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Nice planet 4: Take 2. Action!

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goldy_331 said:
So if Tryvon could have legally carried a gun there would have been a better outcome? A dead Hispanic neighborhood watch person is better than a dead teenager?
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No, but apparently a dead black teenager is better than a dead Hispanic Watch Person. There's plenty of evidence to support that.
 
goldy_331 said:
So if Tryvon could have legally carried a gun there would have been a better outcome? A dead Hispanic neighborhood watch person is better than a dead teenager?
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No, Charles Blow is black. A dead Hispanic is better than a dead African American.

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This ugly **** we justify in the name of racial justice... Again, if you need an adjective before justice then it isn't justice
 
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I think the comment about TM not being able to carry a gun was more directed at it not being a fair fight - in a broad sense.

An adult can carry a gun for self defense, a minor cannot.


Looking at doughy Zimmerman, I think it's safe to assume that had he NOT been able to carry a gun, he wouldn't have had the balls to follow the kid.
 
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Patman said:
No, Charles Blow is black. A dead Hispanic is better than a dead African American.

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This ugly **** we justify in the name of racial justice... Again, if you need an adjective before justice then it isn't justice
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1,000 shootings in Chicago through June 30th. 200 dead. Has Charles Blow written even one column about that?
 
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Old Pio said:
1,000 shootings in Chicago through June 30th. 200 dead. Has Charles Blow written even one column about that?
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And the "reprisals" that are happening, perpetrated by black youths.

And we're supposed to wonder why they're profiled?


Stereotypes don't materialize out of the ether. Are they fair? Of course not, but responsibility for those stereotypes falls on more than just one party.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
I remember when the MTU Rifle Club had to write a range disaster/evacuation plan into the org charter. We made sure to include plans for a Lake Superior seiche, a zombie incursion, and The Rapture.
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Highest marks for seiche. As a kid we'd occasionally see one inundate the Outer Drive.
 
Gurtholfin said:
I think the comment about TM not being able to carry a gun was more directed at it not being a fair fight - in a broad sense.

An adult carry a gun for self defense, a minor cannot.


Looking at doughy Zimmerman, I think it's safe to assume that had he NOT been able to carry a gun, he wouldn't have had the balls to follow the kid.
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You assume he followed him, that's not in evidence
 
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Patman said:
You assume he followed him, that's not in evidence
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He didn't get out of his car and follow him on foot?


FWIW and before anyone assumes what my views on this are - I believe that the correct verdict was rendered.

Regardless, Zimmerman seems like a tough guy with a gun who'd be a chicken**** without it.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
He didn't get out of his car and follow him on foot?


FWIW and before anyone assumes what my views on this are - I believe that the correct verdict was rendered.

Regardless, Zimmerman seems like a tough guy with a gun who'd be a chicken**** without it.
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Two things to note on what you wrote. First, someone testified that Zimmerman was walking away from Martin at the time when the physical altercation began. Based upon everything that was called into question during the case, we'll simply never know for certain. Second, the various people who were character witnesses for the defense all said, more or less, what you just said. Unarmed, Zimmerman was physically weak, even with martial arts training he would not have been able to offer much of a defense; I think the word used was "weakling".
 
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St. Clown said:
Two things to note on what you wrote. First, someone testified that Zimmerman was walking away from Martin at the time when the physical altercation began. Based upon everything that was called into question during the case, we'll simply never know for certain.
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This is where things get murky as to fault. If true, and if TM actually did start the physical fight, well... things didn't go too well from there.

I don't blame the kid for being ****ed as he had every right to be there and NOT be followed by a doughy fatass coward. But at some point, being ****ed doesn't mean you should start a fight - if that's what actually happened. You just never know who you are dealing with or how things could escalate.
 
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And now, for today's words of wisdom, an author and leader of the Civil Rights movement from the late 19th and early 20th century:

Booker T Washington said:
There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.
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Gurtholfin said:
I don't blame the kid for being ****ed as he had every right to be there and NOT be followed by a doughy fatass coward. But at some point, being ****ed doesn't mean you should start a fight - if that's what actually happened. You just never know who you are dealing with or how things could escalate.
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And the "doughy fatass coward" lived in the development, was on the neighborhood watch and had just as much right to be there, if not more, than Martin. He didn't deserve to be attacked and had the right to defend himself.
 
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goldy_331 said:
And the "doughy fatass coward" lived in the development, was on the neighborhood watch and had just as much right to be there, if not more, than Martin. He didn't deserve to be attacked and had the right to defend himself.
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Agreed.


Assuming of course that's what happened. Who knows if the doughy fatass coward said something that escalated tensions?

Cooler heads probably should have prevailed on both sides.
 
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