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FreshFish said:
For years, Disney World has tried to accomodate disabled children by moving them to the front of the line. No longer. So many healthy people have been faking disability, Disney has been forced to change their policy because abuse of their good-hearted impulse has become so rampant.
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That's a shame.

So many Wish kids go there.

I would think that a system could be set up so that a child with a disability or life threatening (terminal) illness could get some sort of doctor's certification of their condition.


People suck so hard. :mad:

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
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burd said:
Pio, I am interested in your thoughts about W Cronkite and his editorial in 1968 suggesting that the war was not winnable militarily. He had rock star status at the time, and his comments seem to have had a effect on the public's view of the war and possibly on high ranking politicians' choices. As a former journalist, do you have an opinion on the propriety of his editorial?
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It shouldn't come as a surprise that I think Cronkite crossed a line that should never have been approached, let alone crossed. You're either a journalist reporting "news" or you're not. When he gives us his opinion, no matter how sincere or well thought out, he's no longer a journalist. He'd become Bill O'Reilly. Especially at a time when the majority of us had as our principal source of news the lousy half hour a night offered by the three networks. It takes a certain amount of chutzpah to take advantage of his position as "America's uncle" to shove his opinions down our throat.

And, like being "a little bit pregnant," his credibility (at least on the issue of the war) was gone. He was managing editor of the CBS Evening News. After he'd offered his opinion on the war, how could we trust that he wouldn't begin selecting, editing and placing stories in his broadcast that supported his point of view? How do we know he hadn't been slanting his broadcasts all along? Is it realistic to assume he'd cross the line "just this once," then go back to being "fair and balanced" (to coin a phrase)? The answer, of course, is no. Walter Cronkite had become Rachel Maddow, only without the motorcycle boots.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
That's a shame.

So many Wish kids go there.

I would think that a system could be set up so that a child with a disability or life threatening (terminal) illness could get some sort of doctor's certification of their condition.


People suck so hard. :mad:

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
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You're right. Some sort of certification process would stop the cons. For sure, Disney hasn't stopped back dooring the rides for VIPs and such. But I can surely see how they'd get tired of the hassle. Along similar lines, I've read of parents who conspire to get their kids into "special ed," reasoning that more attention and resources will help in the long run. Would that be a variant of Danny Almonte Syndrome?
 
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Gurtholfin said:
**** those kids and their "parents."

If my kid was involved, you can bet your *** that he'd have been over there helping to clean up.


****ing with someone's house is low.

Charge them.
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When I was in Richmond, some kids went to a teacher's house and TPed it, among other things. Somehow a fire broke out and the house was significantly damaged. Just one tiny little problem: it was the wrong house.

They threw the book at 'em. All of the usual arguments were advanced to take the kids off the hook: "They're good kids, etc." Good kids don't burn down anybody's house. Play with fire at your own d*amn house!
 
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Old Pio said:
It shouldn't come as a surprise that I think Cronkite crossed a line that should never have been approached, let alone crossed. You're either a journalist reporting "news" or you're not. When he gives us his opinion, no matter how sincere or well thought out, he's no longer a journalist. Especially at a time when the majority of us had as our principal source of news the lousy half hour a night offered by the three networks. It takes a certain amount of chutzpah to take advantage of his position as "America's uncle" to shove his opinions down our throat.

And, like being "a little bit pregnant," his credibility (at least on the issue of the war) was gone. He was managing editor of the CBS Evening News. After he'd offered his opinion on the war, how could we trust that he wouldn't begin selecting, editing and placing stories in his broadcast that supported his point of view? Is it realistic to assume he'd cross the line "just this once," then go back to being "fair and balanced (to coin a phrase)? The answer, of course, is no. Walter Cronkite had become Rachel Maddow, only without the motorcycle boots.
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I'm sure there was criticism, but I don't recall much of it. A lot of talk about his conclusions but little of whether or not he should have expressed them.

How the hawks would have responded is one thing, but what of the journalists?
 
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burd said:
I'm sure there was criticism, but I don't recall much of it. A lot of talk about his conclusions but little of whether or not he should have expressed them.

How the hawks would have responded is one thing, but what of the journalists?
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LBJ when he saw the broadcast, knew that the war was over - I believe it also precipitated his 3/31/68 speech "I will not run and shall not accept my party's nomination for President."

But Pio and you raise an interesting point. Could that broadcast be the dividing line when reporters became journalists?
 
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burd said:
I'm sure there was criticism, but I don't recall much of it. A lot of talk about his conclusions but little of whether or not he should have expressed them.

How the hawks would have responded is one thing, but what of the journalists?
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Frankly, I don't remember either. CBS certainly didn't give a sh*t. They continued to employ Daniel Schorr after he'd implied a United States senator, war hero, general in the Air Force reserve and nominee for president was some sort of freakin' Nazi. They also continued to employ an a*shole who smarted off to POTUS ("Are you running for something, Mr. Rather?" "No Mr. President, are you?") A generation later that same a*shole tried to influence the outcome of a presidential race by introducing his "fake but accurate" documents. Not a record that engenders confidence in their willingness or ability to shoot straight down the middle.

Things haven't improved all that much in that regard. Witness the heavy handed, agenda driven coverage of the Zimmerman murder trial. Today, however, there are other outlets to point out the propagandizing and pandering by the 3 networks. Not so in the "good old days."
 
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joecct said:
LBJ when he saw the broadcast, knew that the war was over - I believe it also precipitated his 3/31/68 speech "I will not run and shall not accept my party's nomination for President."

But Pio and you raise an interesting point. Could that broadcast be the dividing line when reporters became journalists?
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With respect: you ask the wrong question. Cronkite considered himself to be a reporter first. The question: was that broadcast the dividing line when reporters/anchors became advocates? I suppose you could argue that when Cronkite came out of the closet the rest of us were able to judge his program by his known biases. But the problem was the 3 network newscasts were so similar, all head quartered in NY, all taking their editorial cues from the front page of the NYT, that consumers didn't have anything like the choices they have now to find a "news" source that fits their perspective.

Cronkite's broadcast was part of the reason why LBJ quit ("If I've lost Cronkite, I've lost the war"). But his performance in the New Hampshire primary. And the surprisingly strong performance of Gene McCarthy. And the sudden, cynically opportunistic decision (is there any other kind when you're talking about a Kennedy?) by Bobby to get into the race all played a role.
 
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joecct said:
How soon before Congre$$ gets involved? http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/l...-Park-Grants-KKK-Event-Permit-225435192.html?
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Hopefully, never. These losers (along with WBC and Peta to name two others) are experts at "earned" media. Their application for and approval of this permit generates this story. And will generate several others, with people being "shocked, shocked" that they're going to have a gathering on "sacred ground," etc. This will be followed by more coverage of the event itself. They will feel like they've won the lottery if a crowd of counter demonstrators and maybe even some trouble develops. Recruiting gold. Ignore them. They're low forehead chinless losers.

I would occasionally get request for coverage calls and faxes from Peta and WBC. My response in every case was: "We won't be there. But if somebody drives up and begins kicking the sh*t out of you, be sure to call, we'll be right over." If somebody knocked Freddie's cute little hat into the gutter. Or threw the babe in the cow costume under a bus, that would be news. But another typical Klan, Peta or WBC hate-a-thon most assuredly isn't. One responsibility you have in this business is to resist being played.
 
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No shooting deaths in Chicago overnight. And only nine shot. An embarrassed chamber of commerce is promising to do better.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...olence-sept-27-to-28-20130927,0,2863461.story

On the other hand, Chicago is still able to impress: new convenience store opens in a neighborhood up to its lips in booze, tobacco and lottery tickets. The proprietor is a convicted drug felon and gang banger, facing current charges. And the city was helpful enough to provide him a six figure "economic development grant" to open his doors.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-promo-austin-liquor-store-20130927,0,2407751.story
 
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Old Pio said:
No shooting deaths in Chicago overnight. And only nine shot. An embarrassed chamber of commerce is promising to do better.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...olence-sept-27-to-28-20130927,0,2863461.story
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It's up to 10 now.

On the other hand, Chicago is still able to impress: new convenience store opens in a neighborhood up to its lips in booze, tobacco and lottery tickets. The proprietor is a convicted drug felon and gang banger, facing current charges. And the city was helpful enough to provide him a six figure "economic development grant" to open his doors.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-promo-austin-liquor-store-20130927,0,2407751.story
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I wonder how many relatives of aldermen are working in the store?
 
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