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MOVIES: New Ideas Welcome!
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Handyman
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Well see Scooby there are really beautiful women out there...and many of them dont give a crap about the book Dune. To be seen reading that book would have made sure said beautiful woman would never talk to me, so I didnt read it
and now I am probably being shamed on twitter cause I said "beautiful" and "lady" and implied that women are misogynistic or something
Well see Scooby there are really beautiful women out there...and many of them dont give a crap about the book Dune. To be seen reading that book would have made sure said beautiful woman would never talk to me, so I didnt read it
and now I am probably being shamed on twitter cause I said "beautiful" and "lady" and implied that women are misogynistic or something
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
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The movie or the book?
The movie is the brain dead version. It's very pretty and it gave the tweens a storyline even they could understand.
The book is a completely different creature. It's a genuinely original and interesting idea. Speaker for the Dead, the sequel, is not as brilliant but if anything the ideas are deeper.
The movie or the book?
The movie is the brain dead version. It's very pretty and it gave the tweens a storyline even they could understand.
The book is a completely different creature. It's a genuinely original and interesting idea. Speaker for the Dead, the sequel, is not as brilliant but if anything the ideas are deeper.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
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The book was a cromulent, B-list, sci-fi thriller.
The sequels are a snoozefest - I lost interest in the series early on in #3, Xenophobia. Card would've been better off telling other stories within that universe, and then bringing some of them back for the conclusion (like C.S. Lewis did with The Chronicles of Narnia), instead of trying to work Ender Wiggins into every novel. The character is just not that interesting. We get it - he hates himself for destroying an entire race of living beings, and spends the rest of his life trying to atone for it. *yawn*
The book was a cromulent, B-list, sci-fi thriller.
The sequels are a snoozefest - I lost interest in the series early on in #3, Xenophobia. Card would've been better off telling other stories within that universe, and then bringing some of them back for the conclusion (like C.S. Lewis did with The Chronicles of Narnia), instead of trying to work Ender Wiggins into every novel. The character is just not that interesting. We get it - he hates himself for destroying an entire race of living beings, and spends the rest of his life trying to atone for it. *yawn*
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Kepler
Si certus es dubita
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Wrong. Read it again. Repeat until you get it.
Wrong. Read it again. Repeat until you get it.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
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Sorry, I don't see what there is to "get".
1. Government removes child prodigy from home at young age
2. Government brainwashes child prodigy by claiming an opposing race of sentient beings is planning another genocidal war effort
3. Government uses child prodigy to kill off opposing race of sentient beings that was actually just trying to live in peace
4. Child prodigy finds out the truth, and vows to resurrect the race of sentient beings that he killed off
He could have ended the story there, and it's perfectly cromulent, but instead...
5. Proceed to write a bunch more increasingly uninspiring books about child prodigy growing into an adult
6. ...
7. Profit
Sorry, I don't see what there is to "get".
1. Government removes child prodigy from home at young age
2. Government brainwashes child prodigy by claiming an opposing race of sentient beings is planning another genocidal war effort
3. Government uses child prodigy to kill off opposing race of sentient beings that was actually just trying to live in peace
4. Child prodigy finds out the truth, and vows to resurrect the race of sentient beings that he killed off
He could have ended the story there, and it's perfectly cromulent, but instead...
5. Proceed to write a bunch more increasingly uninspiring books about child prodigy growing into an adult
6. ...
7. Profit
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
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I recall Kepler using it to describe how he came to terms with The Dark Knight, so I just learned it from the best snob.
I recall Kepler using it to describe how he came to terms with The Dark Knight, so I just learned it from the best snob.
Handyman
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Besides Kepler, the only people I know who like Ender's Game are 7th graders. To be fair they probably also like The Bachelor
I recall Kepler using it to describe how he came to terms with The Dark Knight, so I just learned it from the best snob.
Besides Kepler, the only people I know who like Ender's Game are 7th graders. To be fair they probably also like The Bachelor
Slap Shot
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bostonewe
Short/Round
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The Godfather. I enjoyed the book, but not as much as the movie.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
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Yes, those examples exist, but often people don't know about them. For me, The Princess Bride counts amongst them as the book lost me in the sort of fairytale/lore thing Morgenstern tried to do. If we're to include TV series, I'd go with Game of Thrones, the book series is A Song of Ice and Fire. I'm sure there are many other examples.
Yes, those examples exist, but often people don't know about them. For me, The Princess Bride counts amongst them as the book lost me in the sort of fairytale/lore thing Morgenstern tried to do. If we're to include TV series, I'd go with Game of Thrones, the book series is A Song of Ice and Fire. I'm sure there are many other examples.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
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I'd like to believe that if one looked hard enough that there is a beautiful woman reading Dune somewhere in the World. It's gotta be rare but it's gotta be possible.
That ship has long sailed for me.Well see Scooby there are really beautiful women out there...and many of them dont give a crap about the book Dune. To be seen reading that book would have made sure said beautiful woman would never talk to me, so I didnt read it
and now I am probably being shamed on twitter cause I said "beautiful" and "lady" and implied that women are misogynistic or something
I'd like to believe that if one looked hard enough that there is a beautiful woman reading Dune somewhere in the World. It's gotta be rare but it's gotta be possible.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
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You need to find the women in their 20s now. They exist in larger quantities as "geek culture" has grown with that generation, it's just a question of whether or not they're reading that specific book.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
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Yeah, I grew up at the wrong time. No Geek culture in my generation.
Yeah, I grew up at the wrong time. No Geek culture in my generation.
bigblue_dl
Armed
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So it is essentially the same storyline as Black Mirror's Men Against Fire. (I've never seen or read Ender's Game, and really don't have much interest in tween entertainment, so probably never will)
So it is essentially the same storyline as Black Mirror's Men Against Fire. (I've never seen or read Ender's Game, and really don't have much interest in tween entertainment, so probably never will)
At a climate change gathering utter "Each year the polar ice retreats." If someone in the room responds "Bi-lal kaifa", you've found a Dune fan. If the respondee is a woman, ask her if she'd like some spice coffee.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
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I wouldn't call the first book tween entertainment. The book covers some fairly heavy philosophical issues prior to the revelation of the invading race trying to live in peace. In the book, the young age for the children is 5 years old, while the movie is around 13 years old. The change was likely done because mass audiences wouldn't want to watch young children try to handle such material, and it would have to be considered ethically abhorrent to modern people.
I wouldn't call the first book tween entertainment. The book covers some fairly heavy philosophical issues prior to the revelation of the invading race trying to live in peace. In the book, the young age for the children is 5 years old, while the movie is around 13 years old. The change was likely done because mass audiences wouldn't want to watch young children try to handle such material, and it would have to be considered ethically abhorrent to modern people.
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