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Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

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Brenthoven said:
Taking Lives:

Angie Jolie plays an FBI profiler who helps out Canadian cops try to find a serial killer; only has one witness. To believe him or not? It was ok. A couple red herrings tossed into some twists and turns, but the ending was rather predictable. Worth it if you have some time to kill.
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walked past a restaurant here named "cereal killer cafe". guessed it was breakfast... didn't go look. (a-scared to)
 
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War For The Planet of the Apes was awesome...that is all :)
 
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Hadn't seen Starship Troopers in a long time. It's so awesome; I can't believe how they suckered the studios, the money, and everybody else. How could they have seen the rushes and not realized what it was until it was too late?

It's also the best parody of big budget movies in the 80s ever made, and possibly the most biting satire of The Empire ever made.

Lots grosser now of course that we're a hundred times worse.
 
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Love Starship Troopers!


Caught the start of Dazed and Confused and got sucked in. Haven't seen it since it came out and don't remember liking it all that much.

LOVED it tonight.

And it's really about nothing.
 
Kepler said:
Hadn't seen Starship Troopers in a long time. It's so awesome; I can't believe how they suckered the studios, the money, and everybody else. How could they have seen the rushes and not realized what it was until it was too late?

It's also the best parody of big budget movies in the 80s ever made, and possibly the most biting satire of The Empire ever made.

Lots grosser now of course that we're a hundred times worse.
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Read the book? The only thing the movie had in common with the book was the title.
 
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Starship Troopers is incredible. I'm so happy to find others that agree. Most of my peers give me a stink eye. So good.
 
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Read the book? The only thing the movie had in common with the book was the title.
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The movie was lampooning propaganda movies from back in the day, hyper violent to drive home the cost of a nation/govt/people obsessed with warring ways, and they did it with bad acting all the to the end. Then it spoofed action movies from the 80s. If you weren't ready for some actually smart spoofing, the whole thing was going to fall flat.
 
St. Clown said:
The movie was lampooning propaganda movies from back in the day, hyper violent to drive home the cost of a nation/govt/people obsessed with warring ways, and they did it with bad acting all the to the end. Then it spoofed action movies from the 80s. If you weren't ready for some actually smart spoofing, the whole thing was going to fall flat.
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It's a full on left-wing spoof of right-wing politics with a title from a right-wing beat off material book.

That said, it's *ing hilarious. "Medic!"
 
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joecct said:
Read the book? The only thing the movie had in common with the book was the title.
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I have. The book, like much of Heinlein, is fascist tripe. The only connection between the book and the movie is the latter is savagely mocking the former and the type of reader who loved it.

The Forever War is a much more intellectual parody of the same tendencies in Heinlein but it's less accessible.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
It's a full on left-wing spoof of right-wing politics with a title from a right-wing beat off material book.

That said, it's *ing hilarious. "Medic!"
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It's perfect because they play it straight. Even the narrative "romance" is like some hyper-idealized Nazi fantasy crossed with an Orange County well-scrubbed teen flick.

An ironic masterpiece; it never breaks character once. "It's afraid!" (outburst of cheering)

Verhoeven must have been hilarious. Supposedly the cast objected to the naked shower scene and gave him an ultimatum that they'd only do it if he shot it naked. He wanted the scene, so he did.

I still have no idea how he snuck it past both Disney (Touchstone) and Sony (TriStar). "Would you like to know more?"
 
joecct said:
Read the book? The only thing the movie had in common with the book was the title.
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As others have said, the movie satirizes the book and old war propaganda reels. On that front, it's amazing. The bad acting fits that narrative, too.
 
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Having said that, has anyone watched any of the sequels? I've been assuming they aren't in on the joke of the original and are your standard horrific b-rated straight to DVD fare.

If they're more than that, I'm open to actually watching them.
 
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unofan said:
Having said that, has anyone watched any of the sequels? I'm assuming they aren't in on the joke of the original and are your standard horrific 'b's rated straight to DVD fare.
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I've never gone near them.

Supposedly a remake is also in Production Hell which is going to be the book as it was written to "restore the honor" of the original, but I don't think it's on anybody's priority list other than the type of people who backed those terrible Rand movies or those inane Left Behind movies.

We don't really need that now, though. American society has become as jaded, vicious and uncaring as Heinlein wanted.
 
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Kepler said:
An ironic masterpiece; it never breaks character once. "It's afraid!" (outburst of cheering)
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I've always felt that it breaks character at the very end - last 5-10 minutes.

When I first saw it, I assumed that they thought they were making a legit sci-fi film and then realized what they had and changed the tone of the last bit to say, "Hey, we were joking all along."


Maybe that wasn't their intention, but there is a change in mood during that last bit.

A wink, of sorts.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
I've always felt that it breaks character at the very end - last 5-10 minutes.

When I first saw it, I assumed that they thought they were making a legit sci-fi film and then realized what they had and changed the tone of the last bit to say, "Hey, we were joking all along."


Maybe that wasn't their intention, but there is a change in mood during that last bit.

A wink, of sorts.
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The only time I thought that was the "do your part" segment with the children all gleefully stamping on the bugs. They could have dimmed that down a lot.

For instance, the brilliance of noting that humans were probably the original aggressor and then simply slapping it away with a right wing "kill 'em all!!!" snarl was pitch perfect. Or the aforementioned mind meld where the brain bug is feeling not malice but fear and the crazed, bloodthirsty response, the teacher's off-handed dismissal of democracy and the location of political legitimacy in the will of the people, or the casual viciousness of the regime's penalty system. Those were perfect images of the fascist mindset. They could be from the White House or the RNC convention these days.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
Love Starship Troopers!


Caught the start of Dazed and Confused and got sucked in. Haven't seen it since it came out and don't remember liking it all that much.

LOVED it tonight.

And it's really about nothing.
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Actually, it's about the 70's.

Anyone who didn't live through them, who wasn't of that age then, might ask, were the 70's really like that? As someone who was Mitch's age when this film takes place, all I can say is, absolutely. My high school years were so much like that, it's incredible. It's like Linklater went to my high school.
 
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rufus said:
Actually, it's about the 70's.

Anyone who didn't live through them, who wasn't of that age then, might ask, were the 70's really like that? As someone who was Mitch's age when this film takes place, all I can say is, absolutely. My high school years were so much like that, it's incredible. It's like Linklater went to my high school.
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I meant there's not much of a plot line.

I'm a bit younger, but I remember the 70s quite well.
 
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