[Priceless]

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Let's see. Three porn "actors" are HIV positive. And the porn "industry" has instituted a "nationwide" moratorium on production. And we're supposed to care about this why? There has been extensive coverage of this situation, with no explanation why anyone, outside of porn "actors" and "actresses" and their partners should care. It's a matter of significant concern for those folks, of course. But my question remains, why should ordinary Americans care any more about three HIV cases in a tiny, discreet group than they do about HIV cases in the population at large?

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/07/string-of-hiv-infections-brings-porn-industry-to-a-standstill/

According to one study in 2003, the porn industry employed over 12,000 people just in California. Bear in mind, when they stop production of a movie - any movie - it impacts a lot more than just the actors. All those people whose names scroll across the screen that no one ever pays attention to require those incomes. Those ~12,000 people paid $36M in taxes, BTW.

 

[Old Pio]

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The porn industry does close to the same amount of business as Hollywood these days. My guess is that a lot of people who'd never admit to it will care to one degree or another.

So it's an economic decision to report breathlessly on what STDs these slimeballs have contracted? How many hookers/hustlers are there in SoCal? Do we report on their STD status, other than statistically?

 

[The Rube]

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So it's an economic decision to report breathlessly on what STDs these slimeballs have contracted? How many hookers/hustlers are there in SoCal? Do we report on their STD status, other than statistically?

Porn is considered a legal, legitimate industry, though. Prostitution (in this country) is pretty much not. Big difference. Not that I'm a porn guy or anything, but there is a difference, as to regulations/laws/etc.

 

[Old Pio]

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According to one study in 2003, the porn industry employed over 12,000 people just in California. Bear in mind, when they stop production of a movie - any movie - it impacts a lot more than just the actors. All those people whose names scroll across the screen that no one ever pays attention to require those incomes. Those ~12,000 people paid $36M in taxes, BTW.

12,000 people and 36M is pretty small potatoes in a state with an economy bigger than the vast majority of nations. Besides, your in depth financial analysis doesn't answer the question of why the STD status of some of the people in this small group is newsworthy. Or why the do-gooders in California think it's any of their business whether these bums use condoms when at "work" or not. Because if the paltry 36M in taxes (federal, state, local?) paid by these losers is the standard for heavy reporting, then there are many other industries where those data should also be reported and aren't.

 

[The Rube]

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12,000 people and 36M is pretty small potatoes in a state with an economy bigger than the vast majority of nations. And doesn't answer my question of why the STD status of some of the people in this small group is newsworthy. Or why the do-gooders in California think it's any of their business whether these bums use condoms when at "work" or not.

Well, these "bums" do associate outside of the industry, so it might be considered an overall health issue, too.

 

[Old Pio]

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Porn is considered a legal, legitimate industry, though. Prostitution (in this country) is pretty much not. Big difference. Not that I'm a porn guy or anything, but there is a difference, as to regulations/laws/etc.

What does legality have to do with reporting? Over the years I seem to recall seeing a couple of stories about criminals and criminality. Maybe I was mistaken. And the HIV status of hookers/hustlers would seem to have a statistically much greater potential impact on the health of the general public than a tiny handful of "actors."

 

[Old Pio]

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Well, these "bums" do associate outside of the industry, so it might be considered an overall health issue, too.

So we're reporting heavily on the STD status of these "actors" because we're concerned about their non-porn sexual partners? What about heavy reporting on the partners for ordinary, infected people, who aren't "stars?" I'd guess there are more than 3, many times more than 3. And we're mandating condom usage for them at "work" for the same reason? Apart from the fact the condom requirement, at this point, doesn't seem fool proof, why haven't the do-gooders gotten around to requiring condoms for high school kids and sailors?

 

[The Rube]

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What does legality have to do with reporting? Over the years I seem to recall seeing a couple of stories about criminals and criminality. Maybe I was mistaken. And the HIV status of hookers/hustlers would seem to have a statistically much greater potential impact on the health of the general public than a tiny handful of "actors."

You can easily get stats on the porn people, because it's a business industry that is regulated to an extent, and pays taxes. Prostitution might be a bit tougher to get stats on.

It's being reported, and people should care, because porn IS a legit, legal way to make money (despite your, my, or anyone else's moral objections, if any), and it should be treated just like a business that sells radios, or food, or whatever.

 

[Old Pio]

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You can easily get stats on the porn people, because it's a business industry that is regulated to an extent, and pays taxes. Prostitution might be a bit tougher to get stats on.

It's being reported, and people should care, because porn IS a legit, legal way to make money (despite your, my, or anyone else's moral objections, if any), and it should be treated just like a business that sells radios, or food, or whatever.

So then let's have STD details on Safeway cashiers. Or Hardee's employees. Or the kids who schlep TCBY. I don't equate "legitimate" with "legal." You may think these pigs are "legitimate" "actors", I don't. They're merely prostitutes of a slightly different sort. More importantly, none of your rationalizations answer the question of why the HIV status of only 3 employees of this "legitimate industry" should be reported.

 

[Dirty]

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So then let's have STD details on Safeway cashiers. Or Hardee's employees. Or the kids who schlep TCBY. I don't equate "legitimate" with "legal." You may think these pigs are "legitimate" "actors", I don't. They're merely prostitutes of a slightly different sort. More importantly, none of your rationalizations answer the question of why the HIV status of only 3 employees of this "legitimate industry" should be reported.

Why did you share this like it was a legitimate news story?

The late Dennis Wolfberg used to talk about the "statewide IQ reduction program" in Alabama. As proof of its success, residents of one town were spooked by a radio station promotion involving "aliens." Somewhere, Orson Welles is laughing.

http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2013/08/30/alien-marketing-promotion-scares-residents-in-ala-community/

 

[Old Pio]

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Why did you share this like it was a legitimate news story?

Ask Orson Welles, dummy. Are you going for some sort of world record non sequitur here?

 

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

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It's reported because a work stoppage in a multi-billion dollar industry is news whether you think it's a legitimate industry or not.

 

[Priceless]

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It's reported because a work stoppage in a multi-billion dollar industry is news whether you think it's a legitimate industry or not.

This. It isn't that three actors are HIV-positive, it's that a major industry stopped production. It impacts industries that you think might be more legitimate. Like the hotel industry. According to Forbes, it accounts for 55% of in-room charges hotels collect. That's a pretty nice chunk of change.

 

[Dirty]

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Ask Orson Welles, dummy. Are you going for some sort of world record non sequitur here?

I obviously should've asked my question a bit more clearly given you are so upset over this porn story. Since you were completely upset over the reporting of something you don't consider a news story, I'm just wondering why you consider a town in Alabama being filled with idiots to be a news story. One, as has been mentioned, involves a multi-billion dollar industry and one involves a bunch of idiots and very little effect on any industry.

 

[Old Pio]

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It's reported because a work stoppage in a multi-billion dollar industry is news whether you think it's a legitimate industry or not.

A "multi-billion" dollar industry whose employees pay only 36M in taxes? So this is an economic issue? We're concerned about the well being of all those mom and pop porn stores out there? And how they're gong to cope with a slow down in new "product?" Because when the "sell by" dates on the "product" they've already got in stock pass, they're in a world of hurt.

 

[Old Pio]

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I obviously should've asked my question a bit more clearly given you are so upset over this porn story. Since you were completely upset over the reporting of something you don't consider a news story, I'm just wondering why you consider a town in Alabama being filled with idiots to be a news story.

Why do the children assume I'm upset? I'm having a little fun at the expense of people who aren't nearly as bright as they think they are. Especially you. Try looking up "irony," then put your tiny little brain to work at trying to figure it out.

 

[Old Pio]

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This.

Perhaps the IRS should stop investigating political groups with which it disagrees and investigate why the employees of this massive "industry" seem to be underpaying their taxes so significantly.

 

[Dirty]

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Why do the children assume I'm upset? I'm having a little fun at the expense people who aren't nearly as bright as they think they are. Especially you. Try looking up "irony," then put your tiny little brain to work at trying to figure it out.

So it is a news story then. You were just pretending it wasn't so you could be your grumpy, old man self and complain. Makes sense.

 

[Priceless]

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Perhaps the IRS should stop investigating political groups with which it disagrees and investigate why the employees of this massive "industry" seem to be underpaying their taxes so significantly.

1) That was 2003. 2) That industry extends well beyond just the people who make the movies. 3) Grow up.