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Nice Planet 5: Insert Catchy Title Here

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I'm a proud stepdad and I would die if anything happened to my little girl. I may not have made Hailey, but I know I'm a part of her life. She slips and calls me dad sometimes, but that's OK. I love her with all my heart. Anyone who kills a kid, needs to get the needle if not worse.
 
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I'm a proud stepdad and I would die if anything happened to my little girl. I may not have made Hailey, but I know I'm a part of her life. She slips and calls me dad sometimes, but that's OK. I love her with all my heart. Anyone who kills a kid, needs to get the needle if not worse.
South Dakota has capital punishment. I have a hard time seeing this guy not get the needle...
 
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You know, if I were a cop on that case and that pos began slamming his head against the divider, I might think it would be a good time to go get a cup of coffee. Let him do the job good and proper, with no interference. And I love the language. This a*shole is "lodged" in the county jail. Really? Did he get upgraded to a suite?

Hopefully with someone named Bubba.
 
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True, and I agree, though I'm sure some will argue that that risk is more than offset by the deterrence factor--that fewer risky situations will arise if shooters think the vics are armed. I'm just not convinced random killers think that way, but there have probably been studies of some kind.

Do these mass shooters think? As least in the way we mean the word. Woo Tang Clan at VTU was nuttier than Aunt Martha's pecan divinity. Same with the pr*ck at Tucson. Or the one in Aurora. Or the one in CT. I'm not certain deterrence figures into the equation for these people at all, ever. In garden variety crimes, maybe. Stickups. Car jackings, etc. Even so, while I support the rights to carry and carry concealed (it's still a bit of a shock every time I see some citizen packing heat in Phoenix) I'm just not as convinced as the gun enthusiasts that things will always or even usually work out the way we want. Criminals can always find other victims. They're criminals. That's what they do.
 
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The guy's dead soon, no matter how you cut it. Prison, actual death penalty, whatever. Even lifers have a special hate for crimes involving kids.
 
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I'm a proud stepdad and I would die if anything happened to my little girl. I may not have made Hailey, but I know I'm a part of her life. She slips and calls me dad sometimes, but that's OK. I love her with all my heart. Anyone who kills a kid, needs to get the needle if not worse.

One of my niece's best friends in HS was adopted. He's black. His parents were not only white they were Jewish! And he's a terrific young guy. Walked on to the University of Arizona football team and caught a TD against Miami in the Copper Bowl. Successful in the cable biz. I don't know for sure, but I doubt his parents filled him full of Kwanza b.s.

My hat is off to you, sir. The efficacy of biology on parenting is severely limited, IMO. And greatly overrated in lots of cases.
 
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The guy's dead soon, no matter how you cut it. Prison, actual death penalty, whatever. Even lifers have a special hate for crimes involving kids.

I did an interview once with some shrink, IIRC. And she said if we removed from prisons cons who were both functionally illiterate and who had been abused in some way as kids, you'd empty the places out.

Preserving families sounds great when you're talking about the Cleavers or the Nelsons, but the word "family" is inappropriately applied to far too many domestic arrangements, you ask me.

I posted last week about a group in Houston whose sole focus is kids who have been removed from abusive homes by CPS, then put back in those homes, then killed. Time to recalibrate folks.
 
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What in "the wide wide world of sports" has gotten in to Governor Moonbeam? First he vetoes a bill that would have allowed non-citizens to serve on juries. Now a bill essentially outlawing semi-automatic rifles. Give everyone in the California legislature a case of whatever Jerry's been drinking.
 
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The guy's dead soon, no matter how you cut it. Prison, actual death penalty, whatever. Even lifers have a special hate for crimes involving kids.

I'm pulling for life in prison with this guy. If only because a quick death just seems too kind.

Now, in prison he can get a nice drawn out and painful death. That'd be nice. Let him live long(ish) and horribly.
 
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I'm pulling for life in prison with this guy. If only because a quick death just seems too kind.

Now, in prison he can get a nice drawn out and painful death. That'd be nice. Let him live long(ish) and horribly.

Dickie Loeb and Jeffrey Dahmer come to mind. Killing a giant NFL star's kid would put the guy at the top of the hit parade. But death on a gurney is more certain. He would be segregated and protected in prison (perhaps ineffectively) but they'd try.
 
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Dickie Loeb and Jeffrey Dahmer come to mind. Killing a giant NFL star's kid would put the guy at the top of the hit parade. But death on a gurney is more certain. He would be segregated and protected in prison (perhaps ineffectively) but they'd try.

My brother-in-law is a prison guard in Upstate NY and this scumbag from my hometown that beat on a baby until the little one got bad brain damage got assigned to his prison. The baby is my niece and I asked my bro-in-law about what happened and he said that he'll make sure he gets a "proper welcome."
 
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Dickie Loeb and Jeffrey Dahmer come to mind. Killing a giant NFL star's kid would put the guy at the top of the hit parade. But death on a gurney is more certain. He would be segregated and protected in prison (perhaps ineffectively) but they'd try.

My brother-in-law is a prison guard in Upstate NY and this scumbag from my hometown that beat on a baby until the little one got bad brain damage got assigned to his prison. The baby is my niece and I asked my bro-in-law about what happened and he said that he'll make sure he gets a "proper welcome."
 
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My brother-in-law is a prison guard in Upstate NY and this scumbag from my hometown that beat on a baby until the little one got bad brain damage got assigned to his prison. The baby is my niece and I asked my bro-in-law about what happened and he said that he'll make sure he gets a "proper welcome."

Is that the case we were arguing about a few weeks back? Is the perp another LIBF? Under any circumstances, a "proper welcome" is definitely indicated. Very sorry to hear about the little girl. What's her prognosis?
 
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Ruling by a federal judge in NY state a speed bump for anti smoking Nazis.



http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/11/judge-strikes-down-smoking-ban-in-new-york-state-parks/

Yep, I agree. There's an easy compromise here - ban it indoors all you want (except in private homes or designated cigar bars, of course). Outdoors, you have just as much of a right to avoid areas where people are smoking as the smokers do to light up. Where is the line drawn?
 
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Is that the case we were arguing about a few weeks back? Is the perp another LIBF? Under any circumstances, a "proper welcome" is definitely indicated. Very sorry to hear about the little girl. What's her prognosis?

It was a different one about a year or so ago. The little one is going to be basically at a disadvantage due to the scumbag's actions. She's going to have mental and physical problems because of it. He threw against a wall and pounded on her. Like I said, the brother-in-law enjoys making guys like that miserable.
 
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Yep, I agree. There's an easy compromise here - ban it indoors all you want (except in private homes or designated cigar bars, of course). Outdoors, you have just as much of a right to avoid areas where people are smoking as the smokers do to light up. Where is the line drawn?

The justification for indoor smoking bans is health risks. Those risks (as subjective as they tend to be) disappear almost entirely out doors. It's not as if there are no other pollutants outdoors. Ozone, CO, CO2, etc. And proponents (whether they'll admit it or not) wind up backing outdoor bans out of "preference" or "setting a good example for children" or other concepts far more nebulous and hard to justify. It's really pretty silly to suggest that in a park, some guy puffing on a cigarette presents any measurable health risk to anyone except himself.

There's a good bit of Cary Nation in anti-smoking Nazis. The same moral certitude, bordering on smugness. The same imperious attitude. I once had a lady caller on my talk show announce that she had a "thank you for not smoking" sign on her front door. She was not amused when I asked her if it was illuminated so that people driving by at night could see what a wonderful person she was. It certainly served no useful function. Except for letting people who planned to break into her home to light up know she didn't permit it. Any family, friends or neighbors would surely know of her preferences. And in a worst case scenario, if some unlucky smoker started to light up, she could merely tell them that she didn't allow smoking in her house. No, a sign on her door (sort of a reverse scarlet letter) was much better.

H. L. Mencken had these people pegged.
 
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The justification for indoor smoking bans is health risks. Those risks (as subjective as they tend to be) disappear almost entirely out doors. It's not as if there are no other pollutants outdoors. Ozone, CO, CO2, etc. And proponents (whether they'll admit it or not) wind up backing outdoor bans out of "preference" or "setting a good example for children" or other concepts far more nebulous and hard to justify. It's really pretty silly to suggest that in a park, some guy puffing on a cigarette presents any measurable health risk to anyone except himself.

There's a good bit of Cary Nation in anti-smoking Nazis. The same moral certitude, bordering on smugness. The same imperious attitude. I once had a lady caller on my talk show announce that she had a "thank you for not smoking" sign on her front door. She was not amused when I asked her if it was illuminated so that people driving by at night could see what a wonderful person she was. It certainly served no useful function. Except for letting people who planned to break into her home to light up know she didn't permit it. Any family, friends or neighbors would surely know of her preferences. And in a worst case scenario, if some unlucky smoker started to light up, she could merely tell them that she didn't allow smoking in her house. No, a sign on her door (sort of a reverse scarlet letter) was much better.

H. L. Mencken had these people pegged.

I smoke an occasional cigar. Particularly in the winter months, there's a brewery close to work which has a ventilated cigar room with leather armchairs and it's own bar. On a random Friday, I'll go shoot the sh*t with some coworkers, imagine I make the big bucks, and savor a nice Dominican cigar and a glass or two of Maker's Mark (sadly, their beer sucks). Michigan's recent indoor public smoking ban, while covering freestanding bars, included an exception for such "ventilated" cigar establishments. As long as they charge a cut fee for the privilege (that bar does), I think bars should be free of all indoor smoking regulations.
 
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