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MLB 2012, Part 1 - It's here

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state of hockey said:
Was it dumb to sit Strasburg? Sure. Did it make me want the Nationals to lose to the effing Cardinals? No. Does it make me want them to lose for twenty years? That's just silliness and I hope I never take sports as seriously as anyone who does. Ridiculous.
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But it must be admitted-it was a stupid thing. I have followed baseball for 60 years-did they ever sit Warren Spahn? Tom Seaver? Roger Clemens? Steve Carleton? Bob Gibson? I don't think pitching that many innings hurt any one of them. Sure there are some fellows that throwing a lot of innings hurt-but I suspect there was something seriously wrong with their delivery or something seriously wrong with their anatomy. I have been in medicine a long time-eveyone reacts differently to extensive physical workout. Some shoulders hold up, some do not. It was ludicrous for them to shut him down. There is no guarantee of any of the following-that he does not hurt his arm over the winter shoveling snow. That he does not develop an arthritic spur in his shoulder or elbow. That they ever again reach the NLCS during his career. He was being paid a fortune to pitch-let him do just that. Would it have changed anything? Perhaps not-you just cannot fight luck and last year STl had it going for them and perhaps they have it this year. But this business of pitch counts, and inning counts, etc-is a pile of horse manure. As a kid I saw a youngster pitch his first game for the Brooklyn Dodgers who I thought would just be the best-His name was Carl Spooner. Within a year or two he was done (arm trouble developed) but certainly not from too many innings. And i saw an incredible pitcher in Herb Score. His career ended with a line drive from Gil McDougal. You cannot plan these things-Washington just plain blew it. Just my 2¢:)
 
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Could they have handled it better? Maybe, but again, going into the season, they didn't know they were going to be this good. They probably thought they were still a year or two away. They were caught off guard. I have no problem with people who think the innings limit is stupid, but unfortunately that's what MLB has turned into these days. Hopefully more organizations will take the approach of Texas going forward. And while I personally don't believe in the way things are done right now, I will never have a problem with an organization doing what they think is best to protect a kid's future. It's neither stupid nor deserving of scorn/vitriol. Not having Strasburg didn't make the Nationals blow a 6-0 lead yesterday.
 
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J.D. said:
Could they have handled it better? Maybe, but again, going into the season, they didn't know they were going to be this good. They probably thought they were still a year or two away. They were caught off guard. I have no problem with people who think the innings limit is stupid, but unfortunately that's what MLB has turned into these days. Hopefully more organizations will take the approach of Texas going forward. And while I personally don't believe in the way things are done right now, I will never have a problem with an organization doing what they think is best to protect a kid's future. It's neither stupid nor deserving of scorn/vitriol. Not having Strasburg didn't make the Nationals blow a 6-0 lead yesterday.
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Very true-but i am sure glad I am not a Nats fan or season ticket holder. I would be just so much more upset right now.:(
 
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Just a couple thoughts-How much does the Yankee/Tiger series change if Verlander was able to pitch the first game? How much does the Giant/Cardinal series change with Cabrera allowed off the 50 game suspension list?
 
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If it goes 7, the Tigers would have Verlander making two starts where as if Sabathia makes more than one start, he'd be making one of them on short rest. Considering the Yankees had a better record than Detroit and both ALDS' went the distance, I wouldn't be too happy about that if I were a Yankees fan. Seems like messed up scheduling to me.

I thought the Giants could have activated Cabrera for the NLDS and chose not to?
 
DrDemento said:
Just a couple thoughts-How much does the Yankee/Tiger series change if Verlander was able to pitch the first game? How much does the Giant/Cardinal series change with Cabrera allowed off the 50 game suspension list?
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I don't think Verlander pitching game one changes anything. It's Tigers in five, maybe six.
 
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J.D. said:
If it goes 7, the Tigers would have Verlander making two starts where as if Sabathia makes more than one start, he'd be making one of them on short rest. Considering the Yankees had a better record than Detroit and both ALDS' went the distance, I wouldn't be too happy about that if I were a Yankees fan. Seems like messed up scheduling to me.

I thought the Giants could have activated Cabrera for the NLDS and chose not to?
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JD-Cabrera I think is now elligible for the Cardinal series. Personally I think it makes a difference but it could be either a good difference or a bad one (perhaps a disruption). Beside if the Cardinals keep on this roll of winning every game with 2 strikes on them in the ninth-nothing will matter. The past 2 years it is like they stepped in something. It seems they are out of every series-no chance to win-down to their last out-perhaps their last strike-and bingo. I cannot recall a good luck streak like that ever in any sport.
 
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Doesn't have anything to do with the fat turd on the mound throwing 92 MPH grapefruit over the heart of the plate. Nope. Nothing at all...
 
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Apparently you guys missed the other miraculous performance from the ancient one against Baltimore.

Perhaps him being on something (hypothetically) is the reason he can hit a ball 320 at this stage of his career. And yes, obviously has something to do with Valverde.
 
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I saw those, too, but Valverde is throwing enough meatballs to keep Olive Garden in business for the next decade.
 
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J.D. said:
Apparently you guys missed the other miraculous performance from the ancient one against Baltimore.

Perhaps him being on something (hypothetically) is the reason he can hit a ball 320 at this stage of his career. And yes, obviously has something to do with Valverde.
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And all 3 of the home runs he has hit in big spots have been balls over the middle of the plate. Good hitters make pitchers pay for those. Ibanez is a good hitter. :rolleyes:
 
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It really would have been awesome if Girardi had sent A-Rod out to help Jeter off the field.
 
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