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NHL 2015, Part II - Stanley Cup Playoff Race and Beyond

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Connor McDavid is everything his hype says he is. Got a chance to see him in Windsor over the weekend and, like Eichel, he's up here (level hand above eye-level) where everyone else on the ice is like here (level hand about chin level).
 
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I asked somebody who knows these things if McDavid would put similar numbers up if he played NCAA hockey. The answer was no as he'd be going up against older players and more defensive systems.

Do I think he'll be the #1 pick? Yep and Eichel as #2. But if you're Edmonton, and you're loaded with whiz bang forwards, do you pick Eichel or do you trade down for a solid NHL young defenseman, a #1, and a solid AHL prospect?

If everyone is smart, both McDavid and Eichel spend next season in Juniors/NCAA, the following season in the AHL, and then up to the big club. The marketing people would have hysterics, but the talent evaluation side of the house needs to put their foot down.
 
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joecct said:
I asked somebody who knows these things if McDavid would put similar numbers up if he played NCAA hockey. The answer was no as he'd be going up against older players and more defensive systems.

Do I think he'll be the #1 pick? Yep and Eichel as #2. But if you're Edmonton, and you're loaded with whiz bang forwards, do you pick Eichel or do you trade down for a solid NHL young defenseman, a #1, and a solid AHL prospect?

If everyone is smart, both McDavid and Eichel spend next season in Juniors/NCAA, the following season in the AHL, and then up to the big club. The marketing people would have hysterics, but the talent evaluation side of the house needs to put their foot down.
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It'll never happen. Those guys are both starting centers next year, regardless of what's best for their development. Also, Edmonton is sitting on the outside looking in right now in 3rd from the bottom, actually putting them in good position to take Noah Hanafin. There is no way the team with the first pick doesn't take McDavid, because no GM wants to be known as the guy who could've had McDavid and let him go.
 
lugnut92 said:
It'll never happen. Those guys are both starting centers next year, regardless of what's best for their development. Also, Edmonton is sitting on the outside looking in right now in 3rd from the bottom, actually putting them in good position to take Noah Hanafin. There is no way the team with the first pick doesn't take McDavid, because no GM wants to be known as the guy who could've had McDavid and let him go.
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I think whoever ends up #2 is in the best spot. Then they don't have to make a choice and potentially be goaded forever on taking the wrong guy.

I think both players will end up being very good players in the NHL. I'm a Ranger fan, but I'd like Buffalo to get Eichel.
 
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I read the title as "Stanley Cup Playoff Race and Beyonce."

I've been hanging out with my daughter too much.
 
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Can somebody here explain the playoff eligibility? There is a certain team in the Western conference who I sometimes look up in the standings, who plays in my old state to the Northwest of Wisconsin, who is 5th in the 'Points' standings. But my local paper in Madison, when posting the Conference standings, has them listed 7th. When I go to the Sports Mothership webpage and select Wildcard, they are listed as one of two wild card teams. Shouldn't there be 5 WC teams, after the 3 division leaders?
Please help unconfuse me, somebody.
 
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MadTownSioux said:
Can somebody here explain the playoff eligibility? There is a certain team in the Western conference who I sometimes look up in the standings, who plays in my old state to the Northwest of Wisconsin, who is 5th in the 'Points' standings. But my local paper in Madison, when posting the Conference standings, has them listed 7th. When I go to the Sports Mothership webpage and select Wildcard, they are listed as one of two wild card teams. Shouldn't there be 5 WC teams, after the 3 division leaders?
Please help unconfuse me, somebody.
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The top 3 teams in each division make the playoffs. So, even though the Wild are 5th in the conference they're 7th in the playoff picture because they are 4th in their division and thus the first Wildcard team.

Playoff seedings.

Top division winner plays the bottom Wildcard.
Second division winner plays the top Wildcard.

Second and Third in each division play each other.

If you go to NHL.com and pick the Wildcard standings it shows the picture the best.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?type=WC#&navid=nav-stn-conf
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
The top 3 teams in each division make the playoffs. So, even though the Wild are 5th in the conference they're 7th in the playoff picture because they are 4th in their division and thus the first Wildcard team.

Playoff seedings.

Top division winner plays the bottom Wildcard.
Second division winner plays the top Wildcard.

Second and Third in each division play each other.

If you go to NHL.com and pick the Wildcard standings it shows the picture the best.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?type=WC#&navid=nav-stn-conf
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Ah. Thanks. Nice explanation.
 
MadTownSioux said:
Can somebody here explain the playoff eligibility? There is a certain team in the Western conference who I sometimes look up in the standings, who plays in my old state to the Northwest of Wisconsin, who is 5th in the 'Points' standings. But my local paper in Madison, when posting the Conference standings, has them listed 7th. When I go to the Sports Mothership webpage and select Wildcard, they are listed as one of two wild card teams. Shouldn't there be 5 WC teams, after the 3 division leaders?
Please help unconfuse me, somebody.
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Playoffs are in-division. Of the Central division, Blues, Preds, Hawks are currently in. In the Pacific division, Ducks, Canucks, Flames (who hold the tiebreaker over Kings) are in.

The remaining two playoff positions are the Wildcards. They are the two Western Conference teams with the next highest points. Current wildcard teams are Wild and Jets. Lowest wildcard team plays highest point total in the Western Conference (Jets would go to Blues). Wild would slide into the Pacific division to play the Ducks.


*edit* Dammit. I was slow in reponding thanks to using my work smartphone to tap this out.
 
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MadTownSioux said:
Can somebody here explain the playoff eligibility? There is a certain team in the Western conference who I sometimes look up in the standings, who plays in my old state to the Northwest of Wisconsin, who is 5th in the 'Points' standings. But my local paper in Madison, when posting the Conference standings, has them listed 7th. When I go to the Sports Mothership webpage and select Wildcard, they are listed as one of two wild card teams. Shouldn't there be 5 WC teams, after the 3 division leaders?
Please help unconfuse me, somebody.
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I don't mean to be rude at all, but did you miss the last two seasons?
 
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I'm glad the Wings are getting their sucktacular play out of the way before the long playoff run. If they don't choke away the playoff spot first.
 
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I was shocked, SHOCKED that neither the Sabres or the Coyotes did not pull their goalies in last night's overtime. Did they forget the rule that if the OT GWG is scored into an empty net, the losing team gets 0 points?

Shame. Shame.
 
joecct said:
I was shocked, SHOCKED that neither the Sabres or the Coyotes did not pull their goalies in last night's overtime. Did they forget the rule that if the OT GWG is scored into an empty net, the losing team gets 0 points?

Shame. Shame.
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I thought the rule went both ways, thus if a team pulls their goalie for an extra attacker and scores they would get two points and the opponent none, and if scored upon, they get none and their opponent two.
 
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