Nice Planet 2012

[The Rube]

Re: Nice Planet 2012

I remember an old rumor that the LA Kings added purple to the silver, black and white because gangs were using the jerseys to show colors.

I don't doubt it. My H.S. (early 90's) banned anything sports related with basic black/silver colors (Kings, Spurs, etc) because of gang stuff. Also banned British Knights shoes, because the BK on the side sometimes signified "Bloods Killer."

 

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

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I'm curious to know what gangs have 14, 41, and 31. I think I know the other 3.

 

[Old Pio]

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Since when is gender reassignment surgery a medical necessity?


Kids can't wear Manning jerseys to school in Greely, CO because gangs.

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2012/...on-manning-jerseys-to-school/?test=latestnews

Ask Sandra Fluke, the 30-year old school girl who thinks you ought to pay for her birth control. She wrote a paper laying it all out. Gender-bender or whatever they call it, is a medical condition, therefore gender reassignment surgery is medically necessary and should be paid for by health plans (that's you again, bub).

 

[The Rube]

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Then we really need to change that wording that defines "necessity." Hey, if you wanna switch organs, go for it. I don't care. Don't ask me to pay for it.

 

[Gurtholfin]

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This is a tough one. At face value it can seem ludicrous that all must be punished for the actions/affiliations of a few, but what are you going to do? You can't just tell certain individuals that they can't wear the number without stirring up a heap of (possibly legal) trouble.

On the other hand, not letting a gang member wear his number isn't going to stop him from being a gang member. The kids most likely know who the gang members are, even without a Manning jersey.

Would a gang member threaten a non-member for wearing the jersey that they've adopted?

Solution - kill gang members, wear jerseys.

 

[The Rube]

Re: Nice Planet 2012

This is a tough one. At face value it can seem ludicrous that all must be punished for the actions/affiliations of a few, but what are you going to do? You can't just tell certain individuals that they can't wear the number without stirring up a heap of (possibly legal) trouble.

On the other hand, not letting a gang member wear his number isn't going to stop him from being a gang member. The kids most likely know who the gang members are, even without a Manning jersey.

Would a gang member threaten a non-member for wearing the jersey that they've adopted?

Solution - kill gang members, wear jerseys.

Possibly, due to not knowing if the jersey-wearer was just a fan of that team/player or a rival gang member. Yes, it's stupid, but that's the way it is.

 

[Gurtholfin]

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Ask Sandra Fluke, the 30-year old school girl who thinks you ought to pay for her birth control. She wrote a paper laying it all out. Gender-bender or whatever they call it, is a medical condition, therefore gender reassignment surgery is medically necessary and should be paid for by health plans (that's you again, bub).

Having it be a medical condition doesn't make it a medically necessary procedure. Male pattern baldness is a medical condition as is the need for glasses (faulty eyes).

Taking hair from your butt to plant it in your head is not covered nor is lasik.

Nor should this guy's deali-o. Obviously.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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Having it be a medical condition doesn't make it a medically necessary procedure. Male pattern baldness is a medical condition as is the need for glasses (faulty eyes).

Taking hair from your butt to plant it in your head is not covered nor is lasik.

Nor should this guy's deali-o. Obviously.

Exactly. We get stuck paying for thousands of stupid things like this and wonder why we have no money.

I don't want to pay for that *****'s birth control either. I buy my own rubbers, she can do the same.

 

[Twitch Boy]

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I don't doubt it. My H.S. (early 90's) banned anything sports related with basic black/silver colors (Kings, Spurs, etc) because of gang stuff. Also banned British Knights shoes, because the BK on the side sometimes signified "Bloods Killer."

For a while during the 90's in Saginaw gangs were targeting white cars. We bought a white '96 Dodge Intrepid to serve as my mother's car. She almost didn't buy it because of this, but liked the look too much in the end.

We also had the silver/black thing, but with the LA/Oakland Raiders. Us kids for some bizarre reason LOVED the Charlotte Hornets. No idea why (this was back when the Pistons sucked and switched to that godawful teal monstrosity.)

 

[bigblue_dl]

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For a while during the 90's in Saginaw gangs were targeting white cars. We bought a white '96 Dodge Intrepid to serve as my mother's car. She almost didn't buy it because of this, but liked the look too much in the end.

We also had the silver/black thing, but with the LA/Oakland Raiders. Us kids for some bizarre reason LOVED the Charlotte Hornets. No idea why (this was back when the Pistons sucked and switched to that godawful teal monstrosity.)

We didn't have gang problems when I was in school, and no its not because I went to a hick farm school. My high school served a town of 20,000, and there were only 3 or 4 of us in my grade that came from farm families. The closest thing we had to a gang was the indian tribe, and really, they were just dumbasses with WAYYYYY too much money. My last 2 years some other minorities started showing up and we got a few blacks and mexis in school, so I imagine they have formed gangs now, that seems like what they all do.

 

[Old Pio]

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Exactly. We get stuck paying for thousands of stupid things like this and wonder why we have no money.

I don't want to pay for that *****'s birth control either. I buy my own rubbers, she can do the same.

Let's offer this putz a deal: We'll give you the surgery but we'll change your sentence. So after you recover, you get a hot shot. Besides, he's an extremely ugly "woman." Like the man said: "ugly enough to stop sh*t in mid-air."

 

[Old Pio]

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Judge says: either "Dr." Hasan shaves or the Army will shave him. Please, please, please refuse you worthless pos. How many GI's do you suppose would volunteer for that fatigue detail? I'd imagine some of them wouldn't want to stop with the beard. They'd want to leave him looking like David Ferry, suffering from alopetia totalis.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...shooting-suspect-must-be-forcibly-shaved?lite

 

[duper]

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Exactly. We get stuck paying for thousands of stupid things like this and wonder why we have no money.

I don't want to pay for that *****'s birth control either. I buy my own rubbers, she can do the same.

You do realize that if insurance paid for birth control, premiums would (or should) go down, right? By insisting that you (I'm not sure how "her insurance policy" = "you" to begin with) not pay for her birth control, you are raising the price of your own insurance. Smart move.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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You do realize that if insurance paid for birth control, premiums would (or should) go down, right? By insisting that you (I'm not sure how "her insurance policy" = "you" to begin with) not pay for her birth control, you are raising the price of your own insurance. Smart move.

It is so sad that we live in a country where people can't be expected to take care of themselves. I don't understand how some people can have so little self-respect.

 

[duper]

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It is so sad that we live in a country where people can't be expected to take care of themselves. I don't understand how some people can have so little self-respect.

I agree that a lot of people need to take more responsibility for themselves. I fail entirely, however, to see how having birth control covered by health insurance fits under that category.

I'm pretty sure this is not something anyone here will change anyone else's mind about.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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I agree that a lot of people need to take more responsibility for themselves. I fail entirely, however, to see how having birth control covered by health insurance fits under that category.

Because you're implying that if an insurance company doesn't provide birth control, some people won't use it, which leads to higher health insurance costs. If people had more self responsibility, they'd use birth control because it is the smart, responsible thing to do, not only when it is provided by the insurance company.

 

[duper]

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Because you're implying that if an insurance company doesn't provide birth control, some people won't use it, which leads to higher health insurance costs. If people had more self responsibility, they'd use birth control because it is the smart, responsible thing to do, not only when it is provided by the insurance company.

Yeah, ok. I can see that. I still disagree, but I can at least see the point. But regardless, it boggles my mind that how people think of insurance. When someone else goes in to see the doctor, for any reason, I am not paying for that. They are paying for it, through their insurance. So ultimately, I can't understand why anyone thinks that they are paying for anyone else's birth control.

We do all share the cost of BIG things like cancer treatment, but even if birth control is covered, someone who lives a relatively healthy life, has no catastrophic injuries, and doesn't get some horrible illness like cancer will still pay much more into their policy than they get out of it. To my way of thinking, that means no one else is paying for their health care.

 

[MountieBoyOz]

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I'll share a personal story about the pills. My wife growing up got her cycle for the first time like a normal woman. However, after that she'd go 6-9 months without one. She was raised by her grandmother who basically lived in the stone age and refused to get her anything to help because she thought her granddaughter would go out and do it the next day. My wife finally moved in with her mom after her mom got back from Germany and immediately got the pill after hearing about what happened. My wife said to me she just wanted to feel normal and not like some freak who can't function. She never had issues until she got pregnant with Hailey (who was conceived on the pill... don't get me started on that.) She went back on it after Hailey was born.

My wife went off of the pills so we could try to have a child, but we miscarried last year. She didn't back on the pill because she wanted to try again, but it was 6 months and no cycle. However, the doc prescribed them and she felt better. She went off of them to try again and no cycle again. She went to her OB and they gave her Provera hoping to kickstart her, but nothing was successful. When she was on her meds, she was happy and sane. When she's off of them, she's a wreck and emotional. It's been very trying.

I understand the position of not wanting to pay for birth control, but women need for other reasons than to go out and slut it up. Some women need to function properly and normal.

 

[The Rube]

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There are always exceptions. That's fine. But the general rules need to be changed.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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I'll share a personal story about the pills. My wife growing up got her cycle for the first time like a normal woman. However, after that she'd go 6-9 months. She was raised by her grandmother who basically lived in the stone age and refused to get her anything to help because she thought her granddaughter would go out and do it the next day. My wife finally moved in with her mom after her mom got back from Germany and immediately got the pill after hearing about what happened. My wife said to me she just wanted to feel normal and not like some freak who can't function. She never had issues until she got pregnant with Hailey (who was conceived on the pill... don't get me started on that.) She went back on it after Hailey was born.

My wife went off of the pills so we could try to have a child, but we miscarried last year. She didn't back on the pill because she wanted to try again, but it was 6 months and no cycle. However, the doc prescribed them and she felt better. She went off of them to try again and no cycle again. She went to her OB and they gave her Provera hoping to kickstart her, but nothing was successful. When she was on her meds, she was happy and sane. When she's off of them, she's a wreck and emotional. It's been very trying.

I understand the position of not wanting to pay for birth control, but women need for other reasons than to go out and slut it up. Some women need to function properly and normal.

In this case, it is a medication, and should be treated as such.