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Nice Planet 5: Insert Catchy Title Here

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Old Pio said:
Mr. Smith, I presume. As I have said, and your pleasant generalities don't refute, product liability law is a racket. Engaged in by many bottom feeding louts who care not the slightest for the economic impact their extortions have on our economy or the people struggling to stay employed. "I got mine" looks great on a mantle piece (John Edwards, after all, has an indoor basketball court). It ain't exactly the way to run a railroad. The lawyers who completely dominate our legislatures (national and state) continue passing laws which wind up being full employment bills for lawyers.
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I don't how much product liability law is really created at the legislative level. Maybe people in the profession, like UNOFAN, with knowledge in that area could shed some light.

I did not come into this thread suggesting that lawyers, as a profession, are doing their work for "noble causes" or the like. I'm sure some hope they're seen as a real life Atticus Finch, but I suspect all of them treat their practices as a business. They are in business to make money, like anyone else who has a business. And whether they think they can be more successful in their business by advertising is their decision to make, like any other business.

My beef with your outrage is more with your characterization of jurors as saps. I'm sure there are examples of jurors who reached what others of us might consider outrageous decisions, but as I suggested earlier, I think that if you put 6-12 random community members in a room as jurors, most of the time they come up with a common sense answer.
 
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SJHovey said:
I don't how much product liability law is really created at the legislative level. Maybe people in the profession, like UNOFAN, with knowledge in that area could shed some light.

I did not come into this thread suggesting that lawyers, as a profession, are doing their work for "noble causes" or the like. I'm sure some hope they're seen as a real life Atticus Finch, but I suspect all of them treat their practices as a business. They are in business to make money, like anyone else who has a business. And whether they think they can be more successful in their business by advertising is their decision to make, like any other business.

My beef with your outrage is more with your characterization of jurors as saps. I'm sure there are examples of jurors who reached what others of us might consider outrageous decisions, but as I suggested earlier, I think that if you put 6-12 random community members in a room as jurors, most of the time they come up with a common sense answer.
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Why characterize my remarks as "outrage?" We have become so wussified in this country that just about any strongly worded opinion is "outrage," especially if one disagrees with that opinion. There are plenty of outrages around. Bottom feeding lawyers and the idiot jurors who abet their rapacious demands, while objectionable, are not outrage. Lawyers trying cases (criminal or civil) want jurors with zero common sense. Jurors who can be manipulated. Ciphers. Boobs. People who will, in fact, buy what the lawyer is selling. That's the whole point: jurors aren't chosen "randomly," they're carefully selected. If they were chosen "randomly" I'd have far greater respect for the system.

Evidently your principal reason for posting is to defend or justify bottom feeders who advertise. Maybe the TV lawyers where you live make a better case for themselves than the ones I've seen over the years. My experience is these guys all look (and dress) like used car salesmen. The fact that so many of them need to drum up business on the tube tends to confirm my suspicion that we have far too many lawyers anyway. But one of the nice things about America is if you want to put your trust in the modern version of an ambulance chaser, you can.
 
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Old Pio said:
Why characterize my remarks as "outrage?" We have become so wussified in this country that just about any strongly worded opinion is "outrage," especially if one disagrees with that opinion. There are plenty of outrages around. Bottom feeding lawyers and the idiot jurors who abet their rapacious demands, while objectionable, are not outrage. Lawyers trying cases (criminal or civil) want jurors with zero common sense. Jurors who can be manipulated. Ciphers. Boobs. People who will, in fact, buy what the lawyer is selling. That's the whole point: jurors aren't chosen "randomly," they're carefully selected. If they were chosen "randomly" I'd have far greater respect for the system.

Evidently your principal reason for posting is to defend or justify bottom feeders who advertise. Maybe the TV lawyers where you live make a better case for themselves than the ones I've seen over the years. My experience is these guys all look (and dress) like used car salesmen. The fact that so many of them need to drum up business on the tube tends to confirm my suspicion that we have far too many lawyers anyway. But one of the nice things about America is if you want to put your trust in the modern version of an ambulance chaser, you can.
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I used the word "outrage" only because of the tone of your post, the name calling and denigrating. If you're not outraged, I'm fine with that.

Jurors are randomly selected from the community at large. For a typical civil case they probably bring in 30-40 people. From that smaller pool an even smaller group are again randomly selected by the court staff. For a jury of 6 people in a civil case, there might be a dozen people total lawyers get to choose from. They get to kick off a pre-determined number, the defendant kicks off that same pre-determined number, and what's left serves as your jury. I'm sure many on this board have had the experience of being in the larger pool and can confirm this.

I don't defend or denigrate lawyers who advertise. I don't defend or denigrate any other business that chooses to advertise. It's simply a choice. I personally wouldn't select by lawyer, doctor, or dentist based upon a billboard, but others may.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
Fargo woman is going to give fat note, instead of candy, to fat kids that are trick-or-treating.
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/...letters-to-overweight-children-instead-candy/
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so it's ok for skinny kids to eat unhealthy things? maybe they're just as unhealthy as the fat kids. she'd be less of a judgemental hypocrite if she didn't give out candy to ANYONE.. or gave pennies or "nature's candy". it's obvious that her concern is not for the childrens' health, but rather how they look on the outside. good message to send.

I bet this lady is really fun at parties.
 
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Here's my position re:Halloween. If you're going to dress up and come bang on my door, you're getting candy, regardless of whether you look like you think gravy and ranch dressing are food groups.
 
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Hammer said:
Here's my position re:Halloween. If you're going to dress up and come bang on my door, you're getting candy, regardless of whether you look like you think gravy and ranch dressing are food groups.
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They're not?
 
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Hammer said:
Here's my position re:Halloween. If you're going to dress up and come bang on my door, you're getting candy, regardless of whether you look like you think gravy and ranch dressing are food groups.
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Key is that they have to dress up. Older kids who show up in their street clothes get made fun of not rewarded for being lazy *******s.
 
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That's right. If I'm going to sit out there and get a cold, wet *** handing out candy, you're **** sure putting some work into your attire. Or you're getting nothing.
 
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I give candy to everyone.

Those eggs are hitting someone's house tonight. No need to get mine on the radar.
 
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