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New Hampshire vs. Boston College Fri Jan 11/Sat Jan 12
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JB
Desk Chair Coach
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College Fri Jan 11/Sat Jan 12
J.D. Nick thank for the reasoned replies.
Right now I would take Milner over DeSmith. But Milner is a Sr. and DeSmith a So, so there is time left for DeSmith to grow while in college, at this point Milner is what he is and last spring says that is **** good. I really think they are similar goalies; I don't think either are tremendously "athletic" (what goalie isn't a tremendous athlete) but instead big square in position guys, efficient.
Example I think DeSmith misplayed the Friday night Gaudreau partial breakaway goal. On film he looked to be more to the center ice part of the crease like on a breakaway but the D-man was cutting off Gaudreau so he couldn't cut back. So it looked like positionally he could have been more toward the post and maybe had that one... Saturday Gaudreau tried the same move and DeSmith had it so he got the experience.
I think DeSmith's big issue on Friday was the D let too many passes go across the ice. Fastest way to beat a butterfly goalie is make him move.
On the other hand BC all weekend made it tough to pass across the middle, packing in the center ice (well duh!) which helps Milner.
J.D. Nick thank for the reasoned replies.
Right now I would take Milner over DeSmith. But Milner is a Sr. and DeSmith a So, so there is time left for DeSmith to grow while in college, at this point Milner is what he is and last spring says that is **** good. I really think they are similar goalies; I don't think either are tremendously "athletic" (what goalie isn't a tremendous athlete) but instead big square in position guys, efficient.
Example I think DeSmith misplayed the Friday night Gaudreau partial breakaway goal. On film he looked to be more to the center ice part of the crease like on a breakaway but the D-man was cutting off Gaudreau so he couldn't cut back. So it looked like positionally he could have been more toward the post and maybe had that one... Saturday Gaudreau tried the same move and DeSmith had it so he got the experience.
I think DeSmith's big issue on Friday was the D let too many passes go across the ice. Fastest way to beat a butterfly goalie is make him move.
On the other hand BC all weekend made it tough to pass across the middle, packing in the center ice (well duh!) which helps Milner.
JB
Desk Chair Coach
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College Fri Jan 11/Sat Jan 12
It was still a fantastic backhander (quick release) so only maybe, Gaudreau might have scored anyway.
It would be interesting to know if DeSmith snatching the same move Saturday was because he had seen it, better position or just dumb luck (shot wasn't as good, glove was a little higher, one players positioning was just a little different). It would be fun to have those two video clips from the same camera angles etc. and put it together frame by frame but the technology at the games isn't that good or consistent.
It was still a fantastic backhander (quick release) so only maybe, Gaudreau might have scored anyway.
It would be interesting to know if DeSmith snatching the same move Saturday was because he had seen it, better position or just dumb luck (shot wasn't as good, glove was a little higher, one players positioning was just a little different). It would be fun to have those two video clips from the same camera angles etc. and put it together frame by frame but the technology at the games isn't that good or consistent.
e.cat
Seasoned Veteran
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College Fri Jan 11/Sat Jan 12
Don't forget J.D. He's happy with the split
Don't forget J.D. He's happy with the split
e.cat
Seasoned Veteran
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College Fri Jan 11/Sat Jan 12
Yes J.D. BC's TOP end talent and/or bottom end talent didn't show me much Saturday night. Your goalie looked good except when he got totally schooled by Willows! But you could be right BC "undoubtedly" has superior TOP end talent!
Yes J.D. BC's TOP end talent and/or bottom end talent didn't show me much Saturday night. Your goalie looked good except when he got totally schooled by Willows! But you could be right BC "undoubtedly" has superior TOP end talent!
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College Fri Jan 11/Sat Jan 12
They do, their top line is superior to any line UNH rolls out, but UNH has more balanced scoring, not sure what's so hard to understand. What happened friday night?
e.cat
Seasoned Veteran
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College Fri Jan 11/Sat Jan 12
Shawn I'm not arguing that they are not talented. What you guys apparently are not accepting is that they did not demonstrate it Saturday night IMHO.
Shawn I'm not arguing that they are not talented. What you guys apparently are not accepting is that they did not demonstrate it Saturday night IMHO.
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College Fri Jan 11/Sat Jan 12
No, e.cat. Epic fail on your part as usual. I never once said BC demonstrated anything for you Saturday night. I did not challenge that.
No, e.cat. Epic fail on your part as usual. I never once said BC demonstrated anything for you Saturday night. I did not challenge that.
e.cat
Seasoned Veteran
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College Fri Jan 11/Sat Jan 12
Ha ha ha ha ha. So you're agreeing with me then? I hope the J.D. doesn't stand for Juris Doctor because you would be a complete failure as a lawyer!!!
Ha ha ha ha ha. So you're agreeing with me then? I hope the J.D. doesn't stand for Juris Doctor because you would be a complete failure as a lawyer!!!
JB
Desk Chair Coach
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College Fri Jan 11/Sat Jan 12
Interesting exercise... pull the two rosters and start writing down players "best" to "worst" on D and O. Think of it as drafting a team for a limited pool.
My guess is you will find the BC top 5 forwards in the top 5-7 of that list... the other 7 BC forwards would be in the Bottom 8-10. The majority of the UNH forwards fill the middle. Additionally if you could rate them on a 1 to 100 scale with Gaudreau at 100 (I think he is easily the best of the 24) I think you would see a cliff and a chunk of the BC bottom 7 are off the cliff.
D is a bit more interesting I would lean toward UNH having the better D-men, but I haven't really looked at the BC group. TVR the best of the 12? Even though he can get a little selfish with the puck (see last Friday) I don't think I would trade him straight up for any BC D-man... I do think the D comparison is a bit more balanced between the teams I would give UNH the edge but it would look far more balanced than the bi-polar forward comparison.
Interesting exercise... pull the two rosters and start writing down players "best" to "worst" on D and O. Think of it as drafting a team for a limited pool.
My guess is you will find the BC top 5 forwards in the top 5-7 of that list... the other 7 BC forwards would be in the Bottom 8-10. The majority of the UNH forwards fill the middle. Additionally if you could rate them on a 1 to 100 scale with Gaudreau at 100 (I think he is easily the best of the 24) I think you would see a cliff and a chunk of the BC bottom 7 are off the cliff.
D is a bit more interesting I would lean toward UNH having the better D-men, but I haven't really looked at the BC group. TVR the best of the 12? Even though he can get a little selfish with the puck (see last Friday) I don't think I would trade him straight up for any BC D-man... I do think the D comparison is a bit more balanced between the teams I would give UNH the edge but it would look far more balanced than the bi-polar forward comparison.
Carmine Scarpaglia
My bad.
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College Fri Jan 11/Sat Jan 12
So you expected BC to go undefeated this season?
So you expected BC to go undefeated this season?
It's not worth it.
sterlippo1
Well-known member
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College Fri Jan 11/Sat Jan 12
someone should add /SunFeb 17 to the title of the thread
someone should add /SunFeb 17 to the title of the thread
e.cat
Seasoned Veteran
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College Fri Jan 11/Sat Jan 12
Good one
At this point in my life I'm just trying to get through another harsh New England winter without having to turn on the oven to stay warm
Good one
At this point in my life I'm just trying to get through another harsh New England winter without having to turn on the oven to stay warm