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Movies 51 - Rise of the Frozen Joker: Chapter II: Dark Fate

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BTW the Joker sequel rumors are being debunked. Sounds like THR jumped the gun. All the Trades are fighting each other over it. Very weird...
 
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I would still bet on it happening. Phoenix said he would be up for it (with a good script) and the movie made a billion dollars.
 
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Handyman said:
I would still bet on it happening. Phoenix said he would be up for it (with a good script) and the movie made a billion dollars.
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Given that it would be a guaranteed goldmine I would wish they would hire somebody utterly brilliant to do the direction and writing. If you're going to make a trillion dollars no matter what you do, why not produce a work of art that people will respect in 50 years? Find a 32-year old contemporary equivalent of this guy and don't interfere.
 
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Given that it would be a guaranteed goldmine I would wish they would hire somebody utterly insane to do the writing. If you're going to make a trillion dollars no matter what you do, why not produce a work of art that people will respect in 50 years?
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Alan Moore. Back up about 50 brinks trucks to his house
 
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Alan Moore. Back up about 50 brinks trucks to his house
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Moore's time is over. Find me the person who right now is thinking up stuff in her basement that will be the next Moore-like leap forward in the genre.
 
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Alan Moore. Back up about 50 brinks trucks to his house
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I would sooner shoot myself in the dick. Alan Moore wasn't God when he was relevant now he is a D-bag narcissist who likes to do fairy tale porn. Pass.

I know you hate any director people enjoy Kep but most think Phillips did quite well with this film. That doesn't mean a sequel will be good but Phoenix won't do it if he thinks the story sucks. I doubt this next one will be another Scorsese pastiche.
 
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Handyman said:
I would sooner shoot myself in the dick. Alan Moore wasn't God when he was relevant now he is a D-bag narcissist who likes to do fairy tale porn. Pass.

I know you hate any director people enjoy Kep but most think Phillips did quite well with this film. That doesn't mean a sequel will be good but Phoenix won't do it if he thinks the story sucks. I doubt this next one will be another Scorsese pastiche.
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I'd like to get Jonathan Nolan away from his less (albeit still) talented brother. He has a good mind and I think he could deliver a movie that was perverse without it being for its own sake (the pitfall of almost every Joker rendition). He also puts the ideas first and the glam second, which is what every truly great director since Welles has done.

But even the Nolans are old snooze now. I'd love to find some heroin addict in their late 20s / early 30s who doesn't have a single f-ck to give about the hamfisted cliches of the genre and have them remake it. Like I said this is as close as there will be to a "safe" investment for the Hollywood dollar morons so let's aim high for the first time since, oh, 1958.
 
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Handyman said:
I would sooner shoot myself in the dick. Alan Moore wasn't God when he was relevant
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Moore is a horrible human being but in his day he was as close to God as comics will ever get. The dude took a box of tinkertoys and turned them into fine china. He's the Babe Ruth of the genre. He made it adult, and by adult I don't mean gritty and mean and vicious like Miller I mean worthy of the intellect of someone over the age of nine.
 
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edit: Not going to indulge...we can resume this another time in another thread.
 
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Kepler said:
I'd like to get Jonathan Nolan away from his less (albeit still) talented brother. He has a good mind and I think he could deliver a movie that was perverse without it being for its own sake (the pitfall of almost every Joker rendition). He also puts the ideas first and the glam second, which is what every truly great director since Welles has done.

But even the Nolans are old snooze now. I'd love to find some heroin addict in their late 20s / early 30s who doesn't have a single f-ck to give about the hamfisted cliches of the genre and have them remake it. Like I said this is as close as there will be to a "safe" investment for the Hollywood dollar morons so let's aim high for the first time since, oh, 1958.
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Vertigo...?
 
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Vice.

Probably the worst movie to watch during this time of political chaos. About Cheney. Great cast. Good acting. Honestly, it didn't know whether to be a satire or a true scathing bio-pic. The styles clashed with one another. While entertaining to see, and worth seeing, I wasn't all on board because of it. If they chose one style over the other, I have no doubt I'd be lauding this movie to no end. Each style, separately, would have been very excellent, given how they did it. Mashed together? Eh, I guess. If that's how they wanted it.
 
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The Rube said:
Vice.

Probably the worst movie to watch during this time of political chaos. About Cheney. Great cast. Good acting. Honestly, it didn't know whether to be a satire or a true scathing bio-pic. The styles clashed with one another. While entertaining to see, and worth seeing, I wasn't all on board because of it. If they chose one style over the other, I have no doubt I'd be lauding this movie to no end. Each style, separately, would have been very excellent, given how they did it. Mashed together? Eh, I guess. If that's how they wanted it.
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It worked with Moby Dick. ;)
 
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