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NCHA 2012-13--The final season as we know it!

Re: NCHA 2012-13--The final season as we know it!

First, let's get the facts straight! SNC does not have a roster of 27. Current roster is 24, with two girls not playing.
Second, if your point is "why sit when you can play", then make that point period and don't single out any particular program.
Third, current active roster numbers in the NCHA. UWRF-19, Adrian-23, Lake Forest-19, UWS-23, SNC-24, CSS-24, UWSP-24, UWEC-22, Concordia-23, Marian-17, Finlandia-16.
Fourth, Go Jackets already made it.
Fifth, FU Men's team has 30 players on it's roster. They'll come if you have a good program and recruit hard.

Sorry, no ill intent meant by the post. SNC has a fine program. I did notice that team stats and roster differed as to number of players. Players drop off for many different reasons during the year. I picked SNC as an example because I know they will not loose any Seniors next season because they don't have any. I also noted some new players committing which could have an effect on some of the players who are already there. The best 24 will make the team as they should. Your listing of team roster sizes illustrates my point. At Finlandia, Marian and Lake Forrest there is roster space. As those programs improve that too will change.

The other post points out the difference in location and that is well taken. Appleton and Houghton/Hancock are both nice areas to live in. I guess it is all in the eyes of the beholder.
 
Re: NCHA 2012-13--The final season as we know it!

Does anyone here know if video exists on line from the SNC UWRF OT game from the weekend? I cannot find anything on the school web sites, YouTube and the other places. Thanks for your help.
I would pay money to see the end of that game!!! What a comeback from the Lady Knights...
 
Re: NCHA 2012-13--The final season as we know it!

I'm not sure why these articles and releases are not showing up on the NCHA website [maybe it is just my ineptitude in finding them] -- I pulled these releases from a link through our team website. I wanted to post them here and congratulate all of the players who were honored, both for their hockey skills and their academic skills.

Player of the Year and Conference Awards:
http://static.psbin.com/9/5/695hgr4hxgsvjp/12-13_women-s_all-ncha_release.pdf

Scholar Athlete and All-Academic Awards:
http://athletics.uwsp.edu/custompages/whockey/2012-13/12-13 women's all-academic release.pdf
 
Re: NCHA 2012-13--The final season as we know it!

Sorry, no ill intent meant by the post. SNC has a fine program. I did notice that team stats and roster differed as to number of players. Players drop off for many different reasons during the year. I picked SNC as an example because I know they will not loose any Seniors next season because they don't have any. I also noted some new players committing which could have an effect on some of the players who are already there. The best 24 will make the team as they should. Your listing of team roster sizes illustrates my point. At Finlandia, Marian and Lake Forrest there is roster space. As those programs improve that too will change.

The other post points out the difference in location and that is well taken. Appleton and Houghton/Hancock are both nice areas to live in. I guess it is all in the eyes of the beholder.

I think you'll be hard pressed to find a correlation between roster size and success. Plattsburgh and Bowdoin have their smallest rosters to date and they are having great success. River Falls is also at 19 and Lake Forest seems like they always lean towards a smaller roster which hasn't seem to hurt their success either.

On the flip side, I don't agree with the message that girls should not go to teams that carry bigger rosters. (Whether or not that was your intent of the message, I' m not sure and I apologize if it wasn't). Everyone should have to earn their spot and you don't hear people on the men's side telling guys to go to teams that don't carry extra players. I still think the DIII label gives a lot of girls the idea that they don't have to work for a spot, that it should come automatically, and I'm sure that creates some drama on the larger teams when girls think they should be playing just because they have a jersey number.

The women's game is definitely different from the men's in that there aren't as many injuries to worry about (some exceptions there, I'm sure) so I would be curious to know what the benefits of big roster vs. small roster would be. Perhaps this is for another thread, but just thought I'd throw that out there.

In the meantime, best of luck to St. Norbert and River Falls, I hope they make the last remaining NCHA league proud this weekend!
 
Re: NCHA 2012-13--The final season as we know it!

I think you'll be hard pressed to find a correlation between roster size and success. Plattsburgh and Bowdoin have their smallest rosters to date and they are having great success. River Falls is also at 19 and Lake Forest seems like they always lean towards a smaller roster which hasn't seem to hurt their success either.

On the flip side, I don't agree with the message that girls should not go to teams that carry bigger rosters. (Whether or not that was your intent of the message, I' m not sure and I apologize if it wasn't). Everyone should have to earn their spot and you don't hear people on the men's side telling guys to go to teams that don't carry extra players. I still think the DIII label gives a lot of girls the idea that they don't have to work for a spot, that it should come automatically, and I'm sure that creates some drama on the larger teams when girls think they should be playing just because they have a jersey number.

The women's game is definitely different from the men's in that there aren't as many injuries to worry about (some exceptions there, I'm sure) so I would be curious to know what the benefits of big roster vs. small roster would be. Perhaps this is for another thread, but just thought I'd throw that out there.

In the meantime, best of luck to St. Norbert and River Falls, I hope they make the last remaining NCHA league proud this weekend!

My initial point was not large rosters make successful programs but successful programs make large rosters. If you are at the top of a well recognized program, your chance of breaking into a top program as a regular player are good. For most skilled players aiming for D-111, a middle of the pack or less successful program could be the answer for becoming an impact player with premium ice time and a chance to make a difference. Women's hockey at the D-111 level is becoming more and more competitive. European players are taking an interest in D-111 institutions. Some players who would have chosen the D-1 path are now going D-111. I am not trying to start a major debate. I am just saying institutions like Finlandia and Marian to name a few should not be overlooked because of their location or win/loss record, if hockey is a major interest. To play for an underdog or not to play for a champion, that is the question!
 
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