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NHL-CWHL affiliation on the horizon

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The support can come from the audience at large if they can find their market segment....Hux, that's what I mean with softball...the Southwest enjoys going to the games to watch a different game then hardball, it's the niche for softball enthusiasts, AND it doesn't hurt when they can watch women athletes like Jennie Finch! Sure the women's game isn't the men's game but their technique is as good as the men's without the checks and crashing the net....just a different game to be accepted as such, like the WNBA doesn't have a lot of jamming and alley-oops.....then again maybe it will all come with time....

First things first, they need to get a solid leadership foundation in there. They need to then collective decide which target market they wish to seek, the NHL or the grassroots population.

Not sure about the softball thing as I am unfamiliar with it but the WNBA loses millions every year, at last check. What the NBA loses is recouped in an every growing TV audience and the marketing aspect. Plus, the number of girl's playing basketball in the US far outweighs the number of girls playing hockey both in Canada and the US combined!

The problem, and this is the big one, is that SJS felt that she , yes she, could ride the wave of popularity from the Olympics when 14,000+ were watching the games. What she failed to recognize, and seeing her past decisions this doesn't surprise me, is that it was the OLYMPICS!!! If I could have had ducats to watch nude Men's Mud-wrestling I would have done it for the experience of being at the Olympics alone!!

Get rid of SJS, BA and the OW and there would be many peeps ready to pick up the little slack they leave behind and grow something truly valuable and something the NHL might want to be apart of!!!
 
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In the beginning, I was trying to be positive and hopeful. However, it saddens me to say, that, after reading all the reports of the first month of games, etc, nothing has changed with this league. It's still nothing more than a minor hockey extension of the OWHA, and as such, in its current form, will never be more than the equivalent of boys Midget houseleague, both in quality and in fan support. And that's just plain criminal.

No marketing, no major sponsor support, no team equipment, poor ice time allocation, fundraising to offset expenses, and the list goes on. Just like last year. I'm just glad my D decided to forego this league and get on with her life and career in a different direction.

In it's current form, I'm sorry to say, that this league is doomed...and that makes me just sad.
 
Re: NHL-CWHL affiliation on the horizon

In the beginning, I was trying to be positive and hopeful. However, it saddens me to say, that, after reading all the reports of the first month of games, etc, nothing has changed with this league. It's still nothing more than a minor hockey extension of the OWHA, and as such, in its current form, will never be more than the equivalent of boys Midget houseleague, both in quality and in fan support. And that's just plain criminal.

No marketing, no major sponsor support, no team equipment, poor ice time allocation, fundraising to offset expenses, and the list goes on. Just like last year. I'm just glad my D decided to forego this league and get on with her life and career in a different direction.

In it's current form, I'm sorry to say, that this league is doomed...and that makes me just sad.

Seymore, don't give up the ship just yet. I am hopeful the powers that be will look at what is working and what is not working and make the necessary changes so that this league survives. I am probably oversimplifying there, and Trillium or Brokentwigg could add some insight as they are a lot closer to the situation than I am, but in the best interests of all involved, I think they know that some things need to be changed, namely the things you mention in your second paragraph ... marketing, sponsors, equipment, ice time, fundraising, etc.. With all the commuting to work that is probably done there in the GTA, I would think a little radio advertising would help, maybe even a weekly radio show during drive time about the CWHL. They could have a different guest on each week (several Olympians playing on these teams) or take calls from fans. Maybe I am reaching on that one. Blame it on the broadcast-journalism-major/used-to-work-in-radio side of me. I certainly agree wholeheartedly that there is a lot of work to do with this league, but I don't think they are doomed just yet. Let's all try to stay positive and at least take a wait and see approach before we bury this league just yet.
 
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Seymore, don't give up the ship just yet. I am hopeful the powers that be will look at what is working and what is not working and make the necessary changes so that this league survives. I am probably oversimplifying there, and Trillium or Brokentwigg could add some insight as they are a lot closer to the situation than I am, but in the best interests of all involved, I think they know that some things need to be changed, namely the things you mention in your second paragraph ... marketing, sponsors, equipment, ice time, fundraising, etc.. With all the commuting to work that is probably done there in the GTA, I would think a little radio advertising would help, maybe even a weekly radio show during drive time about the CWHL. They could have a different guest on each week (several Olympians playing on these teams) or take calls from fans. Maybe I am reaching on that one. Blame it on the broadcast-journalism-major/used-to-work-in-radio side of me. I certainly agree wholeheartedly that there is a lot of work to do with this league, but I don't think they are doomed just yet. Let's all try to stay positive and at least take a wait and see approach before we bury this league just yet.

The radio aspect was attempted in the first season and was great at getting the word out there. It was through a webcast show but someone, and I am trying to be positive here Seymore, shot that down!!!

I hope you understand the frustration that some of us feel in seeing the dismantling of this league. Simply put, the best thing that could happen is for this ship to sink!! It is the only way to move forward.
 
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I did notice the uniform situation Sunday (impossible to miss) and thought it was sort of sad that they couldn't get a sponsor to provide uniforms for the girls so that they all matched. You were right, all sorts of different colored hockey shorts and helmets. Mrs 86 and I could tell where everyone played their college hockey because a lot of them had their college stuff on.

I was told by several players that Bauer is supplying equipment(helmets and gloves) to all teams, but the order was delayed for the first weekend.
 
Re: NHL-CWHL affiliation on the horizon

I was told by several players that Bauer is supplying equipment(helmets and gloves) to all teams, but the order was delayed for the first weekend.


Yes Bauer is supplying equipment from what I have been told, but that is at cost and I heard it was all black equipment. Not sure as to that but if that's the case, step aside Bauer as there would be other opportunities out there!!
 
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went to the Boston-Burlington game today and really enjoyed the game...I was very disappointed at the crowd size, since I never heard anything from the local media, nor did I see any local girls teams there, as if prewarned about the game....as for the game action, it was fine...there was about 10 checking/contact plays that would've definitely been called in a women's college game so hopefully that will be one of the differences in their game....I realize that the league isn't fighting for a fan like me, but in watching the game, it was fast paced, good passing, nice play making, good execution and an interesting game, 6-4 final score where Boston was up 4-0 and Burlington closed it to 5-4....for me, worth the 5 bucks, but I have to agree with those of you here that seem to know the inside scoops, the league HAS to do a better marketing, and advanced job for the Ladies....they are too talented, and deserve their own chance to be a pro!
 
Okay - Next time, we'll get a fish!

Okay - Next time, we'll get a fish!

York's Cronin suiting up for Boston Blades hockey team
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Courtesy photo York’s Mandy Cronin, shown here with the Brampton Thunder, now plays with the Boston Blades of the Canadian Women’s Hockey League.
By Mike Sullivan
October 31, 2010 9:35 AM
At 11 o'clock this morning, when many of you are getting your little ghosts and goblins in costume for trick-or-treating, Mandy Cronin of York, Maine, will be donning a costume of her own — a Boston Blades uniform.

Cronin, who played goalie for the UMaine-Orono women's hockey team (Class of 2002), isn't going on the prowl for candy, though. She's going to be playing professional hockey in the Whittemore Center at the University of New Hampshire in Durham. The Blades are the newest entry in the professional Canadian Women's Hockey League, and they have the distinction of being the first United States-based team the league has had since its inception in 2007.

The Blades played their first-ever game Saturday at Harvard, and their second game is this morning in Durham. Cronin, 30, is excited to be at "The Whitt" as it's a place she remembers well. One memory in particular stands out.

"Everyone knows the UNH fans throw a big fish on the ice when the Wildcats score their first goal," Cronin said. "Well, someone on our team my sophomore or junior year, who I won't name, found the fish before the game and stole it. It went right in the dressing room trash can. So when they scored their first goal, there was no fish for them to throw out," Cronin recalled with a laugh.

"Unfortunately, on their second goal, the fish had been found or they went and got another one because it landed out on the ice," she said.

Now she returns to Durham on a team that wants to see the fish come out, and on a team composed of professionals. That pro status comes with some responsibility and challenges not normally associated with a modern-day professional athlete, though; Cronin isn't yet getting paid for this gig. Nobody in the league, players or coaches, is.

Cronin is depending on sponsorships to help her make the concept of being home in New England a permanent arrangement. That would, at least in theory at this point, include expanding her Toronto-based hockey school M-Power Hockey, to this area.

"If I can find sponsors, it will help me financially, and allow me to be in the local community more, giving back on and off the ice," said Cronin, who began her hockey career in York at the age of 5. "I've wanted to do this for so long."

Because she still has obligations and responsibilities related to M-Power Hockey, Cronin will have to at times endure a heavy commute to Toronto. That's a 10-hour process if you want to just skip the MapQuest, so the motivation to find sponsors that will allow her to be more local is great.

Speaking of local, the Blades are being coached by a familiar face here in Durham, Erin (Whitten) Hamlen. The longtime U.S. National Team member starred in goal for UNH (Class of 1993) and served as associate head coach under Brian McCloskey for the past 10 seasons. Hamlen, a Hampton resident, is perhaps the perfect coach for Cronin. Both have many years of pro hockey experience under their belt, and they're obviously both goalies so there is much to share and a lot of techniques, ideas and approaches to bounce off of each other.

Although Cronin just joined the team two weeks ago, Hamlen likes what she has seen thus far.

"Her work ethic is very impressive," Hamlen pointed out. "She appears to be a goalie that takes practice to the full extent and gets upset when she lets in goals that she knows she should have saved. I know she'll continue to work hard to push our players."

Cronin isn't all business all the time, though.

"Though she remains focused, Mandy also seems to be having fun out there," Hamlen added. "This shows me that she can remain relaxed and focused and as long as she carries this into games, I won't worry about our goaltending."

Goaltending in the CWHL (formerly the National Women's Hockey League) is nothing new to Cronin, mind you. She has played professionally for eight years and most recently has been a goaltender for the Brampton Thunder for the past four, helping them win back-to-back league championships in 2007 and 2008.

Still, there are some butterflies floating around in her stomach.

"There are definitely nerves that come with it because this is a startup program and not being in Canada, we're the league newbies," Cronin said. "I'm happy to be able to bring my veteran status here. I've been in this league a long time. I played for a dominant team in Brampton, and now I want to make sure I'm a good representative for the Blades and help this team make a strong impression."

Boston's schedule includes stops at arenas all around New England this season. That, according to general manager Paul Hendrickson, is by design. And to say Hendrickson is glad Cronin is a part of it would be an understatement.

"I had seen Mandy on the ice the last two years," Hendrickson said. "I've been to many CWHL games and I've very familiar with her play on the ice. It's really been a delight getting to know her. She's really outgoing and we're glad to have her."

Cronin is joined on the Blades by several U.S. National team veterans, including Angela Ruggiero, not to mention many former UNH standouts like Kacey Bellamy, among others.

"Aside from the Olympics, this is the top brand of women's hockey you'll see," Cronin said. "We're all trying to make it work for the love of the game. We all want to make this work."

You'll see that effort firsthand today at UNH. If by chance you see a fish land on the ice, it means the Boston Blades are having a happy Halloween.
 
Re: Okay - Next time, we'll get a fish!

Re: Okay - Next time, we'll get a fish!

DC78-82,

Thanks for posting the article. What a great story! I always enjoyed making the drive to the Whitt as I found the Kitty Litter crew almost as entertaining as the action on the ice. Congrats again to the Boston Blades for its opening weekend sweep. Best of luck to all the teams in the league.
 
Re: Okay - Next time, we'll get a fish!

Re: Okay - Next time, we'll get a fish!

Well, here we go. Just found out that one coach is considering resigning because of broken promises. (ie. promised a paycheque...and then told there was no $$$). I'm afraid this league is going nowhere fast. I'm so disappointed in what's transpired. The players, coaches, GMs, etc deserve much better treatment, but then again, anything that's REMOTELY associated with the OWHA will ultimately disappoint.
 
Re: Okay - Next time, we'll get a fish!

Re: Okay - Next time, we'll get a fish!

Well, here we go. Just found out that one coach is considering resigning because of broken promises. (ie. promised a paycheque...and then told there was no $$$). I'm afraid this league is going nowhere fast. I'm so disappointed in what's transpired. The players, coaches, GMs, etc deserve much better treatment, but then again, anything that's REMOTELY associated with the OWHA will ultimately disappoint.

Wow, sad news, that's for sure! :(
 
Re: Okay - Next time, we'll get a fish!

Re: Okay - Next time, we'll get a fish!

Well, here we go. Just found out that one coach is considering resigning because of broken promises. (ie. promised a paycheque...and then told there was no $$$). I'm afraid this league is going nowhere fast. I'm so disappointed in what's transpired. The players, coaches, GMs, etc deserve much better treatment, but then again, anything that's REMOTELY associated with the OWHA will ultimately disappoint.

Seymore...won't be the last! There have been promises made for 3 years now!! I am a firm believer in not saying anything until you have all your ducks in a row. The CWHL has never looked at it from that angle and have felt it necessary to build themselves up before the puck drops to garner interest in their game.

I am telling you, the downfall of this league has more to do with the CWHL leadership then it does with the OWHA! Even though the OWHA was instrumental in getting BA into her current position. Now her credibility is even being questioned which to me isn't surprising!! She is not an administrator for league activities!

Once the decision is made to get those two out, things will improve as some old faces would probably jump back in to assist. But as I see it now, SJS is like the OWHA..she is there for life!! She will not do what is best for the game...and step aside.
 
Re: Okay - Next time, we'll get a fish!

Re: Okay - Next time, we'll get a fish!

I am a firm believer in not saying anything until you have all your ducks in a row.

Brokentwigg, agree with this 100%. If the powers that be did not plan ahead and make sure everything was in place that needed to be in place for this league to survive and be successful (sponsors, equipment, funding, etc.), then they did a disservice to everyone involved. It's a great idea, having a women's professional hockey league, but it seems like some things may have been missed in the planning stages. I am trying to be as nice and positive as I can with this because I am on the outside looking in, I am not as close to the situation as you and others are. As I have indicated before, I would really like to see this league flourish. I had a great time up there ... I want to come up again and see more games! If the league folds, well, I won't be able to do that.
 
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Brokentwigg, agree with this 100%. If the powers that be did not plan ahead and make sure everything was in place that needed to be in place for this league to survive and be successful (sponsors, equipment, funding, etc.), then they did a disservice to everyone involved. It's a great idea, having a women's professional hockey league, but it seems like some things may have been missed in the planning stages. I am trying to be as nice and positive as I can with this because I am on the outside looking in, I am not as close to the situation as you and others are. As I have indicated before, I would really like to see this league flourish. I had a great time up there ... I want to come up again and see more games! If the league folds, well, I won't be able to do that.


OSU..there will always be a place for these players to play, and I don't just mean the National Team players!! To me, it has always been about more than just the Nat team players! Don't you worry, if this league folds, there will be people there to ensure that these players, all players, have a place to play!! It has been done before and will be done gain...this time with players at an arms length in the development phase!!
 
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Thanks for posting that article Seymore...now I know who is always being referred to as SJS!
 
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I find it interesting that at the "professional" level, a team official is one of the player's mothers. Not sure that the best interest of the team comes before the best interest of the daughter. Not saying that's the case, but I have already seen some things that make me wonder.
 
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I find it interesting that at the "professional" level, a team official is one of the player's mothers. Not sure that the best interest of the team comes before the best interest of the daughter. Not saying that's the case, but I have already seen some things that make me wonder.

Hate to say it, but there's nothing "professional" about this league as it sits. It's just another minor hockey league. Sad....very sad.
 
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