New Poll Predictions for 11/15

[93GreatLaker]

Re: New Poll Predictions for 11/15

And Oswego did NOT dominate #13 Plattsburgh, nor any of their opponents really, they are getting it done, but it hasn't been anything to be too excited about - IMO.

Through 8 games this year the team is 8-0 and has outscored its opponents 37-11

Through 8 games last year the team was 7-1 and outscored its opponents 40-15


Sorry it doesn't excite you, but it sounds pretty good to me. I am fine with being #2, in my mind the top 3 teams are interchangeable. Norwich belongs on top, they are the defending champs.

 

[bakdraft21]

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And maybe, just maybe the SUNYAC is better then what we thought this year? Playing teams close will only help Oswego in the long run. If they were blowing people out, it would be hard to learn different situations come March.

couldnt agree with ya more, unless you were Loudhorns31 ;-))

 

[Toe Blake's Brother]

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I'm not entirely sure about the whole lack of domination thing. Oswego has the top 2 scorers in the SUNYAC. Undefeated. Goaltending has a 1.37 GAA. Beat 2 ranked teams, one of them twice. And they have an incredibly balanced attack. If you ask me, that shouldn't warrant a LOSS of a first place vote, if anything it should have gained them one.

Let's look back at just how crazy this poll is and most DIII polls early in the season. If you recall, this first poll of the season had Oswego #2 and SNC #3 even though SNC beat Oswego in Lake Placid last year and eventually lost to #1 Norwich. I thought that the original poll should have had Norwich #1, SNC #2, Oswego #3 based on last years completed season and that you do not move up or down until a loss or the loss of teams around you. Now SNC lost one game and I really do not care about the #3 ranking as I know that this is all BS and way to early to care. My point is that Oswego should not have been given the #2 spot in the first place until SNC did in fact lose at least one game this year.

 

[norm1909]

Re: New Poll Predictions for 11/15

Through 8 games this year the team is 8-0 and has outscored its opponents 37-11

Through 8 games last year the team was 7-1 and outscored its opponents 40-15


Sorry it doesn't excite you, but it sounds pretty good to me. I am fine with being #2, in my mind the top 3 teams are interchangeable. Norwich belongs on top, they are the defending champs.

I did note that 8-0 is exciting, but last year 7 of those 8 games were road games, this year 6 of the 8 were home games, sorry, I am yet to be impressed this year by their performance.

 

[bakdraft21]

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Totally agree, and I will probably go one step further...Plattsburgh needs to dominate both games (win by 3 goals each game) or else they need to drop, if not out of the poll. We shall see, Bob made the comment today that the "team" wants to see what Sam Foley can do. He really put some big pressure on the kid comparing the situation to former Cadet Ryan Klingingsmith (a walk on who came to school to just play hockey). Not saying Emery expects Foley to be an All-American and put up record numbers, but could this finally be a spark that the team needs? No offense to Josh or Ryan, and I know the team defense hasn't been there, but you don't go from a .929 and .905 to .875 and .824 save percentages and expect to be competitive. We know the talent is there, its almost the same team as last year with a very good freshman class. Like someone said in a different thread....Plattsburgh should take it as a compliment that its taken a few top line transfers and several D-I transfers to finally beat them All I know is that we are just 5 games into the season with about 10 more games against potential top 15 teams in the Nation....plenty more opportunities to get back on track and let the "work in progress" work.....

I think there was a transfer dig in there....care to elaborate.....or should we just *** u me??? Well if so, many kids transfer for many reasons,school, family surrondings, a new shot, $$ problmes, etc ..kids will often transfer to where/who recruited them in the begining, like I did.......if certain schools dont have what the transfer wants, majors, location,aid etc they will not go there when they transfer.........also buddies on the team that he transfers to never hurts.........

 

[mjbeckman]

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Win the games on the sked, and Oswego has done that. All of them. The fact SNC got a first place vote with a loss on the sked already is a crock!!

 

[LoudHorns31]

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I think there was a transfer dig in there....care to elaborate.....

I don't know any more than what I heard tonight on Emery's weekly radio show.... while talking about Oswego and how talented they are, something was brought up about people asking Ducky about $$$ packages that the schools offer and if they are even or if some schools offer more. Emery did mention that Fox was set to come to Plattsburgh last year as he is friends with former Cardinal Joey Wilson, however, they beleive that it was a $$$ issue and Oswego was able to offer Justin a better package hense he decided to go to Oswego. not sure if that's what you were looking for BakDraft but that's what I can give you on the DI transfer "dig"...

 

[MountieBoyOz]

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I am puzzled why the Wego loses a first place vote to SNC. Sure, the Knights beat Point twice. However, Oswego beat up Cortland and won in one of the toughest places to play in DIII. I have no problem with Wick being #1 because they are the champs, but Oswego has done a lot to be a strong #2 and not lose ground.

 

[joeyc3402]

Re: New Poll Predictions for 11/15

I am puzzled why the Wego loses a first place vote to SNC. Sure, the Knights beat Point twice. However, Oswego beat up Cortland and won in one of the toughest places to play in DIII. I have no problem with Wick being #1 because they are the champs, but Oswego has done a lot to be a strong #2 and not lose ground.

Could be that someone whose ballot was used last week but not this week had voted for Oswego, and vice versa.

 

[PSUChamps2001]

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I think there was a transfer dig in there....care to elaborate.....or should we just *** u me??? Well if so, many kids transfer for many reasons,school, family surrondings, a new shot, $$ problmes, etc ..kids will often transfer to where/who recruited them in the begining, like I did.......if certain schools dont have what the transfer wants, majors, location,aid etc they will not go there when they transfer.........also buddies on the team that he transfers to never hurts.........

No your absolutley right, but until Oswego started offering their upper end aid, they were always playing second fiddle for years. The whole school has really focused on their athletics, both mens and womens hockey just for example. Yes you are right, there are many reasons why kids transfer, and take nothing away from Oswego its a great school and a decent hockey tradition. But when you consistantly see D-I transfers and top line guys come in year after year and finally Oswego is the upper team in the SUNYAC.....kind of makes you laugh that its taken so much to over take Plattsburgh from that spot and couldn't just get it done with a bunch of their own recruits....and yes, Fox was coming to Plattsburgh until he, or his parents, got to see the discount they would get going to Oswego compared to Plattsbugrh....

Just for an example, since Gosek has taken over....he has brought in 10 transfers from either DI or DIII schools (7 DI, 3 DIII) and has services of 11 transfers (Don Patricks last year)....since that time Plattsburgh has had just 4, two of which came from Niagara together (Tozzo and Dennis), Janco (solid defensemen), and James Neitsch from Finlandia this year who has yet to step foot onto the ice....All I can say is that Gosek must be one hell of a salesmen....

 

[collegehcky2]

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No your absolutley right, but until Oswego started offering their upper end aid, they were always playing second fiddle for years. The whole school has really focused on their athletics, both mens and womens hockey just for example. Yes you are right, there are many reasons why kids transfer, and take nothing away from Oswego its a great school and a decent hockey tradition. But when you consistantly see D-I transfers and top line guys come in year after year and finally Oswego is the upper team in the SUNYAC.....kind of makes you laugh that its taken so much to over take Plattsburgh from that spot and couldn't just get it done with a bunch of their own recruits....and yes, Fox was coming to Plattsburgh until he, or his parents, got to see the discount they would get going to Oswego compared to Plattsbugrh....

Just for an example, since Gosek has taken over....he has brought in 10 transfers from either DI or DIII schools (7 DI, 3 DIII) and has services of 11 transfers (Don Patricks last year)....since that time Plattsburgh has had just 4, two of which came from Niagara together (Tozzo and Dennis), Janco (solid defensemen), and James Neitsch from Finlandia this year who has yet to step foot onto the ice....All I can say is that Gosek must be one hell of a salesmen....

Or Campus Center.

Or the fact there is 6 professional hockey franchises within 3 hours of Oswego.

Or that the recent success makes players want to join the program.

Or that Oswego is 2 hours closer to the Toronto metropolitan area than Plattsburgh, making it an easier drive for parents and the players themselves.

Or that transfers are able to watch games or highlights on the computer and want to play in front of 1200 students.

Or that maybe Gosek is more active about bringing in transfers than Emery (possibly?).

Yes, the financial aid package is really good, but there's other factors.

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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Or Campus Center.

Or the fact there is 6 professional hockey franchises within 3 hours of Oswego.

Or that the recent success makes players want to join the program.

Or that Oswego is 2 hours closer to the Toronto metropolitan area than Plattsburgh, making it an easier drive for parents and the players themselves.

Or that transfers are able to watch games or highlights on the computer and want to play in front of 1200 students.

Or that maybe Gosek is more active about bringing in transfers than Emery (possibly?).

Yes, the financial aid package is really good, but there's other factors.

collegehcky2 for president

 

[mdmadison]

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I don't know any more than what I heard tonight on Emery's weekly radio show.... while talking about Oswego and how talented they are, something was brought up about people asking Ducky about $$$ packages that the schools offer and if they are even or if some schools offer more. Emery did mention that Fox was set to come to Plattsburgh last year as he is friends with former Cardinal Joey Wilson, however, they beleive that it was a $$$ issue and Oswego was able to offer Justin a better package hense he decided to go to Oswego. not sure if that's what you were looking for BakDraft but that's what I can give you on the DI transfer "dig"...

Is Salem State a D1 school?

 

[MilwaukeeHockey]

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I don't see MSOE hanging around all season either. Aside from playing Adrian, their nc schedule is somewhat soft. Lawrence could, however, give Marian some trouble later in the year.

You obviously underestimate MSOE. Their team is much improved this year and Marian could not keep up with them at all this past weekend. As for Adrian keep in mind Marian beat them already this year and MSOE ran over Marian. Do the math and look for MSOE to take on St. Norbert's for a run to the tourny. MSOE should be ranked in the top 10 hands down, time will tell.

 

[Russell Jaslow]

Re: New Poll Predictions for 11/15

Or Campus Center.

Or the fact there is 6 professional hockey franchises within 3 hours of Oswego.

Or that the recent success makes players want to join the program.

Or that Oswego is 2 hours closer to the Toronto metropolitan area than Plattsburgh, making it an easier drive for parents and the players themselves.

Or that transfers are able to watch games or highlights on the computer and want to play in front of 1200 students.

Or that maybe Gosek is more active about bringing in transfers than Emery (possibly?).

Yes, the financial aid package is really good, but there's other factors.

The financial aid package is THE factor. Don't kid yourself. No one can come close to what Oswego is able to offer.

 

[PSUChamps2001]

The financial aid package is THE factor. Don't kid yourself. No one can come close to what Oswego is able to offer.

Wow Russ, I wasn't even going there lol ....

And CH2, yes there are tons of factors....I just think its funnys its taken so much to finally surpass Plattsburgh as the top SUNYAC team over the past 8 seasons...

 

[bakdraft21]

Re: New Poll Predictions for 11/15

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I don't know any more than what I heard tonight on Emery's weekly radio show.... while talking about Oswego and how talented they are, something was brought up about people asking Ducky about $$$ packages that the schools offer and if they are even or if some schools offer more. Emery did mention that Fox was set to come to Plattsburgh last year as he is friends with former Cardinal Joey Wilson, however, they beleive that it was a $$$ issue and Oswego was able to offer Justin a better package hense he decided to go to Oswego. not sure if that's what you were looking for BakDraft but that's what I can give you on the DI transfer "dig"...

ah, well didnt hear the show, and if so/the truth, like I said $$$ and/or buddies on the team.....ps we all know he was a DIII trans from Salem St.

 

[bakdraft21]

Re: New Poll Predictions for 11/15

The financial aid package is THE factor. Don't kid yourself. No one can come close to what Oswego is able to offer.

No one can come close to Oswego's package, cool, keep it coming, now were the yankees of the Sunyac, and man I LOVE the yankees..... ;-)))))))....ps good to meet ya Russ, sharp eye for the jacket

 

[NorthernLite]

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You obviously underestimate MSOE. Their team is much improved this year and Marian could not keep up with them at all this past weekend. As for Adrian keep in mind Marian beat them already this year and MSOE ran over Marian. Do the math and look for MSOE to take on St. Norbert's for a run to the tourny. MSOE should be ranked in the top 10 hands down, time will tell .

Welcome !
You have good reason to be excited about your team, but don't get too hung up on this ranking business.
Wins and losses have less to do with rankings than programs with history and reputation. MCHA teams have little of either to boast about. Be satisfied that your team is respected, and in the discussion. MSOE will be ranked in the top 10 hands down if they continue to win, time will tell.

 

[Russell Jaslow]

Re: New Poll Predictions for 11/15

No one can come close to Oswego's package, cool, keep it coming, now were the yankees of the Sunyac, and man I LOVE the yankees..... ;-)))))))....ps good to meet ya Russ, sharp eye for the jacket

Hey, I love the Yankees, too.

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