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MLB 2019: Every Year at Playoff Time, The Dodgers Find A Way to Choke.

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Twitch Boy said:
Mike Fiers and Chris Bassit of Oakland combine for a non-perfect non-no-hitter 27 up/27 down game (double play in the first and picked off a baserunner in the third.)

How many times has there been a non-perfect 27 up/27 down game?
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Game 6 of the 2016 NLCS. Hendricks and Chapman induced 3 double plays and had a pickoff.
 
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Nelson Cruz hits his 40th of the season, 400th of his career. Only the third Minnesota Twin to hit 40, behind Killebrew and Dozier.
 
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Kepler said:
IIRC Ruth started a game, walked the first hitter, argued and got ejected. The reliever came in, picked off the runner before throwing a pitch, then put 26 straight down. MLB listed it as a perfect game for decades until sanity finally reigned and it was downgraded.

But that would be one.

Here it is: Ernie Shore.

Note time of game: 1:40
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But I might argue it should be considered a no-hitter. Seriously.
 
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Kepler said:
Of course it's a no hitter. It's just not a perfect game.
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I guess I was wondering if Shore did indeed get credited for a no-hitter after the perfect game was taken away. Because technically, he didn't start the game. It's like if you lose the game but pitch a no-hitter (which is of course possible and has happened), I don't believe that's considered a no-hitter anymore. Plus, if you give up your first hit in extra innings, that's no longer considered a no-hitter -- like that famous game by the Pittsburgh pitcher who had a perfect game in extra innings and then a no-hitter longer than that, and got credited for nothing, retroactively.
 
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Russell Jaslow said:
I guess I was wondering if Shore did indeed get credited for a no-hitter after the perfect game was taken away. Because technically, he didn't start the game. It's like if you lose the game but pitch a no-hitter (which is of course possible and has happened), I don't believe that's considered a no-hitter anymore. Plus, if you give up your first hit in extra innings, that's no longer considered a no-hitter -- like that famous game by the Pittsburgh pitcher who had a perfect game in extra innings and then a no-hitter longer than that, and got credited for nothing, retroactively.
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It's credited as a combined no hitter.

Harvey Haddix was actually credited with a perfect game for a long time until that was fixed, too.

I've never considered either of those corrections at all counter-intuitive. I remember reading them listed as perfect games in a guide when I was a kid and thinking, "that ain't right."
 
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Kepler said:
It's credited as a combined no hitter.
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OK

Harvey Haddix was actually credited with a perfect game for a long time until that was fixed, too.
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I know. They went through and changed a lot of old records pertaining to this when they decided to make these calls consistent over the years.

I've never considered either of those corrections at all counter-intuitive. I remember reading them listed as perfect games in a guide when I was a kid and thinking, "that ain't right."
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Not right for whom? :eek: Poor Haddix pitched one of the greatest games in baseball history, and got credited for nothing. Not even getting a win for crying out loud...
 
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Russell Jaslow said:
Not right for whom? :eek: Poor Haddix pitched one of the greatest games in baseball history, and got credited for nothing. Not even getting a win for crying out loud...
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A fact is a fact; it does not have an emotional element.

Haddix and Galarraga will be remembered long after they would have otherwise been forgotten because of their fates. The true value of the performance isn't the factual details, it's the great narrative and context of what they did -- it is the human truth, not the empirical minutia. We can't name every no hitter or even every perfect game but we will remember Haddix and Galarraga forever.

Never confuse law and justice. Records are facts. They are fun trivia but they are the map, not the territory. The actual human effort itself is what is worth remembering.
 
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Kep - 1 hour to go.

At 9:07 tonight we will pause and remember the 50th anniversary of the 1969 Mets clinching the NL East
 
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joecct said:
Kep - 1 hour to go.

At 9:07 tonight we will pause and remember the 50th anniversary of the 1969 Mets clinching the NL East
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Yeah right.

Like a baseball game would end by 9:07pm.
 
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Fun fact: night games at Shea back then would start at 8, however, this was the final home game of the regular season, "Fan Appreciation Day," so they started it at 7 so that more kids could come.

The Fan Appreciation gift was a keychain.
 
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The White Sox defeat Cleveland, clinching the AL Central for the Twins. They'll be offered up to the Yankees or Astros in October.
 
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state of hockey said:
The White Sox defeat Cleveland, clinching the AL Central for the Twins. They'll be offered up to the Yankees or Astros in October.
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The Yankees are pretty vulnerable right now. Still a lot of guys out, many of whom won't make it back. Starting pitching is still pretty soft. A lot will depend upon Severino and whether he can be dominant. Twins are playing well. I actually like their chances in that series, although I still bet on Houston to make the Series.
 
SJHovey said:
The Yankees are pretty vulnerable right now. Still a lot of guys out, many of whom won't make it back. Starting pitching is still pretty soft. A lot will depend upon Severino and whether he can be dominant. Twins are playing well. I actually like their chances in that series, although I still bet on Houston to make the Series.
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Its Yankees hitting vs Twins pitching thats the concern. Twins have shown that they cant stop the Yankees offense very often. No matter whos in the lineup.
 
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