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Nice planet 4: Take 2. Action!

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ScoobyDoo said:
One thing is for sure. The huge wage disparity gap, lack of a living wage, and falling median income for the middle class cannot be blamed on unions.
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Anti-union types will say that all the baggage that comes with unions sucks a lot of cash out, and makes it hard for companies to compete in a global marketplace. For that matter, they're probably right. Although I suppose that doesn't explain the income disparity (although good old fashioned greed sure does).

Frankly, the battle between plutocrats and unions is like the battle between Democrats and Republicans: one side is at best marginally less evil than the other and neither one of them could be trusted to solve the problems we all face.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
While the guy was putting his 20-month old daughter into his car, no less. ****ing scum of the earth.
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Don't want to jump to any conclusions here, but my guess is a guy whose nickname is "sniper" will be fairly impervious to any new federal gun control legislation.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Cops misusing their firearms is a becoming a problem you hear more about these days.

http://www.pnj.com/article/20130728...uties-shoot-at-man-in-his-yard?nclick_check=1

The point would be (a) to show the complete ineptitude that goes into situations like this and (b) to note how coddled and protected these guys are by their departments.

If I made a mistake at my job, as boneheaded as to shoot up a guy's car (and hit him in the leg) without talking to him, without even trying to subdue him, without even bothering to run the plates and realize that it was sitting in the driveway of the person it was registered to... I'd be fired faster than you can say "idiot", and my job is certainly not a life-and-death one. But when that happens to these guys open fire on innocent people (and their pets, for that matter)? Paid administrative leave.

Sure, there's an investigation, but I'd be curious to know just how frequently these guys actually do face some sort of consequence. How many are charged with assault using a deadly weapon or manslaughter (depending on how well they hit their targets)? How many are suspended without pay, demoted or fired? How many get relegated to gruntwork and have their careers ruined?
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And you've now provided 4 instances of this alleged "problem" with no analysis showing an increase in these kinds of incidents. Some of your examples rely solely on the versions provided by the people shot, with no balance whatsoever. Last year 120 police officers died in the line of duty. 41 were shot. 5 stabbed. And 11 deliberately run down.* Somehow your constant mewling about this "problem" overlooks those facts.

I ask again: what is your solution? Tougher civilian review boards with subpoena power? Okay by me. Weaken the power of police unions that make it virtually impossible to fire a bad cop (incidentally it's unions doing the "coddling" you're so worked up about)? Again, okay by me. Higher educational standards for prospective officers? Let's do it. But given the permutations and combinations of the hundreds of thousands of police interactions every year, it seems inevitable cops will occasionally over react or react stupidly or even criminally. Making it tougher to become a cop. And easier to get rid of a bad cop seems like the only solution. But whining about a "problem," offering a tiny handful of examples and drawing conclusions based on that small sample, while offering no suggestions on how to fix it, strikes me as anti-cop bloviation.

*http://www.odmp.org/search/year?year=2012
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Anti-union types will say that all the baggage that comes with unions sucks a lot of cash out, and makes it hard for companies to compete in a global marketplace. For that matter, they're probably right. Although I suppose that doesn't explain the income disparity (although good old fashioned greed sure does).

Frankly, the battle between plutocrats and unions is like the battle between Democrats and Republicans: one side is at best marginally less evil than the other and neither one of them could be trusted to solve the problems we all face.
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"Greed" eh? You mean like when Hillary made 99K in profits on a 1K cattle futures investment (in just a few days)? You mean that kind of greed?
 
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A Republican complaining about insider info and greed.

Now that's rich.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
A Republican complaining about insider info and greed.

Now that's rich.
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No complaints. Just wondering if "greed" is called something different when a libtard heroine cow and her presidential pardon selling husband are guilty of it.
 
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It's so refreshing that OP is above petty name-calling.
 
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JJsr announcing he's determined to recapture the title as America's most divisive "civil rights" leader. In Florida. Comparing the governor to George Wallace. And the state to Selma. Maybe he can regale those fools with the story of how MLK "died in his arms." It was a lie then and it's still a lie. Who is it, exactly, who looks to this liar and thief for "leadership?"

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-florida-governor-jesse-jackson-20130731,0,503717.story
 
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