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Movie Thread: New, Rental, Streaming
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Most of my friends growing up had no clue behind the social...depths/etc behind words like "fag" and "queer." It was just a random insult meaning you were lesser than us. It was pure unintentional ignorance.
This. And frankly, the S The Q thing...it was out of ignorance. We used it because that's the name we learned, and it rhymed. Nothing more. And honestly, if this went back to the 1900s (WAG), it wouldn't be offensive, as "strange/odd" is a definition of the word "queer."
Most of my friends growing up had no clue behind the social...depths/etc behind words like "fag" and "queer." It was just a random insult meaning you were lesser than us. It was pure unintentional ignorance.
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Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 1.
I'm guessing they could have easily made one movie (although a longer one) out of the two parts (have not read the books). Cut a couple minutes here, a couple minutes there....
It was okay. Not as good as the previous ones, but I liked it. Thankfully the non-main characters are evolving a little: Effi and Sasquatch (whatever Woody Harrelson's character's name is).
Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 1.
I'm guessing they could have easily made one movie (although a longer one) out of the two parts (have not read the books). Cut a couple minutes here, a couple minutes there....
It was okay. Not as good as the previous ones, but I liked it. Thankfully the non-main characters are evolving a little: Effi and Sasquatch (whatever Woody Harrelson's character's name is).
Kepler
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S the Q goes back a long, long way. IINM Jean Shepherd talked about playing it with Flick, Schwartz, et al. growing up in the 1930s. Q just designated an awkward, outcast boy (like "geek" used to before its tech associations). Schoolboys have taunted each other about being Fs since time began, but I think that's non-sexual and just another way of calling somebody "lame." There's latent homophobia mixed in there, but it was no worse than saying "you throw like a girl."
I wonder whether kids have actually changed their words. Slurs must come and go, like any slang.
S the Q goes back a long, long way. IINM Jean Shepherd talked about playing it with Flick, Schwartz, et al. growing up in the 1930s. Q just designated an awkward, outcast boy (like "geek" used to before its tech associations). Schoolboys have taunted each other about being Fs since time began, but I think that's non-sexual and just another way of calling somebody "lame." There's latent homophobia mixed in there, but it was no worse than saying "you throw like a girl."
I wonder whether kids have actually changed their words. Slurs must come and go, like any slang.
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They are surprisingly durable over generations of time as you point out.
We recently had a talk about this. It seems when the local schools cracked down on "******", 3 or 4 replacements popped up like "You're so Downs" and "Mouthbreather" to signify "******" without having to be so awful as to say it directly (while no doubt the original insult becomes even more attractive to use out of earshot). That's kids. (The kids also use a lot of words I have no understanding of, with strange sing-song intonations, so I ignore them and pretend everything's fine)
It's interesting that "lame" managed to work it's way into polite company (a movie or baseball team can be lame without any real offense to those with special needs) while "handicapped" is going the other way. These choices seem to be arbitrary.
They are surprisingly durable over generations of time as you point out.
We recently had a talk about this. It seems when the local schools cracked down on "******", 3 or 4 replacements popped up like "You're so Downs" and "Mouthbreather" to signify "******" without having to be so awful as to say it directly (while no doubt the original insult becomes even more attractive to use out of earshot). That's kids. (The kids also use a lot of words I have no understanding of, with strange sing-song intonations, so I ignore them and pretend everything's fine)
It's interesting that "lame" managed to work it's way into polite company (a movie or baseball team can be lame without any real offense to those with special needs) while "handicapped" is going the other way. These choices seem to be arbitrary.
Kepler
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Some words migrate the other way. "Moron" started life as a medical term-of-art, then was deprecated I suppose because of its adoption as an offensive term socially. "Retardation" AFAIK followed the same path.
Some words migrate the other way. "Moron" started life as a medical term-of-art, then was deprecated I suppose because of its adoption as an offensive term socially. "Retardation" AFAIK followed the same path.
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Most of the similar words (roots) were around forever and swung both ways at different times, from simple insult to diagnosis.
Here's one note on "idiot" from Wiki: "In the early 1900s, Dr. Henry H. Goddard proposed a classification system for intellectual disability based on the Binet-Simon concept of mental age. Individuals with the lowest mental age level (less than three years) were identified as idiots; imbeciles had a mental age of three to seven years, and morons had a mental age of seven to ten years.[8] The term "idiot" was used to refer to people having an IQ below 30."
Likewise, I assume "Moron" was an insult in Latin or something centuries ago, then was appropriated as a clinical term by Goddard.
Most of the similar words (roots) were around forever and swung both ways at different times, from simple insult to diagnosis.
Here's one note on "idiot" from Wiki: "In the early 1900s, Dr. Henry H. Goddard proposed a classification system for intellectual disability based on the Binet-Simon concept of mental age. Individuals with the lowest mental age level (less than three years) were identified as idiots; imbeciles had a mental age of three to seven years, and morons had a mental age of seven to ten years.[8] The term "idiot" was used to refer to people having an IQ below 30."
Likewise, I assume "Moron" was an insult in Latin or something centuries ago, then was appropriated as a clinical term by Goddard.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
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Only 8 months away... only 8 months away...
Only 8 months away... only 8 months away...
ExileOnDaytonStreet
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You guys are actually building up expectations? I have a bad feeling about this...
You guys are actually building up expectations? I have a bad feeling about this...
ScoobyDoo
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If Lucas isn't involved I'm very optimistic. For the original 6 I will only watch part 4 and 5 right now. I'm hoping to get a good Star Wars movie out of this reboot.
If Lucas isn't involved I'm very optimistic. For the original 6 I will only watch part 4 and 5 right now. I'm hoping to get a good Star Wars movie out of this reboot.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
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1 great movie, 1 good movie, 1 poor movie, and 6 terrible movies.
If Lucas had died in December 1980 he'd be remembered as somebody interesting. A good alt history could be written about Lucas blundering into the path of Lennon's bullet. Everybody would have been better off. Particularly Lucas.
1 great movie, 1 good movie, 1 poor movie, and 6 terrible movies.
If Lucas had died in December 1980 he'd be remembered as somebody interesting. A good alt history could be written about Lucas blundering into the path of Lennon's bullet. Everybody would have been better off. Particularly Lucas.
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You've already seen the new trilogy?
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I'm cautiously optimistic. Say what you will about Disney various missteps in the past, but they've proven with Marvel that come hell or high water they will find a way to make good movies from an existing franchise, so I'm hoping they work the same magic with Star Wars. They're getting my money anyways, so I might as well enjoy it.
Oh and people who wine about RotJ because of Ewoks can get bent.
I'm cautiously optimistic. Say what you will about Disney various missteps in the past, but they've proven with Marvel that come hell or high water they will find a way to make good movies from an existing franchise, so I'm hoping they work the same magic with Star Wars. They're getting my money anyways, so I might as well enjoy it.
Oh and people who wine about RotJ because of Ewoks can get bent.
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I think most of the complaining comes from the fact that Empire was SO FRIGGING GOOD, and the drop off was that noticeable. I didn't MIND the Ewoks, but thought it was a little overdone.
I think most of the complaining comes from the fact that Empire was SO FRIGGING GOOD, and the drop off was that noticeable. I didn't MIND the Ewoks, but thought it was a little overdone.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
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In the teaser, they show Vader's mask. Luke also states that, "...my father has it, I have it, my sister has it. You have it." He's talking about his father as in present tense. Either they really tried to do a strong call back to RotJ, or Vader's ghost will make itself seen during the movie. I'm really hoping the line was delivered for the call back purpose.
In the teaser, they show Vader's mask. Luke also states that, "...my father has it, I have it, my sister has it. You have it." He's talking about his father as in present tense. Either they really tried to do a strong call back to RotJ, or Vader's ghost will make itself seen during the movie. I'm really hoping the line was delivered for the call back purpose.
French Rage
NICKERSON HAS [CENSORED]
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Yeah it seems similar to this one: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086190/quotes?item=qt0447296 So they might have just paraphrased it and cheated a little.
Yeah it seems similar to this one: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086190/quotes?item=qt0447296 So they might have just paraphrased it and cheated a little.
Kepler
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