What's new
USCHO Fan Forum

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

  • The USCHO Fan Forum has migrated to a new plaform, xenForo. Most of the function of the forum should work in familiar ways. Please note that you can switch between light and dark modes by clicking on the gear icon in the upper right of the main menu bar. We are hoping that this new platform will prove to be faster and more reliable. Please feel free to explore its features.

NESCAC '13-'14 season

Re: NESCAC '13-'14 season

A strange day at Kenyon yesterday afternoon. Congratulations to Coach Steele and the Camels on their thrilling 2-1 OT upset win over Middlebury in the NESCAC quarter final! The Panthers skated without their two leading scorers due to disciplinary incidents of the past 10 days....

I admit to a certain disappointment at the outcome, but I have to say it was a great game. My hat is off to Coach Mandigo and his moral courage in making the decision suspending his players for this game. The value of athletics in higher education is to teach student athletes that they are responsible for their actions and will be held accountable. It is fashionable to see the Panthers as having some special relationship with the on ice officials; the fact is the Middlebury culture does not tolerate the careless, often selfish, play which results in penalties, or play that can cause injury to others.

Agreed - impressive that Coach Mandigo is willing to place learning life skills above hockey results. It is clear that a couple of other NESCAC coaches do not practice this approach. It speaks well of him (and the school) that he does.
 
Re: NESCAC '13-'14 season

A strange day at Kenyon yesterday afternoon. Congratulations to Coach Steele and the Camels on their thrilling 2-1 OT upset win over Middlebury in the NESCAC quarter final! The Panthers skated without their two leading scorers due to disciplinary incidents of the past 10 days.
The Camels took an early lead when Bogue held the puck at the blue line as it came up the left wing half boards and from the left point got the puck on net; Midd goalie Jones did the splits but Izzi with a put back and then Anctil for the score were there to cash in the rebound. Minutes later Midd had a good look at Fralick when a long pass sprang Joyce on a semi break away; Fralick made the save on Joyce's shot from the right circle, but a penalty was called as Joyce, tied up trying for the rebound, crashed into the gloveside post. Wardwell then rang a shot from the right circle off the cross bar at 10:30. The 2nd opened with Middlebury quickly evening the score a 1-1. Krakower skated up the left wing in her own zone and then made a diagonal indirect pass cross ice off the boards in front of the Panther bench. Schulman raced down right wing, fielded the pass, muscled around the Conn D and got a shot on net from a wide angle; Fralick made the save, but Joyce, coming up crashing the net made the score. The rest of the 2nd saw Conn whistled for 4 penalties and the Panthers mount relentless pressure with good puck control on the powerplay, but the Camel defense and stellar work by Fralick held them at bay. The 3rd saw more of the same, including 2 full minutes of the Panthers skating 5x3. Conn did skate a powerplay of their own with time running down, but regulation ended tied at 1-1. The OT opened with Midd's Jones making a spectacular series of saves at the gloveside post. The game winner came on a faceoff to Jones' right following an icing call on the Panthers. Conn won the face off, got the puck to the net and it hopped up over Jones for the score; Germano with the goal and Moore with the assist.
I admit to a certain disappointment at the outcome, but I have to say it was a great game. My hat is off to Coach Mandigo and his moral courage in making the decision suspending his players for this game. The value of athletics in higher education is to teach student athletes that they are responsible for their actions and will be held accountable. It is fashionable to see the Panthers as having some special relationship with the on ice officials; the fact is the Middlebury culture does not tolerate the careless, often selfish, play which results in penalties, or play that can cause injury to others.
Best of luck to the Camels as they advance to the semi final against Williams next Saturday!


nice recap.

'Fashionable' or not, the fact is the officiating was about as bad as I've seen all year...My hat's not off since I must have missed the "culture" of which you speak...Apparently, the players aren't quite as responsible as you say, since if that were so, then there would have been no [shall I say 'selfish' and perhaps 'careless'] behavior and thus no need for the suspensions, eh?

Best of luck to the Mules next weekend.
 
Re: NESCAC '13-'14 season

Recap? Nice play by play breakdown. "A wide angle shot; but a save."
I'm sick of these novels being posted by SID's - keep it to your school website.
 
Re: NESCAC '13-'14 season

Recap? Nice play by play breakdown. "A wide angle shot; but a save."
I'm sick of these novels being posted by SID's - keep it to your school website.

Obserbear, please disregard this persons ridiculous comment, we appreciate your fair and balanced approach, with your detail, for those of us that can't get there.

I look forward to your reports next weekend, and maybe we can 123kid to keep his comments to him/herself. I am sure there are more positive people out there that agree with me!!

Keep up your reports PLEASE!!
 
Re: NESCAC '13-'14 season

nice recap.

'Fashionable' or not, the fact is the officiating was about as bad as I've seen all year...My hat's not off since I must have missed the "culture" of which you speak...Apparently, the players aren't quite as responsible as you say, since if that were so, then there would have been no [shall I say 'selfish' and perhaps 'careless'] behavior and thus no need for the suspensions, eh?

Best of luck to the Mules next weekend.

I could be wrong, but I believe that Obserbear's comments around discipline were related to the Middlebury-Norwich game 10 days or so prior to the Conn College game, not the game on Saturday.

It amazes me that every game that Conn College plays is the worst officated game in history!! You should submit that to Guinness.... Imagine how many penalties they would get if the games were well officiated - 20, 30? Seriously, give it a rest - the Conn College team plays at best clutch and grab hockey and at worst dangerous hockey. The refs call penalties because that is what they are. If the refs change every game and the Conn players are playing every game and the penalties are relatively the same, then its the players not the refs. Stop whining about the refs.
 
Re: NESCAC '13-'14 season

I could be wrong, but I believe that Obserbear's comments around discipline were related to the Middlebury-Norwich game 10 days or so prior to the Conn College game, not the game on Saturday.

It amazes me that every game that Conn College plays is the worst officated game in history!! You should submit that to Guinness.... Imagine how many penalties they would get if the games were well officiated - 20, 30? Seriously, give it a rest - the Conn College team plays at best clutch and grab hockey and at worst dangerous hockey. The refs call penalties because that is what they are. If the refs change every game and the Conn players are playing every game and the penalties are relatively the same, then its the players not the refs. Stop whining about the refs.



Hardly. If you look, you will see that I've consistently said they take too many bad penalties...but make it up as you go along, fella.

'Bad officiating' in my view, has to do with consistency...calling the same penalty on the same type of activity...these guys were just plain terrible in that regard.

P.S. As usual, you are incorrect re: Norwich game.
 
Re: NESCAC '13-'14 season

"apparently"....is an interesting word. No facts, but 'apparently' it was due to a full moon on a Tuesday night.

Crosscheck - You might want to give it a rest. Obserbear clearly has more knowledge on the subject, and clearly Coach Mandigo is trying to make sure his players are under control when playing. The game is not above a life's teaching lesson or moment. This is not the first time that he has not dressed a player or players for a critical game due to a behavioral occurrence, regardless of how it might impact the outcome of a game or even a season. He has his team under control, and it he is a model coach for others to emulate.
 
Re: NESCAC '13-'14 season

"apparently"....is an interesting word. No facts, but 'apparently' it was due to a full moon on a Tuesday night.

Coach Mandigo sat one of the two players due to an injury causing hit on Marie-Philip Guay in the last seconds of the Norwich game. It was/is well documented. I can't speak to the other suspension. So go back to complaining about the great injustices done to Conn by the refs that no one is buying.
 
Re: NESCAC '13-'14 season

I'll ask again now that the weekend playoff dust has settled. Do folks think that Middlebury still gets a NCAA bid now as an at large team if the rest of the league playoffs go to plan (Platty vs Elmira and both go to NCAA, Norwich wins out)? I'm thinking yes, but it is definitely not a lock with the way that Middlebury finished.
 
Re: NESCAC '13-'14 season

Not sure, but after being off the ice for a week, until the NCAA field is announced their season is over, who knows what they'll look like.
 
Re: NESCAC '13-'14 season

This is not the first time that he has not dressed a player or players for a critical game due to a behavioral occurrence, regardless of how it might impact the outcome of a game or even a season. He has his team under control, and it he is a model coach for others to emulate.


So these 'incidents' requiring disciplinary action are pretty common then? Yes, it certainly sounds like he has his team under control. :D
 
Re: NESCAC '13-'14 season

I'll ask again now that the weekend playoff dust has settled. Do folks think that Middlebury still gets a NCAA bid now as an at large team if the rest of the league playoffs go to plan (Platty vs Elmira and both go to NCAA, Norwich wins out)? I'm thinking yes, but it is definitely not a lock with the way that Middlebury finished.

My feeling is they are in with a 5-3 split, but out if the NCAA goes 4-4. They are one of the top 8 teams in the country, but that does not always translate into a spot in the big dance. It will come down to a comparison with the WIAC runner up for the Panthers to slide into the third Pool C bid. It is easy for the NCAA to go WIAC winner/NCHA auto bid and MIAC auto bid/WIAC runner up in the west and NESCAC auto bid/winner ECAC-West and Norwich/ECAC loser in the east. The seeding of the 5-3 split is trickier, but seemingly the NESCAC winner comes out as the #8 seed and might actually be seeded below Middlebury.
 
So these 'incidents' requiring disciplinary action are pretty common then? Yes, it certainly sounds like he has his team under control. :D

Hey Einstein don't lose your day job if you think you are a comedian! Yes he has great control, for when a kid does something wrong, he does not let it go, like they do with the Camels. If the coach of conn college took that type of control, she probably not see her team get as many undisciplined and deserved penalties that they get, like on Saturday.
 
Re: NESCAC '13-'14 season

So these 'incidents' requiring disciplinary action are pretty common then? Yes, it certainly sounds like he has his team under control. :D

CrossCheck.... You go to the extreme to reinforce a point, including being completely untruthful. Specifically, you took Plugger's "this is not the first time" and re-interpreted it as "pretty common". Your name - CrossCheck - is perfect. You just verbally cross-checked both Plugger and one of the best women's ice hockey coaches in the history of the game. I hope you're proud.

To make sure the facts are straight... Coach Mandigo benched two players for disciplinary reasons. These were violations, by the way, that did not come with a REQUIREMENT for him to bench them. For you to bad-mouth him for voluntarily sitting them out for an important game makes me, and I'm sure everyone else, question your ethics. If I was your fan forum coach, I'd bench you from posting for awhile.
 
Re: NESCAC '13-'14 season

CrossCheck.... You go to the extreme to reinforce a point, including being completely untruthful. Specifically, you took Plugger's "this is not the first time" and re-interpreted it as "pretty common". Your name - CrossCheck - is perfect. You just verbally cross-checked both Plugger and one of the best women's ice hockey coaches in the history of the game. I hope you're proud.

To make sure the facts are straight... Coach Mandigo benched two players for disciplinary reasons. These were violations, by the way, that did not come with a REQUIREMENT for him to bench them. For you to bad-mouth him for voluntarily sitting them out for an important game makes me, and I'm sure everyone else, question your ethics. If I was your fan forum coach, I'd bench you from posting for awhile.


I go to the extreme? really? but nobody else here does? pot, meet kettle. don't let the facts spoil your argument. seems many of the old-boys here have their panties all in a twist. relax francis, it's a game.
 
Re: NESCAC '13-'14 season

I'm sure that there are others on this thread who appreciate (for lack of a better word) the irony of one of the dirtiest teams in the league (yeah, I know, they're not "dirty," they're just misunderstood) gaining the benefit of the Midd benchings this weekend. Certainly, it affected the 0-9 effectiveness on the power play.

I, for one, found a higher level of respect for Coach M this week.

I think as one of the top 4 ranked NCAA teams in the East, they've still got a good shot at an at large invitation to the D3 dance. I hope they get the benefit of the various factors that weigh in the balance.
 
Re: NESCAC '13-'14 season

I go to the extreme? really? but nobody else here does? pot, meet kettle. don't let the facts spoil your argument. seems many of the old-boys here have their panties all in a twist. relax francis, it's a game.

Others sometimes go to the extreme to visit, but you have a home there, Francis.
 
Last edited:
Back
Top