Re: NCAA Semifinal OSU vs SNC
Shouldn't you be in Minnesota reporting on the women?
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NCAA Semifinal OSU vs SNC
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Re: NCAA Semifinal OSU vs SNC
Here’s my 2-bits !!!
Obvious from all Laker fans … OSU brought their worse effort of the year for the most important game of the year !!! Get over it & face the facts … you lost to a better team ! Many comments we read here just prove that some still need to educate themselves about the game of hockey. I doubt very much the players on the Laker team feel the same way their fans do … they know they tried their best … & their best fell short !!!
Here’s my 2-bits !!!
Obvious from all Laker fans … OSU brought their worse effort of the year for the most important game of the year !!! Get over it & face the facts … you lost to a better team ! Many comments we read here just prove that some still need to educate themselves about the game of hockey. I doubt very much the players on the Laker team feel the same way their fans do … they know they tried their best … & their best fell short !!!
Birdwatcher
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NOPE, SORRY, I am a Cardinal fan so by elimination I dislike Oswego! I have watched the Lakers play a few times this year on the internet and I can be honest and say I have never seen them play this bad. There was little effort until about halfway through the game. If you look back you will see my comment at the end of the !st period on how slow they appeared. They were no where near as fast as they can play, and I haven't seen the give up the puck like that in years. They played far from their best.
NOPE, SORRY, I am a Cardinal fan so by elimination I dislike Oswego! I have watched the Lakers play a few times this year on the internet and I can be honest and say I have never seen them play this bad. There was little effort until about halfway through the game. If you look back you will see my comment at the end of the !st period on how slow they appeared. They were no where near as fast as they can play, and I haven't seen the give up the puck like that in years. They played far from their best.
norm1909
Larry Normandin
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St. Norbert defeats Oswego (Article from the Plattsburgh Press-Republican article from 3/20/10)
St. Norbert defeats Oswego (Article from the Plattsburgh Press-Republican article from 3/20/10)
Re: NCAA Semifinal OSU vs SNC
Or maybe SNC was just able to impose their will on them and dictate the flow of the game? Just a thought...
Or maybe SNC was just able to impose their will on them and dictate the flow of the game? Just a thought...
MW4Bucky&SNC
Done with Winter
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That's the part he's missing. SNC is great about taking away space. You don't look as fast when you don't have open space to work in. We could play the same game he is playing and talk about how SNC was chasing the puck and got bunched up on a couple of the Oswego goals.
Matthew Webb
Whiner.
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Let's quit playing around.
St. Norbert is horrible. Oswego is like the old Red Army team, but better. SNC was lucky to catch a few breaks and was beyond fortunate that someone spiked Oswego's breakfast OJ with a solid dose of beaver tranquilizers.
On any other night SNC would have lost by ten plus. No doubt about it. Worst game Oswego has played since 1962.
Let's quit playing around.
St. Norbert is horrible. Oswego is like the old Red Army team, but better. SNC was lucky to catch a few breaks and was beyond fortunate that someone spiked Oswego's breakfast OJ with a solid dose of beaver tranquilizers.
On any other night SNC would have lost by ten plus. No doubt about it. Worst game Oswego has played since 1962.
NorthernLite
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St. Norbert can make really good teams look really bad.
Can they do it one more time ? There is now no doubt in my mind !
St. Norbert can make really good teams look really bad.
Can they do it one more time ? There is now no doubt in my mind !
Matthew Webb
Whiner.
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Nope. If SNC wins it will only be because Norwich laid an egg. Book it.
Nope. If SNC wins it will only be because Norwich laid an egg. Book it.
bakdraft21
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i HATE to agree with the card fan but its what happened...im still sick today....
i HATE to agree with the card fan but its what happened...im still sick today....
Re: NCAA Semifinal OSU vs SNC
Holy cow! Did Oswego play their women's team last night. I mean, they must have to loose to a Western team that had such a cake walk to the Final Four. SNC only had to beat Adrian and GAC. Wow! What an upset. I wonder if it was because of the ghost of Herb Brooks and the Miracle on Ice?
This will go down in history!
Westscout
Holy cow! Did Oswego play their women's team last night. I mean, they must have to loose to a Western team that had such a cake walk to the Final Four. SNC only had to beat Adrian and GAC. Wow! What an upset. I wonder if it was because of the ghost of Herb Brooks and the Miracle on Ice?
This will go down in history!
Westscout
LakerEagleLover
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Great Laker2000
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Thank you, at least their is a voice of reason. Not sure what bossman thinks he is talking about.!!! Were you at the game? If not then you did not see what we all saw. If you were, then for some reason you still did not see what we all saw. It is not about excuses. The Oswego players may say they gave it their all (which I am positive they did) but for some reason they were slow and lethargic and beats the hell out of me why!! On a normal night they would not have given the puck away 3 times leading to 3 goals and not been out of position for another!! They lost and all the credit to SNC for the amazing defense they play/played. There is no doubt they have great defense but on a bigger ice surface Oswego should have been able to skate around them; and on a normal day I think they would have.
Thank you, at least their is a voice of reason. Not sure what bossman thinks he is talking about.!!! Were you at the game? If not then you did not see what we all saw. If you were, then for some reason you still did not see what we all saw. It is not about excuses. The Oswego players may say they gave it their all (which I am positive they did) but for some reason they were slow and lethargic and beats the hell out of me why!! On a normal night they would not have given the puck away 3 times leading to 3 goals and not been out of position for another!! They lost and all the credit to SNC for the amazing defense they play/played. There is no doubt they have great defense but on a bigger ice surface Oswego should have been able to skate around them; and on a normal day I think they would have.
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You're not too good with this whole 'hockey' thing, are you?
CARDS_rule_the_Burgh
Nate LePage, Siena '13
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Reason for the Lakers Defense look "slow and lethargic":
1) Olympic ice. Only a handful of teams play on ice even CLOSE to that length, and even fewer play on ice even close to that width. And the width is what confused the hell out of the defense. They played their "usual game plan", for which I don't fault them as it HAS been effective, but on the wide surface, that left some holes, and once a Knight got through there, the Lakers then had a LOT more ice than usual to cover in order to catch him. If Gosek said it was mistakes by his team, the only mistake they made was not adjusting the game plan to the larger ice surface.
2) St. Norbert. The Green knights did one hell of a job finding the holes, and breaking loose. They notice what I mentioned in reason #1, and they took advantage of it - repeatedly. That Ryd kid, while not being Musselwhite fast, is FAST. He scored the first breakaway goal unassisted, and assisted the second one. He and Keefer were the only 2 players on either team to walk away with 2 points (Keefer assisted the PPG, and scored the GWG unassisted on the third breakaway goal).
I'm going to be honest, and please don't consider this biased: The better team won on Friday. Earlier this season, I stated that I had no issue with calling OSU the best team in the country. But I think all 3 other teams in the tournament adjusted better to the ice sheet. I would attribute that to the quality of coaching that comes from Coghlin, Emery, and McShane. Gosek is a mighty fine coach, but he is not quite of that caliber.
Congratulations to the Lakers on a GREAT season!
Reason for the Lakers Defense look "slow and lethargic":
1) Olympic ice. Only a handful of teams play on ice even CLOSE to that length, and even fewer play on ice even close to that width. And the width is what confused the hell out of the defense. They played their "usual game plan", for which I don't fault them as it HAS been effective, but on the wide surface, that left some holes, and once a Knight got through there, the Lakers then had a LOT more ice than usual to cover in order to catch him. If Gosek said it was mistakes by his team, the only mistake they made was not adjusting the game plan to the larger ice surface.
2) St. Norbert. The Green knights did one hell of a job finding the holes, and breaking loose. They notice what I mentioned in reason #1, and they took advantage of it - repeatedly. That Ryd kid, while not being Musselwhite fast, is FAST. He scored the first breakaway goal unassisted, and assisted the second one. He and Keefer were the only 2 players on either team to walk away with 2 points (Keefer assisted the PPG, and scored the GWG unassisted on the third breakaway goal).
I'm going to be honest, and please don't consider this biased: The better team won on Friday. Earlier this season, I stated that I had no issue with calling OSU the best team in the country. But I think all 3 other teams in the tournament adjusted better to the ice sheet. I would attribute that to the quality of coaching that comes from Coghlin, Emery, and McShane. Gosek is a mighty fine coach, but he is not quite of that caliber.
Congratulations to the Lakers on a GREAT season!
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As we sat in the Herb Brooks Arena during the weekend's games, we discussed how it appeared in comparison to Kreitzberg Arena, the Norwich home ice. It was hard to tell sitting at center ice in the second row. It didn't appear significantly longer, but it sure looked wider. We weren't sure until I checked the dimensions of both surfaces this morning.
Herb Brooks (if it is std. Olympic dimensions) = 30m (98ft) x 61m (200ft) - As I check different sources here, I'm getting different answers. Now I'm seeing references to 210 feet in length.
Kreitzberg Arena = 90 ft x 200 ft.
I'm sure NUProf will quibble about the conversions, but its good enough for hockey
As we sat in the Herb Brooks Arena during the weekend's games, we discussed how it appeared in comparison to Kreitzberg Arena, the Norwich home ice. It was hard to tell sitting at center ice in the second row. It didn't appear significantly longer, but it sure looked wider. We weren't sure until I checked the dimensions of both surfaces this morning.
Herb Brooks (if it is std. Olympic dimensions) = 30m (98ft) x 61m (200ft) - As I check different sources here, I'm getting different answers. Now I'm seeing references to 210 feet in length.
Kreitzberg Arena = 90 ft x 200 ft.
I'm sure NUProf will quibble about the conversions, but its good enough for hockey
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LakerEagleLover
Well-known member
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FROM THE LAKE PLACID WEBSITE
The '80 rink and the '32 rink are both 100x200, the USA rink is 200x85 and the Lussi rink is 139x98
"Standard North American" dimensions are 200x85 - if your campus rink is standard NA issue, then you are dealing with an additional 15' in width...the length should be the same. Spot checking websites, Plattsburgh lists their ice at 185x85, Elmira at 200x85...haven't found definitive dimensions for Oz yet...
As we sat in the Herb Brooks Arena during the weekend's games, we discussed how it appeared in comparison to Kreitzberg Arena, the Norwich home ice. It was hard to tell sitting at center ice in the second row. It didn't appear significantly longer, but it sure looked wider. We weren't sure until I checked the dimensions of both surfaces this morning.
Herb Brooks (if it is std. Olympic dimensions) = 30m (98ft) x 61m (200ft) - As I check different sources here, I'm getting different answers. Now I'm seeing references to 210 feet in length.
Kreitzberg Arena = 90 ft x 200 ft.
I'm sure NUProf will quibble about the conversions, but its good enough for hockey
FROM THE LAKE PLACID WEBSITE
The '80 rink and the '32 rink are both 100x200, the USA rink is 200x85 and the Lussi rink is 139x98
"Standard North American" dimensions are 200x85 - if your campus rink is standard NA issue, then you are dealing with an additional 15' in width...the length should be the same. Spot checking websites, Plattsburgh lists their ice at 185x85, Elmira at 200x85...haven't found definitive dimensions for Oz yet...
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Ok, so according to this info, HBA is the same length as Kreitzberg (90 x 200), but 10 feet wider. I couldn't find any specs for CCC, which I understand is SNC's home ice.
Ok, so according to this info, HBA is the same length as Kreitzberg (90 x 200), but 10 feet wider. I couldn't find any specs for CCC, which I understand is SNC's home ice.
Birdwatcher
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As far as I know the Lussi rink was torn down last summer.
As far as I know the Lussi rink was torn down last summer.
ColdInRomney
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Back from Lake Placid. Bummer of a game. For the first 10 minutes I figured "OK, nerves, they'll come around- we're a third period team anyway". By the middle of the second I was worried. Having seen Oswego play 20 times this year, this was looking like the team that showed up for the second Geneseo game. The usual crisp passing game wasn't there, the tight defense that swept up any lose pucks in the crease, the team that kept its goalie out of bad situations- not to be found. Whereas I thought a few of our key players had been a half-step behind in a few games this year, this was an epidemic of it! Oswego looked like the team I'm used to seeing for about 10 minutes out of 60- in two bursts. Gunn-Taylor was left out to dry too many times, and these were final four snipers walking in on him.
I couldn't figure out if it was us or if St. Norberts had us figured out and was doing a great job disrupting our flow and keeping us off-balance. I think there was some of both, but after watching the Championship classic, I give a lot of credit to the Knights- they kept Norwich off their main game too. I think they just ran out of gas before the better-conditioned Cadets.
A dissapointment, but still a great year. We won the SUNYAC- which was really the prime objective this year- particularly for the seniors. We may just have peaked a little too early. It seemed like the FSL line lost a little something after the Christmas break, and the team as a whole slumped a bit (if you can call it that ) the last month or so. OK, big games against Plattsburgh and Bowdoin, agreed, but Brockport, Geneseo and the beginning of the Morrisville game were unsettling.
With the loss of Musselwhite, next year will be another rebuilding year , but we've shown we can do that... All-in-all, great job guys, coaches, and fans. Congratulations to St. Norberts and Norwich on an excellent Championship weekend.
Back from Lake Placid. Bummer of a game. For the first 10 minutes I figured "OK, nerves, they'll come around- we're a third period team anyway". By the middle of the second I was worried. Having seen Oswego play 20 times this year, this was looking like the team that showed up for the second Geneseo game. The usual crisp passing game wasn't there, the tight defense that swept up any lose pucks in the crease, the team that kept its goalie out of bad situations- not to be found. Whereas I thought a few of our key players had been a half-step behind in a few games this year, this was an epidemic of it! Oswego looked like the team I'm used to seeing for about 10 minutes out of 60- in two bursts. Gunn-Taylor was left out to dry too many times, and these were final four snipers walking in on him.
I couldn't figure out if it was us or if St. Norberts had us figured out and was doing a great job disrupting our flow and keeping us off-balance. I think there was some of both, but after watching the Championship classic, I give a lot of credit to the Knights- they kept Norwich off their main game too. I think they just ran out of gas before the better-conditioned Cadets.
A dissapointment, but still a great year. We won the SUNYAC- which was really the prime objective this year- particularly for the seniors. We may just have peaked a little too early. It seemed like the FSL line lost a little something after the Christmas break, and the team as a whole slumped a bit (if you can call it that
) the last month or so. OK, big games against Plattsburgh and Bowdoin, agreed, but Brockport, Geneseo and the beginning of the Morrisville game were unsettling.With the loss of Musselwhite, next year will be another rebuilding year
, but we've shown we can do that... All-in-all, great job guys, coaches, and fans. Congratulations to St. Norberts and Norwich on an excellent Championship weekend.