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nCoV 2019-2020 Outbreak

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French Rage said:
I think everyone indoors is closer quarters, whereas outside or about the town is less so? Don't quote me on this though.
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Right I got that part but I wondered whether the lines would cross the other way: increased opportunity of many pairs transmission would overwhelm the lower likelihood of single pair transmission.

But after 5 minutes of deep internet searching I think you're right. Which suggests to me we should burn down the hospitals. :)
 
Kepler said:
Right I got that part but I wondered whether the lines would cross the other way: increased opportunity of many pairs transmission would overwhelm the lower likelihood of single pair transmission.

But after 5 minutes of deep internet searching I think you're right. Which suggests to me we should burn down the hospitals. :)
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A definite cesspool. There’s a reason Medicare doesn’t pay for hospital acquired infections- they happen constantly.
 
French Rage said:
But, correct me if I'm wrong, the vast majority of the decrease in outbreaks in warmer weather is because people are less holed-up inside, not because the sun is baking the virus away.
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Most people work inside in close proximity to others regardless of weather though

I’m cooped up with 1,500 other primates 48 weeks a year
 
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BassAle said:
Most people work inside in close proximity to others regardless of weather though

I’m cooped up with 1,500 other primates 48 weeks a year
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A much bigger deal is when all of the small petri dishes are finished with school. A big step for them is to be able to go outside during the day, then more time away from school, and then school's out. Kids get sick a lot easier and tend to be the faster spreader than adults. Especially since they have not developed any people avoidance tendencies at that age.

Heck, spring break is a big deal stopping kids getting sick- when then has a massive impact on the general population.
 
The Rube said:
See: cruise ships.
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Obviously close quarters = more opportunities for transmission.

However, for the average person work and travel (bus, airplane, subway) is by far the largest opportunity and is pretty consistent regardless of weather.

The cold weather = cooped up as being the driver of flu season doesn’t stand up. There is scientific evidence that shows low humidity and low temperatures are key to the spread of flu (and I assume Coronavirus)


Anyway, Trump is actually right if he says that some people think higher humidity and temperatures will help get Coronavirus under control because there is scientific evidence that says so.
 
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BassAle said:
Obviously close quarters = more opportunities for transmission.

However, for the average person work and travel is by far the largest opportunity and is pretty consistent regardless of weather.

The cold weather = cooped up as being the driver of flu season doesn’t stand up.
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After reading the NYT article posted here, and a few more I found on my own volition, it’s obvious the close quarters theory only tells a small fraction of the story. I made the mistake of accepting my school textbooks’ explanation, and not doing my own research on the subject. Thank you, USCHO, for guiding me to a deeper understanding of how the certain viruses spread. Fascinating stuff.
 
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All in all, it's effing scary. Each new outbreak of a supervirus seems to be getting worse. Mutations,etc, holy hannah. Mother Nature will always win in the long run. Ugh.
 
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BassAle said:
Most people work inside in close proximity to others regardless of weather though

I’m cooped up with 1,500 other primates 48 weeks a year
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Right, but more people travel during the winter, we have tons of holiday parties where work and social circles merge, and we have parties exclusively in enclosed areas where aerosolized infectious agents can linger instead of being scattered.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Right, but more people travel during the winter, we have tons of holiday parties where work and social circles merge, and we have parties exclusively in enclosed areas where aerosolized infectious agents can linger instead of being scattered.
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You guys can believe whatever you want, but there is peer reviewed scientific research that suggests it’s the temperature and humidity that are the primary drivers of flu season, not peoples’ travel schedule or the office Christmas party.
 
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BassAle said:
You guys can believe whatever you want, but there is peer reviewed scientific research that suggests it’s the temperature and humidity that are the primary drivers of flu season, not peoples’ travel schedule or the office Christmas party.
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That would imply that in places like Miami and all the Caribbean, the flu would not be a big deal. Somehow it is. Puerto Rico is always hot and always humid- and they still have flu problems. And ships that sail in the Caribbean are constantly in the same hot and very humid air, and they, too, have flu issues.

There may be evidence, but the other evidence suggests that there is something else going on other than heat and humidity. Correlation is not causation.
 
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