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Nice Planet 13: This Planet Sucks

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Saw somewhere that for $400ish United could have just bought their employees an Uber to Louisville.
 
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Twitch Boy said:
Saw somewhere that for $400ish United could have just bought their employees an Uber to Chicago.
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I'm going to guess the flight crew's union contracts frown upon forcing employees to Uber from Chicago to Louisville. But I suppose if they had done that, we could have been listening to the aggrieved employees and their union reps barking about United.
 
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I'm going to guess the flight crew's union contracts frown upon forcing employees to Uber from Chicago to Louisville. But I suppose if they had done that, we could have been listening to the aggrieved employees and their union reps barking about United.
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And their stock wouldnt have crapped the bed.
 
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It seems to me that lost in all the discussion about whether United had a legal right to remove the passenger is a simple fact -- it's their plane. I'm certainly no expert in aviation law, but from what I've read, carriers have a right to control their own bumping processes. So long as they meet certain minimum requirements, it's "legal." They have to have a policy, and have it clearly stated. They need to first ask for volunteers. They need to offer some compensation to see if they can get people to volunteer. If they don't get enough volunteers, they need to have an established policy as to who they involuntarily bump. Once they do that, I'm pretty sure it's all "legal."
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From today's letter section of the Star Tribune.

http://www.startribune.com/readers-...nimum-wage-proposal-in-minneapolis/419436364/

If true it pretty much sums it up and increases the cash out value for the passenger who was assaulted by the airline and the police.
From today's letter section of the Star Tribune.

Dao was firmly within his legal rights to refuse deboarding, according to United's own contract for carriage. While it is true that a passenger may be denied boarding due to overbooking (under Rule 25, Denial of Boarding), once a passenger has been boarded, the rules change. At that point, Rule 21, Refusal of Transport, is the applicable rule; it specifies why a boarded passenger can be thrown off a plane, and neither overbooking nor the convenience of the airline is on the list. In fact, no passenger then boarded on Flight 3411 met the criteria of Rule 21. So if United was unable to bribe passengers to give up their seats, it was contractually obligated to fly with the people on board, and its crew would have had to find another way to get to Louisville.

Not only was United morally wrong, it was legally wrong, too. And it appears that no United employee, including the CEO, has been properly instructed in contractual obligations. Fortunately, it seems that Chicago's airport police have realized that they are not hired muscle for the airline; all three officers involved have been suspended.

Keith Pickering, Watertown
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That doesnt fit with the narrative though that United was in the right though...
 
Handyman said:
That doesnt fit with the narrative though that United was in the right though...
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Don't you read gpl? United could do what they wanted because the guy acted like a little girl and got arrested once
 
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GPL has always been like that. There a few real dicks on there with a serious napoleon complex. It's why I left.
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Don't you read gpl? United could do what they wanted because the guy acted like a little girl and got arrested once
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Well that's just streaky and he's your typical authoritarian who gets off on people being harmed even if all evidence indicates that they weren't in the wrong. :rolleyes: The Trayvon debate over there however many years ago made it pretty obvious which camp people fell into as far as authoritarianism and racism.
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GPL has always been like that. There a few real dicks on there with a serious napoleon complex. It's why I left.
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I wondered about that and kinda figured it was something along those lines.
 
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GPL has always been like that. There a few real dicks on there with a serious napoleon complex. It's why I left.
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Yeah it was bad. I don't get into a ton of threads, but the pure defense of a large corp doing what they did sickened me. I quit participating. You can glean a lot about their beliefs in how they react and it's nothing close to my values. There are of course a few who didn't feel that way but they got yelled down
 
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Well that's just streaky and he's your typical authoritarian who gets off on people being harmed even if all evidence indicates that they weren't in the wrong. :rolleyes: The Trayvon debate over there however many years ago made it pretty obvious which camp people fell into as far as authoritarianism and racism.

I wondered about that and kinda figured it was something along those lines.
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It was not just streaky
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Yeah it was bad. I don't get into a ton of threads, but the pure defense of a large corp doing what they did sickened me. I quit participating. You can glean a lot about their beliefs in how they react and it's nothing close to my values. There are of course a few who didn't feel that way but they got yelled down
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it's just a bunch of white men who confuse working hard with having it hard.

Agreed on the values piece. It's just not worth it.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
GPL has always been like that. There a few real dicks on there with a serious napoleon complex. It's why I left.
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Yeah I wont lie...it is almost unreadable these days. If the Wild lose tonight I wont go back there for a while because the whining will get out of control.

(the politics there is hilarious because it is basically every lame internet cliche down to drooling over any chick that they can think of while acting macho and talking about wussies)

Put it this way the Pet Peeve thread was closed because someone was upset about some misogynistic talk and that lead to a bunch of people trolling hardcore.
 
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