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MOVIES: New Ideas Welcome!

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I disagree that Rogue One is better than Episode 7. That being said I liked it a lot.

5, 4, 7, 3.5, 6, 3, 2, 1 is my current order.

I had almost zero issues with the film. The first 10 minutes were a little confusing but I caught up and enjoyed it all the way through. I also disagree with not wanting more films. It's very very difficult to establish "universes" like this and wanting more just seems natural. Especially with how many hours TV can milk out of one television series. I see nothing wrong or negative about movies trying to use a similar model.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Sorry, I like Empire a little better than New Hope. Just a little.
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Oh, they are definitely first and second. I accept your order as an honest difference in opinion. There are people who try to tell me 4 is not even a good movie. They try, but they do not often get to the end of their sentence alive.

I have still never seen 2 or 3. 1 left a deep scar.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
I disagree that Rogue One is better than Episode 7. That being said I liked it a lot.

5, 4, 7, 3.5, 6, 3, 2, 1 is my current order.

I had almost zero issues with the film. The first 10 minutes were a little confusing but I caught up and enjoyed it all the way through. I also disagree with not wanting more films. It's very very difficult to establish "universes" like this and wanting more just seems natural. Especially with how many hours TV can milk out of one television series. I see nothing wrong or negative about movies trying to use a similar model.
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I'd probably go

5, 4, R1, 7, 6* , 3+, 2, 1
+I've only seen 3 once, when it was in the theaters, so I don't remember it that well, but it is hard for me to imagine it was worse than 1 or 2.
*I might have put the original 6 ahead of 7, but the new Jabba music sequence and celebration crap ruined it. 6 gets some bonus points for being the first movie I remember seeing in a theater.


there were just some things in FA that puts it below R1 for me. I though the CGI monsters in Han's cargo ship were stupid, "there has to be a way to blow it up" plot point, too many in-jokes and nods to other stories in the franchise, too many convenient things happened (like Han and Chewy finding the Falcon, or a chasm opening up between Rey and Ren so she can't finish him off), why the **** does the remnant of the Empire go ahead and put all of their eggs in one basket with another stupid super weapon when that didn't work out so well two different times before. I'm nerding out too much here, but the Death Star had to travel through hyperspace to reach the system of the planet it is targeting. Apparently Star Killer Base is able to shoot something light years away (and despite the fact that it's weapon appears to travel slower than light, it doesn't take years for it to reach the target).
 
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BassAle said:
I'd probably go

5, 4, R1, 7, 6* , 3+, 2, 1
+I've only seen 3 once, when it was in the theaters, so I don't remember it that well, but it is hard for me to imagine it was worse than 1 or 2.
*I might have put the original 6 ahead of 7, but the new Jabba music sequence and celebration crap ruined it. 6 gets some bonus points for being the first movie I remember seeing in a theater.


there were just some things in FA that puts it below R1 for me. I though the CGI monsters in Han's cargo ship were stupid, "there has to be a way to blow it up" plot point, too many in-jokes and nods to other stories in the franchise, too many convenient things happened (like Han and Chewy finding the Falcon, or a chasm opening up between Rey and Ren so she can't finish him off), why the **** does the remnant of the Empire go ahead and put all of their eggs in one basket with another stupid super weapon when that didn't work out so well two different times before. I'm nerding out too much here, but the Death Star had to travel through hyperspace to reach the system of the planet it is targeting. Apparently Star Killer Base is able to shoot something light years away (and despite the fact that it's weapon appears to travel slower than light, it doesn't take years for it to reach the target).
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Three things make FA for me. Han's death. The fight in the woods. The ending with Luke. Those three scenes are all better than anything I saw in Rogue One. So, it goes above it in the list.
 
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While stuck on my night shifts with the newborn, I've been rewatching the Harry Potter movies.

3 remains the best of the bunch by far, and the ironic thing is its the only one that doesn't have any incarnation of Voldemort in it.

My rankings of them: 3, 6, 7.2, 5, 7.1, 4, 2, 1.

Can't remember how I'd rank the books by comparison, though 6 would probably jump to the top and 5 would fall way down (it's the Harry Potter is a whiny little biatch novel).
 
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unofan said:
While stuck on my night shifts with the newborn, I've been rewatching the Harry Potter movies.

3 remains the best of the bunch by far, and the ironic thing is its the only one that doesn't have any incarnation of Voldemort in it.

My rankings of them: 3, 6, 7.2, 5, 7.1, 4, 2, 1.

Can't remember how I'd rank the books by comparison, though 6 would probably jump to the top and 5 would fall way down (it's the Harry Potter is a whiny little biatch novel).
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List of ones I've seen: 1.

No argument which one is the best, anyway.
 
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Saw Rogue One last night. I really enjoyed it, especially the last 20 minutes and one scene in particular stole the show and helps establish the mythos behind a certain character.

I'll see it again soon. I think it bears repeated viewings because there was an awful lot to follow.

That said, the emotional connection to Rey, Finn, Poe and Kylo were much more immediate and I think in 2 months time fans will be going crazy for the first glimpse of episode viii.
 
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My yin and yang for Johnny Depp.

He paints himself (imho) as someone that's different from the rest of Hollywood, yet is now set to release POTC #5?

He's great at playing characters, but I really enjoy him best when he plays it closer to "straight".

He can annoy me to no end with some of his portrayals, but I found him fascinating in Black Mass (watching it now).
 
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Slap Shot said:
My yin and yang for Johnny Depp.

He paints himself (imho) as someone that's different from the rest of Hollywood, yet is now set to release POTC #5?

He's great at playing characters, but I really enjoy him best when he plays it closer to "straight".

He can annoy me to no end with some of his portrayals, but I found him fascinating in Black Mass (watching it now).
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There's an old rule among actors - you never quit a successful series until it finally fizzles and dies.

Every A-list actor has to pay the bills - the LA estate in Malibu, the country "house" in Provence, the ski "chalet" in Telluride, etc.

It's a wonder how they cope. :rolleyes: ;)
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
There's an old rule among actors - you never quit a successful series until it finally fizzles and dies.

Every A-list actor has to pay the bills - the LA estate in Malibu, the country "house" in Provence, the ski "chalet" in Telluride, etc.

It's a wonder how they cope. :rolleyes: ;)
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Don't forget the divorce every 5 years (and/or the cost of prenup preparation, negotiation, and subsequent litigation).
 
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Speaking of which Depp is currently in the middle of one and apparently refusing to pay out, although such stories bore me so I've never read one to get any of the details.
 
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Slap Shot said:
My yin and yang for Johnny Depp.

He paints himself (imho) as someone that's different from the rest of Hollywood, yet is now set to release POTC #5?

He's great at playing characters, but I really enjoy him best when he plays it closer to "straight".

He can annoy me to no end with some of his portrayals, but I found him fascinating in Black Mass (watching it now).
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Depp was good in Ninth Gate. That was in 1999. I haven't liked him in anything since. I think he had potential and it went to hell for whatever reason. c.f. Nicholson and Pacino.

But in general actors pass through good and bad periods, like painters. There has rarely been an actor who was uniformally good throughout his career.
 
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Kepler said:
Depp was good in Ninth Gate. That was in 1999. I haven't liked him in anything since. I think he had potential and it went to hell for whatever reason. c.f. Nicholson and Pacino.

But in general actors pass through good and bad periods, like painters. There has rarely been an actor who was uniformally good throughout his career.
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He was good in Ninth Gate but it's a horrible film.

Of the past 20 years I'd give him a thumbs up for Finding Neverland, Blow, Fear and Loathing, Donnie Brasco, and Black Mass. Before that Gilbert Grape, Edward Scissorhands and Ed Wood.
 
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He was good in Ninth Gate but it's a horrible film.

Of the past 20 years I'd give him a thumbs up for Finding Neverland, Blow, Fear and Loathing, Donnie Brasco, and Black Mass. Before that Gilbert Grape, Edward Scissorhands and Ed Wood.
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I actually thought he was fine as Dillinger in Public Enemies, although the film itself was fairly dull.
 
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Kepler said:
Depp was good in Ninth Gate. That was in 1999. I haven't liked him in anything since. I think he had potential and it went to hell for whatever reason. c.f. Nicholson and Pacino.

But in general actors pass through good and bad periods, like painters. There has rarely been an actor who was uniformally good throughout his career.
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I would say that Depp puts out good work for whatever role he takes, but he tends to choose clunker movies more often than not these days, or some movies that are just to pay the bills. That said, I've not seen all of his work for the past 5 years or so, which means in shows like The Lone Ranger he might have really put out a lousy effort, but it's unlikely I'll ever know.
 
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