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NFL 2018.1 The off season

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SonofSouthie said:
Rule changes approved plus, "Kickoff team must have five men lined up on either side of the ball". Not sure how that's gonna work on an onside kick.
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If I read the rule changes correctly, I think it completely takes away the onside kick. Correct me if I'm misinterpreting these rule changes.
 
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You are. Teams just can't put all their men on one side of the ball, thereby increasing their chances of recovery. Likewise, the receiving team can't take out the kicking team players by forming a wedge, thereby making it easier for their man to get the ball.

And guys on the kicking team, have to be lined up on the line, no "ten yards back and get a head of steam going before they pile into the receiving team's wedge.


Should make onside kicks a bit more of a crapshoot who recovers, and make them a bit safer as well.
 
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Brenthoven said:
WFL? Do you mean USFL? The $1 League?
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Yes, if Mr. New Jersey General himself bagged a judgment against the NFL that led to some WFL teams being awarded membership? Could you imagine Trump in the NFL? High entertainment potential without the chance he could blow up the world!
 
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Berkshire BU Fan said:
Yes, if Mr. New Jersey General himself bagged a judgment against the NFL that led to some WFL teams being awarded membership? Could you imagine Trump in the NFL? High entertainment potential without the chance he could blow up the world!
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The WFL and USFL had completely different timelines. The US Courts ruled against the NFL in the USFL's suit against the NFL in the 80s, and the WFL was acting as a major-minor league for the NFL that started in the 90s, was failing in the US, at the same time having a London team, and the teams then either relocated to Europe or folded entirely. Those teams that relocated to European cities eventually folded too.
 
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actually......

the wfl was a major league in the 70s.

the wafl (shoulda been :D) but actually wlaf was the minor league london euro stuff.
 
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mookie1995 said:
actually......

the wfl was a major league in the 70s.

the wafl (shoulda been :D) but actually wlaf was the minor league london euro stuff.
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What was the name of the league setup in the 90s? It played outside of the NFL season, and had some NFL participation in its formation, I thought.
 
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St. Clown said:
What was the name of the league setup in the 90s? It played outside of the NFL season, and had some NFL participation in its formation, I thought.
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in london and frankfurt? world league of american football.
 
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This passed:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Owners right now expected to vote on a proposal that would remove requirement for players to be on the field for national anthem, allow them to stay in locker room if they wish, and will fine clubs, not players, if “personnel do not show proper respect for the flag and anthem.”</p>— Seth Wickersham (@SethWickersham) <a href="https://twitter.com/SethWickersham/status/999278131310661633?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Part of the reason the league considered 15-yard penalties, I’m told, for kneeling was bc players can’t grieve those like they can fines. By fining teams, rather than players, they’d similarly avoid a potential litany of grievances.</p>— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/999279265404407808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New NFL policy will require players on the field for the anthem to show the anthem and flag “appropriate respect”. Teams, not players, can be fined for not adhering. Will allow players to stay in locker room for the anthem, teams to set their own rules under conduct detrimental.</p>— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/999319818569506816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Because the best way to celebrate America is by punishing freedom of expression.
 
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Kepler said:
Because the best way to celebrate America is by punishing freedom of expression.
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Face saving. They can't very well tick off sponsors and bubba country viewers by rescinding the stand for the Anthem policy. On the other hand, they tick off the !bubba by having the policy.

So, they have a policy that is not a policy.
 
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joecct said:
Face saving. They can't very well tick off sponsors and bubba country viewers by rescinding the stand for the Anthem policy. On the other hand, they tick off the !bubba by having the policy.

So, they have a policy that is not a policy.
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That ship sailed when they went into full partnership with the army to glorify militarism. Would you like to know more?
 
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Kepler said:
That ship sailed when they went into full partnership with the army to glorify militarism. Would you like to know more?
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I think it was the Army bought into the NFL, not the NFL bought into the Army. File under "don't tick off sponsors that fit our demographic."
 
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joecct said:
I think it was the Army bought into the NFL, not the NFL bought into the Army. File under "don't tick off sponsors that fit our demographic."
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The Army started off as a paid sponsor of the NFL - they were being charged for promotions during the pre-game rituals of NFL games. When that was brought to light a couple years ago, the NFL started waiving the charges and called itself a partner with the Army and all armed forces.
 
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With the new NFL anthem policy, what's the actual fine rate? Is it per person, or just a lump sum fine? I could see some owners telling their players off the record that they don't much care, that they can choose to kneel, stand, or not show on the sidelines just as a matter of protest to the NFL. At the same time, I could see an owner or GM bringing all of its employees and players off the field for the anthem, just to thumb their collective noses at the NFL.
 
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Europe doesn't play the national anthems unless it's an international match, right?

We're too far gone in America to do that, but it would be nice to only pull it out when the Canadian teams make their way down.
 
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Berkshire BU Fan said:
Yes, if Mr. New Jersey General himself bagged a judgment against the NFL that led to some WFL teams being awarded membership? Could you imagine Trump in the NFL? High entertainment potential without the chance he could blow up the world!
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Trump had nothing to do with the WFL.

He owned the NJ Generals in the USFL.

The WFL never went to court against the NFL. The USFL did.
 
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Spartanforlife4 said:
Europe doesn't play the national anthems unless it's an international match, right?

We're too far gone in America to do that, but it would be nice to only pull it out when the Canadian teams make their way down.
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Correct, unless it's a national championship (I believe I've heard God Save the Queen before the FA final) or an F1 race.

Internationals play both.
 
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