NCAA Hockey - 2023/24 **Insert Witty Tagline**

[dxmnkd316]

I do not subscribe to referee conspiracies, but it’s becoming comical now with goalie interference and gophers getting things disallowed.

Opposing player pushes a gopher into the goalie? No goal. Gophers push a guy into the goalie? Score! Like five times now, it’s bizarre

Right? This is like five in five games. Pretty unprecedented.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Right? This is like five in five games. Pretty unprecedented.

The non penalty on Ohio tonight for the hit on Wisco …big ten reffing is something else

…and now I’ll be told how much worse it is for other leagues, I know.

 

[state of hockey]

The non penalty on Ohio tonight for the hit on Wisco …big ten reffing is something else

…and now I’ll be told how much worse it is for other leagues, I know.

Don’t forget the subtle insinuation that we deserve it, because decades ago other teams were perennial doormats because of officiating.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Don’t forget the subtle insinuation that we deserve it, because decades ago other teams were perennial doormats because of officiating.

It’s almost cute , comes from same people in here. Shrug

 

[unofan]

So being honest, as a Dartmouth guy I haven't had much reason to check the standings in recent years. This year they've been doing better, plus I know they've had an insane amount of ties which just makes for an interesting oddity, but can someone please explain why the conferences use the most convoluted way to tally up points, necessitating upwards of 6 or 7 columns? Or is that just a USCHO thing?

I get that they've gone to a 3-point system and some outcomes are 2-1 rather than 3-0, but then at most you should need 4 columns. W (3 points) - L (0 points) - T (1 point for both teams) - OTW (bonus point for winner) or something like that. If the NCAA needs to track things more specifically because it treats SOW different than OTW, so be it. But good lord.

Now I'm gonna go yell at clouds while I wear an onion on my belt, as was the style at the time...

 

[RaceBoarder]

I thought all you Ivy-types were into complex math and stats....

 

[unofan]

I thought all you Ivy-types were into complex math and stats....

I use my brain at work. I shouldn't have to do more than basic arithmetic to figure out standings for a sport.

 

[dxmnkd316]

My ideal system:

2 = win
1 = tie
0 = loss

OT = 5 mins of 5v5 then it's done.
A win is a win is a win.

 

[dxmnkd316]

I think they use this stupid 3-point system because Americans have this bizarre fear of ties so they want to weight regular wins higher and discourage playing for the tie. Which is absurd. A win is worth 50% more than a tie in a two-point system.

 

[state of hockey]

I don’t mind the three point system, but keep OT five on five so an OT win is three points too. I don’t like the shootout but it isn’t going anywhere.

 

[AmaineBlackBear]

I feel like 2 for a win, 1 for a tie and zero for a loss with a five minute overtime is pretty easy to figure out. Pretty simple and no need to add extra steps, maybe the 3 points for a win discourages teams to "settle" for a tie? I feel like teams have enough incentive to win anyways. That's what the guys on the ice are playing to do.

 

[unofan]

The 3-points for a win comes from anal retentive people who went apeshit at the idea regulation games meted out 2 points but overtime games were worth 3 points (since the loser gets one). They demanded all games hand out the same number of points, so here we are with standings that would cause 99% of people to react with:

 

[state of hockey]

I’m far from anal retentive, but it doesn’t make much sense to have some games worth two and some worth three. Then again I’m not a huge fan of forced parity.

I don’t get why the standings have to be a disaster with the three point system. Especially if OT wins are three points. Should only need W-L-SOW-SOL.

 

[Spartanforlife4]

With MSU losing and UW winning last night, the Big Ten is now guaranteed to come down to the final series in Madison. MSU can take the conference with two regulation wins in the last three games.

 

[Stauber1]

With MSU losing and UW winning last night, the Big Ten is now guaranteed to come down to the final series in Madison. MSU can take the conference with two regulation wins in the last three games.

What's going on with OSU? A team that had 1 conference win all season is now on a 3-game win streak that's come against the top two teams in the conference.

 

[Spartanforlife4]

What's going on with OSU? A team that had 1 conference win all season is now on a 3-game win streak that's come against the top two teams in the conference.

Only caught about ten minutes of the Wisconsin series so I can't speak too much on that, but last night they were getting in front of the puck at every opportunity. They average 12 blocked shots a game and blocked over twice that last night. And MSU had two bad turnovers that led to goals.

 

[Jimjamesak]

So UAF and ASU got into it last night and had 247 PIMs plus 8 Game DQs.

Now, I will admit bias here, but that's the second late game/end game brawl that UAF has had this month (they got into one with UAA earlier) and at least their 3rd in 2-3 seasons (the Omaha one). It amazes me that people continue give UAF passes in spite of numerous incidents.

 

[Spartanforlife4]

So UAF and ASU got into it last night and had 247 PIMs plus 8 Game DQs.

Now, I will admit bias here, but that's the second late game/end game brawl that UAF has had this month (they got into one with UAA earlier) and at least their 3rd in 2-3 seasons (the Omaha one). It amazes me that people continue give UAF passes in spite of numerous incidents.

I figured last night was one independent realizing they were going to be eliminated with one knowing they were eliminated and had nothing to lose if they got any suspensions.

 

[Spartanforlife4]

MSU wins in regulation, Wisconsin wins in OT. Michigan State goes into Madison next week with a two point lead. If I'm reading the tiebreakers correctly, MSU just needs to take at least two points to get the bye. A tie would mean MSU took the season series 8-4 in points. For some reason, points among tied teams is the first tiebreaker among a tie between two teams, but if three teams are involved, it goes to regulation wins and then points between tied teams is the second tiebreaker.

Edit: This is a little confusing. If you search on Google, it brings up tiebreakers published 2/8/24 which lists points percentage. But the 2024 tournament tiebreaker link goes to one published in 2022 which lists winning percentage, which would change things up. The points percentage just means MSU needs two points in some fashion, but the winning percentage means that MSU needs to force a tie in one of the games (and then win the shootout or take both to OT).

 

[Jimjamesak]

I figured last night was one independent realizing they were going to be eliminated with one knowing they were eliminated and had nothing to lose if they got any suspensions.

I get that. I'm just kinda tired of UAF continuously being involved in these incidents and given pass after pass.