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Re: Mr. Trump, I mean Mr. President, which State would You Like To Round Them Up In?
I don't recall Obama lowering that...
I don't recall Obama lowering that...
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Mr. Trump, I mean Mr. President, which State would You Like To Round Them Up In?
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The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: Mr. Trump, I mean Mr. President, which State would You Like To Round Them Up In?
She'd better act fast. Eric Cartman gave it away already.
She'd better act fast. Eric Cartman gave it away already.
Re: Mr. Trump, I mean Mr. President, which State would You Like To Round Them Up In?
Ideally, they would address a major issue not part of PPACA: make employer-provided health insurance benefits non-deductible to the employee; AND make individually-acquired health insurance tax deductible to the insured: this alone would drive the changeover from employer-based coverage to "association" based coverage (individuals get group rates based on some common demographic characteristics). In this setting, you'd have portability and with a well-designed open enrollment window, you could cover most pre-existing conditions except that small percentage with chronic care conditions; which would then be subsidized overtly rather than through some complicated risk-sharing formula with backdoor subsidies. Turn it back over to the states and get the feds out of it. we probably emphasize different elements but in big picture are in substantial agreement.
parents. The courts also are viewing it as the major civil rights issue of our times. It was refreshing to hear Trump say so outright.
There may well be ancillary benefits; US could become net exporter; US could truly become energy independent, we could tell entire Middle East we don't care about them any more; keeping world price low deprives Russia and Iran of earnings from their oil and gas sales. We'll have to see.
semantics. they will keep the best parts but embed them in a true market setting. it is not that complicated.
Ideally, they would address a major issue not part of PPACA: make employer-provided health insurance benefits non-deductible to the employee; AND make individually-acquired health insurance tax deductible to the insured: this alone would drive the changeover from employer-based coverage to "association" based coverage (individuals get group rates based on some common demographic characteristics). In this setting, you'd have portability and with a well-designed open enrollment window, you could cover most pre-existing conditions except that small percentage with chronic care conditions; which would then be subsidized overtly rather than through some complicated risk-sharing formula with backdoor subsidies. Turn it back over to the states and get the feds out of it. we probably emphasize different elements but in big picture are in substantial agreement.
and it also will be a tremendous improvement for inner-city minority children; as more evidence emerges and more rigorously-controlled studies emerge, it is becoming undeniable that charter schools provide minority children a far better education than urban public schools. The greatest demand for school choice and charter schools is coming from urban minority
parents. The courts also are viewing it as the major civil rights issue of our times. It was refreshing to hear Trump say so outright.
which one, the corporate tax plan or the personal tax plan? which would you rather have? 10% of $1 trillion, or 35% of $0? the corporate tax plan will be a net money maker. the personal tax plan I hope they defer until later. lower rates with fewer deductions could be revenue-neutral.
that seems a bit extreme... SCOTUS pick will merely say, go back to having the legislature pass laws, we are taking a sabbatical from legislating from the bench. It merely means longer, harder work to get what you want; you'll have to persuade people of its merits.
totally agree that is a big risk. on the other hand, if he drives a hard bargain and insists on value for the dollar, then we might actually move away from really expensive hardware and move toward more mobile, flexible strike force. What I really want to see in "military" spending is a huge investment in cyber protections. We are woefully unprotected now. Forget traditional military stuff, we need to make sure our infrastructure cannot be hacked.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: Mr. Trump, I mean Mr. President, which State would You Like To Round Them Up In?
Uh-huh. Phony. Got it.
Spoiler Alert --> There is also a way to change that.
Uh-huh. Phony. Got it.
Spoiler Alert --> There is also a way to change that.
Re: Mr. Trump, I mean Mr. President, which State would You Like To Round Them Up In?
I'm not sold on term limits. If people want their senator or congress person to keep serving, that should be their choice. With artificial term limits you lose a lot of institutional knowledge because you're constantly throwing out the most experienced people. We have term limits in Maine (4 consecutive terms), and there are a few long-time lawmakers that get around it by bouncing back and forth between the house and senate. One in particular has been in the Maine legislature since 1964 and is renowned for his institutional knowledge and he complains that with all the new people more power ends up in the hands of lobbyists and legislative staff (since they end up being the only people with experience, they end up actually writing the legislation). If the people want to term limit their own rep they can do that -- that is what elections are for. they just need to vote against the incumbent in the primary (and make sure the incumbent isn't unopposed in the primary). If people have a very effective senator with senior committee positions and they are happy with them, they should get to keep them.
the real problem is incumbents sail through their primary, and if you are ideologically aligned with their party you are probably going to vote for them, so people rarely get voted out. They should have to go through a real primary, defend their record to their party, with ranked choice voting to keep a split primary vote from nominating a crazy person with very narrow appeal.
I'm not sold on term limits. If people want their senator or congress person to keep serving, that should be their choice. With artificial term limits you lose a lot of institutional knowledge because you're constantly throwing out the most experienced people. We have term limits in Maine (4 consecutive terms), and there are a few long-time lawmakers that get around it by bouncing back and forth between the house and senate. One in particular has been in the Maine legislature since 1964 and is renowned for his institutional knowledge and he complains that with all the new people more power ends up in the hands of lobbyists and legislative staff (since they end up being the only people with experience, they end up actually writing the legislation). If the people want to term limit their own rep they can do that -- that is what elections are for. they just need to vote against the incumbent in the primary (and make sure the incumbent isn't unopposed in the primary). If people have a very effective senator with senior committee positions and they are happy with them, they should get to keep them.
the real problem is incumbents sail through their primary, and if you are ideologically aligned with their party you are probably going to vote for them, so people rarely get voted out. They should have to go through a real primary, defend their record to their party, with ranked choice voting to keep a split primary vote from nominating a crazy person with very narrow appeal.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: Mr. Trump, I mean Mr. President, which State would You Like To Round Them Up In?
Today the same could be done with the SWAT Team from Los Angeles, no, Houston, no, Minneapolis, no, Akron. No. Sioux Falls.
Today the same could be done with the SWAT Team from Los Angeles, no, Houston, no, Minneapolis, no, Akron. No. Sioux Falls.
Re: Mr. Trump, I mean Mr. President, which State would You Like To Round Them Up In?
by the way, if you want any consumer goods like flat screen TVs, laptops, or iPhones, you might want to buy them now before the trade war starts!
People aren't going to be so excited if that stuff starts getting made here but they can no longer afford a new 50" TV or iPhone 7. All for a few jobs for some American robots.
by the way, if you want any consumer goods like flat screen TVs, laptops, or iPhones, you might want to buy them now before the trade war starts!
People aren't going to be so excited if that stuff starts getting made here but they can no longer afford a new 50" TV or iPhone 7. All for a few jobs for some American robots.
Re: Mr. Trump, I mean Mr. President, which State would You Like To Round Them Up In?
It is amusing to hear all the talk about moving to Canada.*
Canada has strict immigration laws. You apply and list all your best attributes. They then rank your attributes and give you a score. Each year, a limited number of people with the highest scores are allowed to immigrate.
There is a waiting list.
Apparently some entrepreneur has already started a website for single Americans to search for single Canadians to explore marriage prospects, one way to circumvent the process.
* why not Bermuda, or some island nation in the Caribbean?
It is amusing to hear all the talk about moving to Canada.*
Canada has strict immigration laws. You apply and list all your best attributes. They then rank your attributes and give you a score. Each year, a limited number of people with the highest scores are allowed to immigrate.
There is a waiting list.
Apparently some entrepreneur has already started a website for single Americans to search for single Canadians to explore marriage prospects, one way to circumvent the process.
* why not Bermuda, or some island nation in the Caribbean?
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: Mr. Trump, I mean Mr. President, which State would You Like To Round Them Up In?
Or some podunk county in the middle of nowhere with their tanks.
Or some podunk county in the middle of nowhere with their tanks.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: Mr. Trump, I mean Mr. President, which State would You Like To Round Them Up In?
Belize.
I actually know people going to do it ... not kidding.
Belize.
I actually know people going to do it ... not kidding.
Russell Jaslow
Registered User
Re: Mr. Trump, I mean Mr. President, which State would You Like To Round Them Up In?
Oh, heck. Anybody on this board will get to the top of the list no problem. After all, they do rate your hockey knowledge, don't they?
Oh, heck. Anybody on this board will get to the top of the list no problem. After all, they do rate your hockey knowledge, don't they?
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Mr. Trump, I mean Mr. President, which State would You Like To Round Them Up In?
We were in Belize this year. English-speaking sub-tropical countries do not suck.
We were in Belize this year. English-speaking sub-tropical countries do not suck.
Re: Mr. Trump, I mean Mr. President, which State would You Like To Round Them Up In?
The Constitutional Convention of 2018, held in (name of city) will be a DOOZY!
The Constitutional Convention of 2018, held in (name of city) will be a DOOZY!
Re: Mr. Trump, I mean Mr. President, which State would You Like To Round Them Up In?
Hey, so about that whole Trump business interests being placed in a blind trust run by his awful children. Not so much, since his awful children are on the executive transition team. The whole blind trust tradition is going to go the same way as the candidate releasing taxes tradition.
Also his son-in-law is on there, and he asked during his White House tour how many of the staffers would be sticking around for their term.
No ****, genius. Clearly you missed the target of the joke and the follow-up post.
Hey, so about that whole Trump business interests being placed in a blind trust run by his awful children. Not so much, since his awful children are on the executive transition team. The whole blind trust tradition is going to go the same way as the candidate releasing taxes tradition.
Also his son-in-law is on there, and he asked during his White House tour how many of the staffers would be sticking around for their term.
No ****, genius. Clearly you missed the target of the joke and the follow-up post.
Slap Shot
I got nothing
Re: Mr. Trump, I mean Mr. President, which State would You Like To Round Them Up In?
So are you saying his entire campaign was a facade or he's now trying to pull fast one over everyone?
Yes because if history has shown us anything it's that starving a country usually leads to positive things globally.
Are you being intentionally obtuse?
So are you saying his entire campaign was a facade or he's now trying to pull fast one over everyone?
Yes because if history has shown us anything it's that starving a country usually leads to positive things globally.
Are you being intentionally obtuse?
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Re: Mr. Trump, I mean Mr. President, which State would You Like To Round Them Up In?
such as the breakup of the former Soviet Union, for example.
such as the breakup of the former Soviet Union, for example.
rufus
rock and roller
Re: Mr. Trump, I mean Mr. President, which State would You Like To Round Them Up In?
He's a con man, and a huckster. He'll tell anyone anything he has to to close the deal.
He's a con man, and a huckster. He'll tell anyone anything he has to to close the deal.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: Mr. Trump, I mean Mr. President, which State would You Like To Round Them Up In?
Trump is President-elect, and these are his proposals. I'm stating my opinion, which is not a reflection on what Obama has done. And while Obama's defense policy wasn't ideal, with policy statements like these...
"Contract with the American Voter" (a title which he plagiarized from Fig Newt, of course)
9. Restore the National Security Act. Rebuilds our military by eliminating the defense sequester and expanding military investment.
...we can only deduce that he plans to be Obama on steroids.
Funny how by playing the "Obama bad!" card, a self-proclaimed "libertarian" is tacitly defending that spending increase. Libertarian, indeed.
Trump is President-elect, and these are his proposals. I'm stating my opinion, which is not a reflection on what Obama has done. And while Obama's defense policy wasn't ideal, with policy statements like these...
"Contract with the American Voter" (a title which he plagiarized from Fig Newt, of course)
9. Restore the National Security Act. Rebuilds our military by eliminating the defense sequester and expanding military investment.
...we can only deduce that he plans to be Obama on steroids.
Funny how by playing the "Obama bad!" card, a self-proclaimed "libertarian" is tacitly defending that spending increase. Libertarian, indeed.
leswp1
Well-known member
Re: Mr. Trump, I mean Mr. President, which State would You Like To Round Them Up In?
Shocker. All the talk about dynasty in Washington with the chosen few. THis guy skips the social veneer and just outright espouses nepotism but the new anointed has a good, good reason. Tremendous reasons. The very best.
Anyone heard what is going on on the national security front? I know there were numerous (I heard up to 85%) of the leaders there publicly stated they would step out if tD was elected.
Shocker. All the talk about dynasty in Washington with the chosen few. THis guy skips the social veneer and just outright espouses nepotism but the new anointed has a good, good reason. Tremendous reasons. The very best.
Anyone heard what is going on on the national security front? I know there were numerous (I heard up to 85%) of the leaders there publicly stated they would step out if tD was elected.
rufus
rock and roller
Re: Mr. Trump, I mean Mr. President, which State would You Like To Round Them Up In?
Heard they were having trouble finding qualified people to fill those positions, for exactly the reason you say, the top security people said they'd never work for him.
So we'll have our national security in the hands of inexperienced partisans led by incompetent Trump-chosen political hacks. But I'm sure the women will all be hot. Can't wait.
Heard they were having trouble finding qualified people to fill those positions, for exactly the reason you say, the top security people said they'd never work for him.
So we'll have our national security in the hands of inexperienced partisans led by incompetent Trump-chosen political hacks. But I'm sure the women will all be hot. Can't wait.