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NHL 2012: Playoffs! Pick Your Overtime Winners!
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MavHockey14
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Re: NHL 2012: Playoffs! Pick Your Overtime Winners!
I hate that mother****ing cheap bastard raffi Torres with all of my guts. Burn in hell.
I hate that mother****ing cheap bastard raffi Torres with all of my guts. Burn in hell.
Re: NHL 2012: Playoffs! Pick Your Overtime Winners!
no wonder <a href="http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/17/marian-hossa-leaves-hospital-doesnt-comment/">he had no comment</a>
no wonder <a href="http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/17/marian-hossa-leaves-hospital-doesnt-comment/">he had no comment</a>
MountieBoyOz
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Re: NHL 2012: Playoffs! Pick Your Overtime Winners!
He deserves a suspension. Torres has a penchant for leaving his feet. Didn't he get busted earlier in the year against the Wild for something similar?
He deserves a suspension. Torres has a penchant for leaving his feet. Didn't he get busted earlier in the year against the Wild for something similar?
PrezdeJohnson09
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Can someone rationally explain to me how Neal only gets one game?
I want to try and believe its not because of the sweater he wears but honestly I can't see any other way around it.
Can someone rationally explain to me how Neal only gets one game?
I want to try and believe its not because of the sweater he wears but honestly I can't see any other way around it.
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Priceless
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He has a laundry list of priors. Bob McKenzie chronicled them on Twitter last night. I can't see any way that he doesn't miss the remainder of the playoffs. If Shanahan doesn't throw the book at him then either A) get rid of him for someone else or B) stop pretending to care what happens to players during the playoffs and only have that job filled in the regular season.
He has a laundry list of priors. Bob McKenzie chronicled them on Twitter last night. I can't see any way that he doesn't miss the remainder of the playoffs. If Shanahan doesn't throw the book at him then either A) get rid of him for someone else or B) stop pretending to care what happens to players during the playoffs and only have that job filled in the regular season.
MavHockey14
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Or Backstrom's one game vs. Asham's four?
Twitch Boy
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Re: NHL 2012: Playoffs! Pick Your Overtime Winners!
Phoenix announcer receiving death threats after calling the Hossa hit "as clean a hit as you're going to see."
Of COURSE ESPN is glad to run this hockey article front page.
Phoenix announcer receiving death threats after calling the Hossa hit "as clean a hit as you're going to see."
Of COURSE ESPN is glad to run this hockey article front page.
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Priceless
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Re: NHL 2012: Playoffs! Pick Your Overtime Winners!
Torres suspended indefinitely, will meet with Shanahan in person on Friday. Hearing would have been today, but Torres requested the delay.
Torres suspended indefinitely, will meet with Shanahan in person on Friday. Hearing would have been today, but Torres requested the delay.
Re: NHL 2012: Playoffs! Pick Your Overtime Winners!
Am I the only one that thinks the Hawks should have been beating the snot out of Torres the rest of that game last night? I know that is what the Bruins would have done. Me thinks the Hawks lack the toughness to move on to the second round.
NHL 2012: Suspension Roulette
Am I the only one that thinks the Hawks should have been beating the snot out of Torres the rest of that game last night? I know that is what the Bruins would have done. Me thinks the Hawks lack the toughness to move on to the second round.
NHL 2012: Suspension Roulette
MountieBoyOz
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Re: NHL 2012: Playoffs! Pick Your Overtime Winners!
^ Twitch, it's standard operating procedure.
GLM, with a nice article on Brian Burke saying nothing to see here.
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/...ople-complaining-about-the-rain-at-woodstock/
^ Twitch, it's standard operating procedure.
GLM, with a nice article on Brian Burke saying nothing to see here.
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/...ople-complaining-about-the-rain-at-woodstock/
Re: NHL 2012: Playoffs! Pick Your Overtime Winners!
Normally I would agree and I think if it wasn't a tight game and the playoffs it would have happened. If the game had not been tight then I think someone would have challenged Torres but with the game close I don't think the Hawks wanted to risk a instigator penalty in a playoff game.
Normally I would agree and I think if it wasn't a tight game and the playoffs it would have happened. If the game had not been tight then I think someone would have challenged Torres but with the game close I don't think the Hawks wanted to risk a instigator penalty in a playoff game.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
aparch
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You must not be familiar with the Hawks or their AHL affiliate Rockford Icehogs. They're loaded with cheap shotting "tough-guys" who have no problem being involved in dust-ups.
... BUT ... the primary sh*t stirrer from Rockford is currently serving a three game suspension for running PHX's goaltender.
You saw what happened when Bollig tried to "respond" to Torres. Bollig was given 2 and a 10. Torres turtled. Any "response" would be me the same way all night long. The Hawks recognized that and settled down (somewhat).
You must not be familiar with the Hawks or their AHL affiliate Rockford Icehogs. They're loaded with cheap shotting "tough-guys" who have no problem being involved in dust-ups.
... BUT ... the primary sh*t stirrer from Rockford is currently serving a three game suspension for running PHX's goaltender.
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Gurtholfin
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Shaw, the 5'11" guy is the "primary sh*t stirrer from Rockford?"
Look, I know you're a Wings fan and Wolves fan, so maybe you're just having a little fun with that last paragraph, but Shaw is not the guy that would have taken care of Torres. The Hawks, who are being built in the Euro-soft image of the Wings, don't have that guy.
They are soft and while it looked like the NHL was trending in the direction of skill over grit, the Bruins last year and this year's playoffs have shown the Hawks to be a fatally flawed team. Grit still matters, apparently as much as ever.
We don't have that guy. End of story.
First paragraph is correct although I believe that they should have d-a-m-ned the torpedoes and kicked the crap out of Raffi. Rememeber, there is a history with Mr. torres due to his cheap-shot on Seabs last season.
Shaw, the 5'11" guy is the "primary sh*t stirrer from Rockford?"
Look, I know you're a Wings fan and Wolves fan, so maybe you're just having a little fun with that last paragraph, but Shaw is not the guy that would have taken care of Torres. The Hawks, who are being built in the Euro-soft image of the Wings, don't have that guy.
They are soft and while it looked like the NHL was trending in the direction of skill over grit, the Bruins last year and this year's playoffs have shown the Hawks to be a fatally flawed team. Grit still matters, apparently as much as ever.
We don't have that guy. End of story.
First paragraph is correct although I believe that they should have d-a-m-ned the torpedoes and kicked the crap out of Raffi. Rememeber, there is a history with Mr. torres due to his cheap-shot on Seabs last season.
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Boston Bruins head coach Claude Julien: “We’re not a team that will go down and start rolling on the ice for no reason...I’m proud of Pev for standing up on his feet, taking the cross-check to the face, and not embellishing. And that’s what I want my team to keep doing."
Boston Bruins head coach Claude Julien: “We’re not a team that will go down and start rolling on the ice for no reason...I’m proud of Pev for standing up on his feet, taking the cross-check to the face, and not embellishing. And that’s what I want my team to keep doing."
Re: NHL 2012: Playoffs! Pick Your Overtime Winners!
Based on Bradley-Terry rankings (i.e., KRACH) found here, the updated (after 4/17) most likely outcomes are:
West: LAK in 4 (44.1%), STL in 5 (40.1%), PHX in 6 (24.9%), NSH in 5 (55.3%)
East: NYR in 5 (41.3%), BOS in 5 (30.4%), FLA in 6 (23.1%), PHI in 4 (54.0%)
Overall winning probabilities:
West
VAN 9.80% - LAK 90.2%
STL 85.7% - SJS 14.3%
PHX 68.4% - CHI 31.6%
NSH 91.1% - DET 8.90%
East
NYR 86.7% - OTT 13.3%
BOS 76.1% - WAS 23.9%
FLA 63.2% - NJD 36.8%
PIT 4.48% - PHI 95.5%
As always, KRACH is not a perfect predictive system. In fact, it's not predictive at all; it's retrodictive. Home-ice advantage, momentum, and the like can not be accounted for reliably, so they are ignored.
Next Round possibilities:
Based on Bradley-Terry rankings (i.e., KRACH) found here, the updated (after 4/17) most likely outcomes are:
West: LAK in 4 (44.1%), STL in 5 (40.1%), PHX in 6 (24.9%), NSH in 5 (55.3%)
East: NYR in 5 (41.3%), BOS in 5 (30.4%), FLA in 6 (23.1%), PHI in 4 (54.0%)
Overall winning probabilities:
West
VAN 9.80% - LAK 90.2%
STL 85.7% - SJS 14.3%
PHX 68.4% - CHI 31.6%
NSH 91.1% - DET 8.90%
East
NYR 86.7% - OTT 13.3%
BOS 76.1% - WAS 23.9%
FLA 63.2% - NJD 36.8%
PIT 4.48% - PHI 95.5%
As always, KRACH is not a perfect predictive system. In fact, it's not predictive at all; it's retrodictive. Home-ice advantage, momentum, and the like can not be accounted for reliably, so they are ignored.
Next Round possibilities:
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|WEST | HOME |
|CONF.|-----------------------------------|
| | VAN | STL | PHX | NSH | DET | CHI |
|-----------------------------------------|
| |PHX|XXXXX|5.74%|XXXXX|XXXXX|XXXXX|XXXXX|
| |---|-----------------------------------|
| |NSH|5.23%|2.42%|49.0%|XXXXX|XXXXX|XXXXX|
| |---|-----------------------------------|
|A|DET|0.51%|0.24%|4.79%|XXXXX|XXXXX|XXXXX|
|W|---|-----------------------------------|
|A|CHI|2.65%|XXXXX|XXXXX|22.7%|2.22%|XXXXX|
|Y|---|-----------------------------------|
| |SJS|1.40%|XXXXX|XXXXX|8.04%|0.79%|4.08%|
| |---|-----------------------------------|
| |LAK|XXXXX|77.3%|8.83%|3.72%|0.36%|XXXXX|
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|EAST | HOME |
|CONF.|-----------------------------------|
| | NYR | BOS | FLA | PIT | PHI | NJD |
|-----------------------------------------|
| |FLA|XXXXX|41.7%|XXXXX|XXXXX|XXXXX|XXXXX|
| |---|-----------------------------------|
| |PIT|1.87%|1.09%|0.87%|XXXXX|XXXXX|XXXXX|
| |---|-----------------------------------|
|A|PHI|39.8%|23.2%|18.6%|XXXXX|XXXXX|XXXXX|
|W|---|-----------------------------------|
|A|NJD|24.3%|XXXXX|XXXXX|0.51%|10.8%|XXXXX|
|Y|---|-----------------------------------|
| |WAS|20.7%|XXXXX|XXXXX|0.09%|1.92%|1.17%|
| |---|-----------------------------------|
| |OTT|XXXXX|10.2%|2.01%|0.05%|1.12%|XXXXX|
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