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Mookie's top 27 list took care of these arguments long long ago
Mookie's top 27 list took care of these arguments long long ago
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MOVIES: New Ideas Welcome!
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I saw Murder in the First in the theaters. Kevin Bacon is great in it.
I saw Murder in the First in the theaters. Kevin Bacon is great in it.
mookie1995
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...this man was arrested for being in too many bad moods
...this man was arrested for being in too many bad moods
Enjoyed the book a lot. Read it before the movie was out though. Movie was excellent
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Iowa Baseball Confederacy is even better. Kinsella was a first rate second rate writer. A good read.
Iowa Baseball Confederacy is even better. Kinsella was a first rate second rate writer. A good read.
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That's all plot. The plot doesn't matter at all. The book is about Ender's mind and the philosophy of the misfit. And for that it's never been topped, particularly in SF which tends to have 2-dimensional wish fulfillment characters.
It was an incredible downer to discover Card is a jerk. I still don't know how a jerk could write that sensitive and nuanced a psychology of a character.
That's all plot. The plot doesn't matter at all. The book is about Ender's mind and the philosophy of the misfit. And for that it's never been topped, particularly in SF which tends to have 2-dimensional wish fulfillment characters.
It was an incredible downer to discover Card is a jerk. I still don't know how a jerk could write that sensitive and nuanced a psychology of a character.
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All the Bond movies, even if they only used the title.
I've heard the book Gone with the Wind is dreadful.
I tried reading Colossus once and it's crap.
All the Bond movies, even if they only used the title.
I've heard the book Gone with the Wind is dreadful.
I tried reading Colossus once and it's crap.
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I didn't even know Strangelove and Die Hard came from books.
Whoever says that about Fight Club is an idiot. The book is superior to the movie and I LOVE the movie.
I didn't even know Strangelove and Die Hard came from books.
Whoever says that about Fight Club is an idiot. The book is superior to the movie and I LOVE the movie.
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American Psycho. I didn't read the book but had a buddy who did. He said it was painful to read. Apparently the book does stuff like take 8 pages to describe the outfit Patrick Bateman is wearing, etc. You can only imagine the graphic scenes.
The movie rules, however.
American Psycho. I didn't read the book but had a buddy who did. He said it was painful to read. Apparently the book does stuff like take 8 pages to describe the outfit Patrick Bateman is wearing, etc. You can only imagine the graphic scenes.
The movie rules, however.
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I actually thought the book was better than the movie, although admittedly I didn't really like the movie.
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Also: 2001. The book is OK, the movie is a masterpiece.
For 99.99% of the audience, The Name of the Rose. The book is spectacular but you have to really want it, and I don't blame readers who don't want an 800-page erudite discourse on Medieval Catholic fringe movements and heresies. (Though if you do, my God the book is pure erotic delight.) For normal people, the movie is fun and picturesque, and in all honesty Connery is a perfect embodiment of what Eco was looking for in his William of Baskerville.
Also: 2001. The book is OK, the movie is a masterpiece.
For 99.99% of the audience, The Name of the Rose. The book is spectacular but you have to really want it, and I don't blame readers who don't want an 800-page erudite discourse on Medieval Catholic fringe movements and heresies. (Though if you do, my God the book is pure erotic delight.) For normal people, the movie is fun and picturesque, and in all honesty Connery is a perfect embodiment of what Eco was looking for in his William of Baskerville.
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Gonna have to see it again. I remember seeing it with a Richter 7.5 headache and, surprise, not enjoying the experience. Is Woody in that? I may be confused but my memory is it was the first time I saw Woody after "Cheers" and I thought, "whoa -- that dimwitted farmboy can act!"
Speaking of Woody: A Scanner Darkly. Book is very good but very, very Dick and impenetrable unless you've read a lot of him ("taken a lot of Dick"?) . Movie was 50x more fun and somehow just as weird.
Speaking of Dick: Bladerunner. 1000x better than the book which is the only Dick book I've ever put down unfinished. It's just not very good. In fact I think this is the archetype for movie better than the book.
Wizard of Oz kinda sucks as a book, too. (I know, heresy.)
Gonna have to see it again. I remember seeing it with a Richter 7.5 headache and, surprise, not enjoying the experience. Is Woody in that? I may be confused but my memory is it was the first time I saw Woody after "Cheers" and I thought, "whoa -- that dimwitted farmboy can act!"
Speaking of Woody: A Scanner Darkly. Book is very good but very, very Dick and impenetrable unless you've read a lot of him ("taken a lot of Dick"?) . Movie was 50x more fun and somehow just as weird.
Speaking of Dick: Bladerunner. 1000x better than the book which is the only Dick book I've ever put down unfinished. It's just not very good. In fact I think this is the archetype for movie better than the book.
Wizard of Oz kinda sucks as a book, too. (I know, heresy.)
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2001 (movie) was awful. Only surpassed by Clockwork Orange. Which was absolute garbage.
Last time I made this point, I received this rep:
2001 (movie) was awful. Only surpassed by Clockwork Orange. Which was absolute garbage.
Last time I made this point, I received this rep:
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I don't remember Woody in that movie. To be candid, I haven't seen it since its theatrical release, and really have no desire to see it again, so it's possible he had some role.Gonna have to see it again. I remember seeing it with a Richter 7.5 headache and, surprise, not enjoying the experience. Is Woody in that? I may be confused but my memory is it was the first time I saw Woody after "Cheers" and I thought, "whoa -- that dimwitted farmboy can act!"
Speaking of Woody: A Scanner Darkly. Book is very good but very, very Dick and impenetrable unless you've read a lot of him ("taken a lot of Dick"?) . Movie was 50x more fun and somehow just as weird.
Speaking of Dick: Bladerunner. 1000x better than the book which is the only Dick book I've ever put down unfinished. It's just not very good. In fact I think this is the archetype for movie better than the book.
Wizard of Oz kinda sucks as a book, too. (I know, heresy.)
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I thought that was Keanu Reeves??
...and I liked the "reveal" in the book better, I wasn't sure how the movie would be able to pull it off....
EDIT: both Harrelson and Reeves are in it.
I thought that was Keanu Reeves??
...and I liked the "reveal" in the book better, I wasn't sure how the movie would be able to pull it off....
EDIT: both Harrelson and Reeves are in it.
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We've discussed this before. I would recommend you try them again. They are, in fact, truly great movies. CO is a 9.5.
2001 is a 9.8. Casablanca is clearly better. Wizard of Oz is clearly better. Singin in the Rain is clearly better. Murnau's Nosferatu is better. Double Indemnity and Citizen Kane are virtually dead even. Bergman, Fellini and Herzog all have multiple movies that are in the ballpark. And that's about it.
We've discussed this before. I would recommend you try them again. They are, in fact, truly great movies. CO is a 9.5.
2001 is a 9.8. Casablanca is clearly better. Wizard of Oz is clearly better. Singin in the Rain is clearly better. Murnau's Nosferatu is better. Double Indemnity and Citizen Kane are virtually dead even. Bergman, Fellini and Herzog all have multiple movies that are in the ballpark. And that's about it.
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I thought he was the lead so I'm obviously misremembering. Oh, never mind, i'm thinking of Natural Born Killers. I've never seen American Psycho and have no wish to.
I thought he was the lead so I'm obviously misremembering. Oh, never mind, i'm thinking of Natural Born Killers. I've never seen American Psycho and have no wish to.
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Yes, they're both in it and they both do a great job. I assume they were both insanely coked up during filming. You'd have to be to keep it up all day.
Yes, they're both in it and they both do a great job. I assume they were both insanely coked up during filming. You'd have to be to keep it up all day.
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