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MOVIES: New Ideas Welcome!

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dxmnkd316 said:
More evidence that I'm losing them. I used to hate IPAs. Summit EPA was too hoppy for me. Now IPAs are my go to during the summer or if there isn't a great selection. Stouts are my absolute favorites though.

Weird.
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I think most beer drinkers start with not liking IPAs, and their tastes shift as they try new beers. I started not liking beer at all, then I found some good stouts I liked, that turned into other malt-forward beers, and eventually I found some pale ales I liked. At that point it was just a matter of time before I liked the hoppy stuff. Even look at Brent, he used to think that anything hoppy was devil water, and now even he has found some hoppy beers that he really likes. The same thing probably happens with coffee.
 
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Just to further this, I have a theory that bitter receptors fade with age. Look at kids and vegetables. A lot of them that are on the most hated list of kids are some of the more bitter greens. Broccoli being the first that comes to mind.

It might also be an evolutionary trait. A lot of naturally occurring poisonous substances tended to be bitter, or so I've read. So this might be a trait we lose with time since we become more adept at identifying things that won't kill us. Again, as a kid, broccoli might as well have been a cyanide and strychnine cocktail. Now, it's fine. I'll eat it.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
It might also be an evolutionary trait. A lot of naturally occurring poisonous substances tended to be bitter, or so I've read. So this might be a trait we lose with time since we become more adept at identifying things that won't kill us.
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Or it's a way to kill off old* people who aren't producing new children but are costing food. Nature's a b-tch.

(* and by "old" in evolutionary terms that means 40)
 
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I love coffee and hate bitter hoppy beers :)

Back on movies...I saw Hidden Figures. What a great movie! This story should be taught in schools we shouldnt need a book/movie to learn about it!

My gf is meeting the author of the book when she comes to town. She loves the book even more than the movie :D
 
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Kepler said:
I wish coffee didn't taste like feet. I'd be an addict since I require all of those things to function.

But coffee does taste like feet. That's it's one crippling flaw -- it's just awful. The only things that fix that problem destroy the purpose of drinking coffee rather than something that tastes good.
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Make coffee toecicles and suck on them. Maybe the association will change things for you.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
Even look at Brent, he used to think that anything hoppy was devil water, and now even he has found some hoppy beers that he really likes.
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I'd like to know which. I completely realize that most of the truly interesting experiments with flavor in beers are in IPAs and other hoppy beers, it's just so far the learning curve has been bleech too steep.
 
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Kepler said:
I'd like to know which. I completely realize that most of the truly interesting experiments with flavor in beers are in IPAs and other hoppy beers, it's just so far the learning curve has been bleech too steep.
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I'm sure he can give some examples when he gets online later, he usually checks out this thread.

PAGING BRENTHOVEN. BRENTHOVEN PLEASE REPORT TO MOVIE THREAD.
 
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Kepler said:
I'd like to know which. I completely realize that most of the truly interesting experiments with flavor in beers are in IPAs and other hoppy beers, it's just so far the learning curve has been bleech too steep.
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While not 100% foolproof, a good place to start is by looking at the beer's IBU rating (International Bitterness Units). My wife, who is somewhat of a beginner in the IPA league, uses it to some success, and many restaurants, bars and taprooms list it with the name of the beer and the description.
 
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SJHovey said:
While not 100% foolproof, a good place to start is by looking at the beer's IBU rating (International Bitterness Units). My wife, who is somewhat of a beginner in the IPA league, uses it to some success, and many restaurants, bars and taprooms list it with the name of the beer and the description.
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To some extent, you're right. One exception is, I know many people whose "gateway" IPA is a very high IBU Imperial IPA, but an Imperial IPA that is very well balanced, so even though it is high IBU, it doesn't hit you in the face with the bitterness. My recommendation would be to find a well balanced IPA, regardless of IBU, to try out, because it won't be quite as aggressive. Definitely don't start with a Stone, or a Surly, or a few others that lean heavier on the hops side of the balance. I love their beers, but their IPAs aren't for everyone. Right now, there are many NE IPAs out there, that many would be a good gateway IPA, they're citrussy, juicy, and pretty well-balanced. Don't be turned off by the hazy appearance. Lastly, try to find IPAs that are fresh, if they sit a while, they deteriorate quickly, and many end up being more bitter, without the flavor.
 
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And I'm not really an IPA fan, but I find I like the fruitier or more citrus hop styles better than I do the more piney hops.
 
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SJHovey said:
While not 100% foolproof, a good place to start is by looking at the beer's IBU rating (International Bitterness Units). My wife, who is somewhat of a beginner in the IPA league, uses it to some success, and many restaurants, bars and taprooms list it with the name of the beer and the description.
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That's a good start.

Of course at the moment I'm completely banned from alcohol until I lose weight, but beer is life and life is beer, and that is ample motivation for getting it off quickly.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
To some extent, you're right. One exception is, I know many people whose "gateway" IPA is a very high IBU Imperial IPA, but an Imperial IPA that is very well balanced, so even though it is high IBU, it doesn't hit you in the face with the bitterness. My recommendation would be to find a well balanced IPA, regardless of IBU, to try out, because it won't be quite as aggressive. Definitely don't start with a Stone, or a Surly, or a few others that lean heavier on the hops side of the balance. I love their beers, but their IPAs aren't for everyone. Right now, there are many NE IPAs out there, that many would be a good gateway IPA, they're citrussy, juicy, and pretty well-balanced. Don't be turned off by the hazy appearance. Lastly, try to find IPAs that are fresh, if they sit a while, they deteriorate quickly, and many end up being more bitter, without the flavor.
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My gateway was Surly Overrated. Which is not a mild IPA. It's an IPA-lover's IPA.
 
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rufus said:
And I'm not really an IPA fan, but I find I like the fruitier or more citrus hop styles better than I do the more piney hops.
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Descheutes Fresh Squeezed is incredible in that regard. Probably my absolute favorite IPA. Even my mom likes it and she does not like IPAs.
 
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I kinda like the Lagunitas what was it, L'il Something Something? Not my favorite, and I probably wouldn't go for more than one or two, but it was drinkable.
 
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Ballast Point Sculpin (regular version.)

But bbdl is right: Imperial IPAs or black IPAs are the way to go in my world. Odells Peach Imperial is friggin' awesome.
 
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Let’s face it – most of us first indulged beer with Busch Light, Old Swill, Keystone….so the first time we tried (pick your favorite IPA) it was a huge shock. I started earlier than some though in making the switch. When I was 19 I worked at Tonka Bottle Shop the owner made us sample the good stuff he had on hand (including wine, scotch, etc.) because he wanted us to know what we were selling. It didn’t take long before Sam Adams was the gateway to Sierra Nevada, Stone, Goose Island, etc., etc.

My dad used to always have Pabst, Schmidt’s, Old Style, etc. in the fridge. I remember the first time I came home from college and there was instead Summit (or something like that). Turns out all those years he hid the good stuff and said he wouldn’t risk having it on hand because he knew we’d pilfer it. He did the same thing with technology. Suddenly he had a large screen TV and Bose surround system. Bastage!
 
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