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MLB 2013 - This Bud's for you!

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Scarlet said:
Wait.....the Red Sox won that game last night???
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It really annoys me when a manager feels the need to take a pitcher out when he hits the magic 100 pitch count. Hernandez was dealing and could've gone another frame. Same thing happened to Cole Hamels last night with the pen ruining a solid game by him.
 
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Scarlet said:
Wait.....the Red Sox won that game last night???
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Key play: Seattle has a lefty and a righty warming up. The manager comes out of the dugout and half lifts his left arm [he claims he was pointing to the bullpen to indicate he wanted to make a pitching change] then taps his right arm with his left hand. But the umpire rules that he signaled for the left handed reliever, so the manager is forced to use a reliever he didn't want to pitch to Victorino (switch hitter, but better right handed) who singles. Next batter is Pedroia, but Seattle can't bring in the righty now, because they wanted the lefty to pitch to Ortiz. Pedroia singles, and Ortiz strikes out.

Seattle's got a reasonable beef that they got screwed on a ball/strike call to Gomes also.

I'll try to remember this game next time I think the Red Sox are the only team who suffer from bizarre umpiring decisions and questionable ball/strike calls.

MountieBoyOz said:
It really annoys me when a manager feels the need to take a pitcher out when he hits the magic 100 pitch count. Hernandez was dealing and could've gone another frame. Same thing happened to Cole Hamels last night with the pen ruining a solid game by him.
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Don't know the Seattle situation or how they manage pitch count, but with Hernandez, I suspect it had more to do with a six run lead than with pitch count.
 
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MountieBoyOz said:
It really annoys me when a manager feels the need to take a pitcher out when he hits the magic 100 pitch count. Hernandez was dealing and could've gone another frame. Same thing happened to Cole Hamels last night with the pen ruining a solid game by him.
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Can't remember if it was the Braves game or Brewers game a few nights ago where this topic came up. The consensus was that the 100 number is made up because its a nice round number, but they wanted to see teams stretch that number out to 115 in the next few years. No reason to cap a pitcher at 100 when they still have gas in the tank.

I can't believe that saving a dozen pitches over a couple months is a benefit to playoff teams.

An interesting stat would be to see how the relief pitcher immediately following a 100 pitch pulled pitcher fares.
 
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aparch said:
Can't remember if it was the Braves game or Brewers game a few nights ago where this topic came up. The consensus was that the 100 number is made up because its a nice round number, but they wanted to see teams stretch that number out to 115 in the next few years. No reason to cap a pitcher at 100 when they still have gas in the tank.

I can't believe that saving a dozen pitches over a couple months is a benefit to playoff teams.
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If you're talking this particular instance, though, as I said in a previous post, I think that lifting King Felix had more to do with the six run lead than with a pitch count. Also, the Mariners are not a playoff team. Felix' health next year is far, far more important to the Mariners than improving on their 0.2% probability of making the playoffs this year. If you're talking about the general case, then I'd say it's more about hundreds of pitches a year and maybe thousands over several years that's more relevant than a few dozen over a few games. And yes, that doesn't address the point that the decision doesn't have to be robotic; for example, the pitcher could be pulled after 1xx pitches only if the game were in hand or out of reach. Of course, in this particular instance it seemed "in hand".

An interesting stat would be to see how the relief pitcher immediately following a 100 pitch pulled pitcher fares.
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Yes, it would be interesting. I'm guessing it's random, but the ones blown by the bullpen are much more memorable.
 
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I do find it interesting that Braun is getting off with a slap on the wrist and A-Rod is getting the lifetime ban. Little weird. Only one of these men have ever tested positive for a banned substance.
 
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LULZ...

As an umpire, I totally wish I could invoke this rule without stepping into a s*-storm... Totally badass...
 
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RaceBoarder said:
LULZ...

As an umpire, I totally wish I could invoke this rule without stepping into a s*-storm... Totally badass...
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A-Rod is apparently going to be suspended under the Commissioner's "Best interests of baseball" clause, not the drug testing clause. Out all of this year and 2014.
 
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Announcement at noon tomorrow. 14 players in total.

At least that's their story right now...
 
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Hammer said:
Announcement at noon tomorrow. 14 players in total.

At least that's their story right now...
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Noon EST, eh? HA!

MLB sure is dragging their feet with this... Wonder what the exact hold up is... A-Rod has said he isn't negotiating, so just drop the friggin hammer :mad:
 
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So the Yankees are hell bent on getting out from this A-Rod contract yet they have absolutely no problem inserting him into their lineup tonight and while he goes through an appeal. That is beyond laughable.
 
J.D. said:
So the Yankees are hell bent on getting out from this A-Rod contract yet they have absolutely no problem inserting him into their lineup tonight and while he goes through an appeal. That is beyond laughable.
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I thought they were putting him in the lineup to look like they aren't trying to get out of paying him while still trying to get out of paying him.
 
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Nelson Cruz' first game back would be the Rangers first playoff game.
 
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Looking at the list of players it seems like A-Rod was preaching the benefits to his organization.

The other players expected to be suspended, each for 50 games, are Rangers outfielder Nelson Cruz, Tigers shortstop Jhonny Peralta, Padres shortstop Everth Cabrera, Yankees catcher Francisco Cervelli, Mariners catcher Jesus Montero, Mets Minor League outfielder Cesar Puello, Yankees Minor League outfielder Fernando Martinez and free-agent relievers Fautino De Los Santos and Jordan Norberto. Additional reports surfaced on Monday indicating that Phillies lefty Antonio Bastardo, Mets infielder Jordany Valdespin and Astros reliever Sergio Escalona will also be suspended.
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