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NHL 2016.1 -- Anyone have a Laine on a new Auston?

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Spartanforlife4 said:
Women made out pretty well.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...y-women-dispute-world-championships/99538056/

70,000 a year versus 1,250, and that was really just 6,000 in Olympic years.
Same accommodations as men when traveling.
Establishment of an advisory council for the growth of women's hockey. Not sure how this didn't already exist but it's there now.
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What's embarrassing on USA Hockey's part is how they actively tried to employ scab workers in an effort to just brush this under the rug.

And whoever negotiated on behalf of the women, Jesus, hire her for other player unions. :eek: I'm glad to see that the women's hockey team will now have actual support.

Will be interesting to see if a fraction of this trickles into the CWHL and NWHL.
 
aparch said:
What's embarrassing on USA Hockey's part is how they actively tried to employ scab workers in an effort to just brush this under the rug.

And whoever negotiated on behalf of the women, Jesus, hire her for other player unions. :eek: I'm glad to see that the women's hockey team will now have actual support.

Will be interesting to see if a fraction of this trickles into the CWHL and NWHL.
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I heard they were scavenging as far down as U16 and Rec league. I'm sure that team would've been able to compete against Canada...
 
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Thread about the women on Siouxsports forum is worth a read for the lulz. Lots of angry, old, misogyinst dudes b*tching about SJWs, and essentially calling the decision communism. :D
 
aparch said:
What's embarrassing on USA Hockey's part is how they actively tried to employ scab workers in an effort to just brush this under the rug.

And whoever negotiated on behalf of the women, Jesus, hire her for other player unions. :eek: I'm glad to see that the women's hockey team will now have actual support.

Will be interesting to see if a fraction of this trickles into the CWHL and NWHL.
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I gotta think the rumblings of the men's players willing to boycott probably helped as well. But, yeah, whoever that negotiator is deserves a raise.
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Thread about the women on Siouxsports forum is worth a read for the lulz. Lots of angry, old, misogyinst dudes b*tching about SJWs, and essentially calling the decision communism. :D
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JFC wow that was a read.

Really? I am not on board for them getting paid anything. You see, the men don't get paid anything either. Being chosen for the National Team is an honor. You go to serve voluntarily. Now, any benefits that come with being on the team, hotel, travel arrangements, training stipend, etc. should be exactly equal to what the men's team receives, beyond that, like the salary requested that was part of their demands, no way.

USA Hockey is not a professional hockey organization. It does not employ hockey players for its teams. It does not, or should not, keep a standing National Team roster. If it decides to do this for the WH program then they have to do it for the men, and pay the men equally, even though they already make millions paying professional hockey, though not all do, some toil in the AHL and other professional leagues and are not living large either.

I am sorry there is not enough money in women's professional hockey for these ladies to make a full-time living playing hockey. There just isn't a market to support a league. But that is not USA Hockey's issue, it is far beyond their scope or responsibility. The ladies on the team will have to do what every other Olympic athlete from an obscure sport does to support themselves while training for a sport, either that or decide to move on and start the next stage of their life post-hockey. All former players have had to do that at one point or another, when they meet the end of the road. I'd love to make money playing hockey but nobody is going to show up on Tuesday nights to watch my beer league games. I'm keeping my day job.
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People like this can jump off a *ing cliff. Obviously has no idea how much work goes into being an elite level athlete these days.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Thread about the women on Siouxsports forum is worth a read for the lulz. Lots of angry, old, misogyinst dudes b*tching about SJWs, and essentially calling the decision communism. :D
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Jesus. :rolleyes: Remind me not to spend time in Grand Forks.
 
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I love that guy's argument above: "I'd love to make money playing hockey but nobody is going to show up on Tuesday nights to watch my beer league games. I'm keeping my day job."

No sh**. That's the same thing these women have been doing. Only difference is they get a phone call and told "hey, if you can just put your career on hold for a while, can you come practice with Team USA for a few weeks. Oh, and then play in a month long tourney?"

So, now they have to take time away from work to go play for Team USA.

The men's team doesn't have to worry about that because of his exact argument: no one is drafting this schlub from a Tuesday night 9:30 drop in league to go represent Team USA for a month.

I bet you his tune regarding finances changes in a hurry if he was given the chance.
 
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That thread was great.

Basically a culmination of people angry that others had the courage to stand up and believe they're worth more than they're currently being treated.

Reminds me of the people on Facebook who complain "Fast food workers shouldn't get 15/hr, I don't even make that much!" Well then, fight for a higher wage at your work, accept the fact that you're willing to value yourself less than others and work for less, or just start working fast food if it's that easy and pays better.

The best part was the guy who was excited USAH were looking for scabs and that "everyone college player who is asked would love to play", and then no one told them yes.
 
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aparch said:
Huh. Guess the sentiment in Grand Forks is "Fu** the women, and not in the fun way."

http://m.startribune.com/report-university-of-north-dakota-to-cut-women-s-hockey-program/417493423/
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That's a huge bummer. You'd think that a school so synonymous with hockey would find a way to keep the women's program going, but I guess if the money's not there, it's not there (that's an entirely different problem, but we probably shouldn't get into that).
 
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bronconick said:
..but they won't go to the Olympics. Good job thinking ahead as usual.
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NHL decision flowchart: If [Does it make money?] Then Do Else No Op.

The only positive thing you can say about NHL owners is they are smarter than NFL owners, but that's like saying Texas Republicans are smarter than Oklahoma Republicans.
 
bronconick said:
..but they won't go to the Olympics. Good job thinking ahead as usual.
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Oh they'll go. When the sponsors (and I think a few Korean companies are big sponsors) tell Gary that the checks will stop or be a lot smaller if the NHL stays home, they NHL will cave.

Plus if they stay home, the league will get no national TV exposure on both sides of the border (and overseas) for the 3 weekends of the Olympics.
 
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joecct said:
Oh they'll go. When the sponsors (and I think a few Korean companies are big sponsors) tell Gary that the checks will stop or be a lot smaller if the NHL stays home, they NHL will cave.

Plus if they stay home, the league will get no national TV exposure on both sides of the border (and overseas) for the 3 weekends of the Olympics.
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I'm pretty sure the IOC is offering the same deal as last time, just this time the NHL wants more for insurance or something.
 
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