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MOVIES: New Ideas Welcome!

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ScoobyDoo said:
I loved Chicago, however, Roxie Hart (1942) was better.
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Chicago was great. It was never going to out perform the Broadway version, but it seemed to capture the stage work while mixing in a movie. I was unaware of and now need to watch the '42 version.

Phantom of the Opera was another play-to-film that I loved.

La La Land looked interesting, but I'll wait to catch it on HBO or Netflix. The reviews that it's fantastic despite Stone and Gossling aren't promising.

As for Baz Luhrmman musicals, the Great Gatsby had potential but became disinteresting fast, Moulin Rouge was a little too overboard for me, and Romeo and Juliet was... terrible.

Now if you excuse me, I seem to have misplaced my man card...
 
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aparch said:
Chicago was great. It was never going to out perform the Broadway version, but it seemed to capture the stage work while mixing in a movie. I was unaware of and now need to watch the '42 version.

Phantom of the Opera was another play-to-film that I loved.

La La Land looked interesting, but I'll wait to catch it on HBO or Netflix. The reviews that it's fantastic despite Stone and Gossling aren't promising.

As for Baz Luhrmman musicals, the Great Gatsby had potential but became disinteresting fast, Moulin Rouge was a little too overboard for me, and Romeo and Juliet was... terrible.

Now if you excuse me, I seem to have misplaced my man card...
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Chicago was very good. BTW the old version is referenced in Virginia Wolfe.

Phantom we'll agree to disagree. Way too ALW* for me.

LLL will lose nothing if you wait for the small screen. It's a fine little inside joke movie, like Bandwagon. Goselin is... uh... well I guess he's cute? Stone is actually wonderful. IMO she steals the show.

I love Moulin Rouge but it was essentially pure heroin for me so I have to recuse myself. You couldn't pay me to see Gatsby.


* Not a compliment
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
6? No. Just no.
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So then what is the number? Can it win 4? 3? You are making up an arbitrary number because the movie you liked won that many.

Hey I got no skin in this game I never saw it but you are Drumpfing this one by just making up your own facts ;) Hell even Kepler is not in agreement fully with you ;)

You like a movie, others didnt.
 
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Kind of on a tangent, but have a question regarding Oscar wins and appeal to the General Public:

Other than Titanic, what other movies are there that were Box Office leaders (general public appeal) while also appealing greatly to the more artistic/technical Oscar crowd?

Just curious since I'm very much a casual, uneducated movie goer who likes tent pole franchises mostly. The nominee list is mostly movies I've never heard of until I see some chatter regarding nominees from blogs/sites I follow because of comics book movies.
 
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RaceBoarder said:
Kind of on a tangent, but have a question regarding Oscar wins and appeal to the General Public:

Other than Titanic, what other movies are there that were Box Office leaders (general public appeal) while also appealing greatly to the more artistic/technical Oscar crowd?
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Most of the winners up through the 60s were both. Then something happened and intelligent movies and popular movies started to diverge. I can't quite put my finger on it...
 
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RaceBoarder said:
Kind of on a tangent, but have a question regarding Oscar wins and appeal to the General Public:

Other than Titanic, what other movies are there that were Box Office leaders (general public appeal) while also appealing greatly to the more artistic/technical Oscar crowd?

Just curious since I'm very much a casual, uneducated movie goer who likes tent pole franchises mostly. The nominee list is mostly movies I've never heard of until I see some chatter regarding nominees from blogs/sites I follow because of comics book movies.
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Basically all the voting is political. Just like everything else in life that is subjective. That's humanity. Always has been, always will be. I appreciate the art for what it is, regardless. Is it wrong that Dances With Wolves, Shakespeare in Love, and Forrest Gump won? Probably. But, it reflects what happened at the time and votes can be "split" among movies in such a way that a movie wins that probably shouldn't have.

Judy Holiday winning Best Actress was probably the biggest steal of all time. But, Hollywood loves movies about itself that are positive (La La Land) and hates movies that aren't positive (Sunset Boulevard). Hell, Sunset should have won Best picture that year too.

It happens. Appreciate the history and the politics of it and realize that nominations are what matter the most not the wins themselves.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Judy Holiday winning Best Actress was probably the biggest steal of all time.
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Was that political? I thought it was simply a matter Baxter (who should have won) and Davis (a Hollywood darling) splitting the Eve vote right down the middle, allowing Holiday to sneak across the line first.

I would actually disagree with you that Hollywood hates movies that portray Hollywood negatively. I think they LOVE it, because it makes them the center of attention. LLL definitely benefitted from that, but of course Moonlight would never have won without Statement Politics (c.f. Spotlight, 12 Years a Slave, Million Dollar Baby, Schindler's List, Chariots of Fire, all of which owe a large part of their success to being on the "right side of history.")
 
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Kepler said:
Was that political? I thought it was simply a matter Baxter (who should have won) and Davis (a Hollywood darling) splitting the Eve vote right down the middle, allowing Holiday to sneak across the line first.
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Baxter should not have won either. That was Gloria Swanson's Oscar that was stolen. The Eve vote split. Hollywood hated Sunset Boulevard (the politics). So, Judy Holiday won.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Baxter should not have won either. That was Gloria Swanson's Oscar that was stolen. The Eve vote split. Hollywood hated Sunset Boulevard (the politics). So, Judy Holiday won.
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Oh, please. Gloria Swanson ate scenery and was no more Oscar-worthy than whoever ran around in the King Kong costume. There is a difference between memorable acting and good acting.

Holden, however, was brilliant. And I'd have given von Stonheim (sp?) a run for Best Supporting.

But here's a test. Sunset is for my money one of the ten best screenplays of all time. Did it win?
 
ScoobyDoo said:
Basically all the voting is political. Just like everything else in life that is subjective. That's humanity. Always has been, always will be. I appreciate the art for what it is, regardless. Is it wrong that Dances With Wolves, Shakespeare in Love, and Forrest Gump won? Probably. But, it reflects what happened at the time and votes can be "split" among movies in such a way that a movie wins that probably shouldn't have.

Judy Holiday winning Best Actress was probably the biggest steal of all time. But, Hollywood loves movies about itself that are positive (La La Land) and hates movies that aren't positive (Sunset Boulevard). Hell, Sunset should have won Best picture that year too.

It happens. Appreciate the history and the politics of it and realize that nominations are what matter the most not the wins themselves.
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Forrest Gump winning over Shawshank, Quiz Show, and Pulp Fiction is one of the all-time bad Oscar decisions. Inexcusable.
 
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Kepler said:
Oh, please. Gloria Swanson ate scenery and was no more Oscar-worthy than whoever ran around in the King Kong costume. There is a difference between memorable acting and good acting.

Holden, however, was brilliant. And I'd have given von Stonheim (sp?) a run for Best Supporting.

But here's a test. Sunset is for my money one of the ten best screenplays of all time. Did it win?
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I disagree, but, whatever.

They did win for screenplay as far as I can tell.
 
Handyman said:
While what he did is terrible if you want to disqualify everyone in Hollywood who is pure slime then there wont be many left...
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Agreed, even as a woman I feel like nothing really surprises me anymore after we elected an admitted groper
 
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Rewatching the ending, I like how the guy who eventually says "We lost by the way" knows that they lost and doesn't want to say his part, but the guy thanking before him is unaware, so he sort of pushes him up to the mic to give his speech.
 
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