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nCoV 2019-2020 Outbreak

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Let me rephrase. Those who attempt to use flu to minimize this are dumb.

It does help to put it into perspective. 19,000,000+ Americans have been infected with influenza this season. This could reach 65M. 10,000-25,000 people have died from the flu in the US so far this season. We’ve had like 15 cases of this strain of Coronavirus. The flu is a much bigger threat to most of us because even though it is less deadly, we’re far more likely to become infected.

Flu and nCov19 are both respiratory illnesses with similar symptoms. nCov19 appears to have a higher fatality rate, but it will probably drop as more mild cases are reported (these are the ones that tend to go underreported). A person infected with nCov19 does appear to spread it to more people (2.2 average vs <2 for influenza).

Here is some more perspective https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/coronavirus-china-virus-wuhan-symptoms-deaths-sars-a9295396.html
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tom Cotton reiterates his suggestion that the Coronavirus originated at a super-lab in Wuhan <a href="https://t.co/i1cSNSqU0d">pic.twitter.com/i1cSNSqU0d</a></p>— Acyn Torabi (@Acyn) <a href="https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1229069649129508864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

How in the **** is that helpful to anybody? Seriously, shut the **** up.
 
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I’ve got a meeting this week with a bunch of infectious disease specialists from the university along with some epis. Curious what they say and if we’ll be doing our trip to Asia in six weeks
 
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Then what am I? I’m not rich, but I’m not living paycheck to paycheck and I have disposable income.

Fortunate.

44% of American workers earn less than $18,000

The existence of low-wage work is hardly a surprise, but most people—except, perhaps, low-wage workers themselves—underestimate how prevalent it is. Many also misunderstand who these workers are. They are not only students, people at the beginning of their careers, or people who need extra spending money. A majority are adults in their prime working years, and low-wage work is the primary way they support themselves and their families.
 
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The way I'm seeing that, is that it takes money to make more money, and of course that is proportionate to the money one has to begin with.

If I have a million bucks, of course I should be able to parlay that into much more money than someone who has $100K, in general/relatively/etc. Even going by percentages in those different totals in that graph, the amount of money/growth will compound.
 
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The way I'm seeing that, is that it takes money to make more money, and of course that is proportionate to the money one has to begin with.

If I have a million bucks, of course I should be able to parlay that into much more money than someone who has $100K, in general/relatively/etc. Even going by percentages in those different totals in that graph, the amount of money/growth will compound.

Correct. If you're born rich, trusts and investments make it easy to stay that way, or you just pay someone smarter than you to manage your money.
 
As I said, there is no longer a middle class. Justify it however you want.

So now I have call myself “fortunate” instead of middle class?

The way I always figured it was anyone that made less than me was poor and anyone that made more was rich
 
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The way I'm seeing that, is that it takes money to make more money, and of course that is proportionate to the money one has to begin with.

If I have a million bucks, of course I should be able to parlay that into much more money than someone who has $100K, in general/relatively/etc. Even going by percentages in those different totals in that graph, the amount of money/growth will compound.

No, it isn't only that. The rate of growth also increased as you go up the scale. Look at the 50% mark and the 99% mark:

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  Yr    50%     99%   Ratio
1963    41   1,457    35.54
1983    83   3,323    40.03
2016    97  10,400   107.21

Let's specifically take the period since 1983, the Reaganomics Era:

50% wealth increase = (97-83)/83 = 17%
99% wealth increase = (10,400-3,323)/3,323 = 213%

That is what Republican and Democratic Neoliberal economic policies do.

Let's compare to the period 1963 - 1983, the Great Society Era:

50% wealth increase = (83-41)/41 = 102%
99% wealth increase = (3,323-1,457)/1,457 = 128%

That is what an aggressive graduated income tax does.

The low marginal tax rates increased the 99%'s ROI by 85% -- the exact amount that the 50%'s ROI decreased. It robbed from the middle class and gave to the rich.

That is the greatest redistribution of wealth between the classes in world history. It destroyed the American middle class and is now destroying democracy.

* Moved to Economics thread *
 
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Can we change the thread title if this is no longer a virus discussion
 
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The way to deal with thread drift is to talk about the original topic. Or to suggest the people who have a parenthetical move it to the appropriate thread. Nicely. Not like a dick.
 
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