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MLB 2022: Playing Ball, But Is Anyone Still Watching?

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MissThundercat said:
14th straight win for Seattle.

​​​​​​I don't want to believe. Because I will get hurt again.
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I am curious as to how people who are not from a particular area come to root for pro teams from that area. Or am I incorrect in my assumption that you are Michigan born and raised? If you are a life-long Michigander, what's your story with Seattle??
 
I hate that stupid box. The sooner it dies the better; it is part of the infantilization of sports coverage.

Watch an early 70s game broadcast sometime. It's wonderful.
 
Kepler said:
I hate that stupid box. The sooner it dies the better; it is part of the infantilization of sports coverage.

Watch an early 70s game broadcast sometime. It's wonderful.
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The lack of a score bug and ball/strike count is annoying as fuck. Even old mid '90s broadcasts are terrible upon repeat viewing.

The stike zone overlay IS trash though.
 
Can we just go back to the old days where the grounds crew would intentionally mis-mark the chalk strike zone to get more calls in their favor?

*Glares at the late '90s Atlanta Braves*
 
aparch said:
The lack of a score bug and ball/strike count is annoying as fuck. Even old mid '90s broadcasts are terrible upon repeat viewing.

The stike zone overlay IS trash though.
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It’s interesting how recent the permanent overlay actually is. During lockdown when only classic games were on tv you got to see a lot of different presentation styles. I believe it wasn’t until 1998 CBS had one for college basketball for the entire game. That’s the main one I can remember, but I’m sure most other stations were right around that time for other sports as well.

The tech was there for a long time obviously, because they would flash it on the screen and be able to embed the clock. In fact in CBS’ case I think it was the exact same graphic.

Nowadays there’s almost too much info on the screen, especially for football. The scorebug will have all the info, then there will be like three graphics superimposed on the field with the same down/distance, play clock, and especially NBC likes to shade the field between the line of scrimmage and first down.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
It’s interesting how recent the permanent overlay actually is. During lockdown when only classic games were on tv you got to see a lot of different presentation styles. I believe it wasn’t until 1998 CBS had one for college basketball for the entire game. That’s the main one I can remember, but I’m sure most other stations were right around that time for other sports as well.

The tech was there for a long time obviously, because they would flash it on the screen and be able to embed the clock. In fact in CBS’ case I think it was the exact same graphic.

Nowadays there’s almost too much info on the screen, especially for football. The scorebug will have all the info, then there will be like three graphics superimposed on the field with the same down/distance, play clock, and especially NBC likes to shade the field between the line of scrimmage and first down.
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The score bug was introduced as part of Sky’s broadcasting of the Premier League in 1992. ABC and ESPN introduced to the US as part their coverage for the 1994 World Cup (they needed the ad space). FOX started using it on NFL games when their rights started later that year.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
It’s interesting how recent the permanent overlay actually is. During lockdown when only classic games were on tv you got to see a lot of different presentation styles. I believe it wasn’t until 1998 CBS had one for college basketball for the entire game. That’s the main one I can remember, but I’m sure most other stations were right around that time for other sports as well.
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My understanding is that the networks were still in the old radio mentality that they wanted viewers to stay tuned long enough to see the run scored when they would update the graphic, or stay through the half inning when they showed it before/after commercials. They were worried that people would tune in, see the score, and change the channel if it wasn't favorable.

ESPN started using it on soccer broadcasts in 1994 and it gained mainstream success after FOX started using it for NFL games in 1995, and it exploded from there.
 
aparch said:
My understanding is that the networks were still in the old radio mentality that they wanted viewers to stay tuned long enough to see the run scored when they would update the graphic, or stay through the half inning when they showed it before/after commercials. They were worried that people would tune in, see the score, and change the channel if it wasn't favorable.

ESPN started using it on soccer broadcasts in 1994 and it gained mainstream success after FOX started using it for NFL games in 1995, and it exploded from there.
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I’m like you, I can’t even imagine watching a broadcast without a score overlay any more. Especially for sports like soccer or football or hockey.

I do agree that there is too many graphics sometimes. Anytime I have to see a Bally Sports broadcast I really want to vomit.
 
Jimjamesak said:
I’m like you, I can’t even imagine watching a broadcast without a score overlay any more. Especially for sports like soccer or football or hockey.

I do agree that there is too many graphics sometimes. Anytime I have to see a Bally Sports broadcast I really want to vomit.
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Bally’s is terrible. Fox’s is pretty bad too. They had the perfect one for baseball in their last iteration. Now it’s massive, has weird graphics for the bases, and the score can be hard to read with the logo directly behind it. Their basketball one was good too, but now it’s a giant bar across the entire screen.

NBC had that weird one they rolled out for the final two months of their hockey broadcasts that was definitely a baseball scorebug, but they didn’t go with that for their RSNs or Peacock baseball broadcast.

Best ones today are probably Fox for soccer (except for CONMEBOL with the weird font), football for CBS, Fox, and NBC, and TBS for basketball/hockey.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
Umps use the chalk as a frame of reference. If it catches any chalk it’s clearly a ball. So make the batters box a little farther from the plate and you’ll get a few more calls on the corner.
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But wouldn't that affect both teams equally? Unless the batters on one team were far more weighted as lefties, for example.
 
Batters box is already 6 inches off the plate, and that inside line gets erased by the 2nd inning. I doubt it's very useful to alter them.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
But wouldn't that affect both teams equally? Unless the batters on one team were far more weighted as lefties, for example.
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https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2000-jun-27-sp-45385-story.html

The Atlanta Braves banned four TBS announcers from the team’s chartered flights after the cable channel revealed that the catcher’s box was altered at Turner Field, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported in Tuesday’s editions.
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During the first inning of Saturday night’s game against the Milwaukee Brewers, TBS aired video showing the catcher’s box was four to five inches smaller than the previous night. The footage was shown after a rare balk call Friday against Atlanta catcher Fernando Lunar for lining up with his right foot outside the box.

Opposing teams have long claimed that Atlanta pitchers are given the benefit of an extra-wide strike zone, particularly on the outside corners. Catchers who set up wide of the plate can increase the chances of an outside pitch being called a strike.
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Albert Pujols somehow makes it to the second round of the derby. Put up a weak 13, but Schwarber never got into a groove and it went to a swing off where Pujols then ripped off seven in a minute.

ESPN is showing the speed and launch angle of each hit. Seems like anything 100mph+ and 20 degrees or more gets out, so once you get the pattern down you can tell if it's going to be a home run or not well before it lands. I feel like George Costanza.
 
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